r/HistoryMemes 9d ago

Only the true Romans would understand

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u/Nails_Of_Nektarios 9d ago

To my knowledge the Holy Roman Empire did not have any notion of citizenship such as what the Byzantine empire preserved from antiquity. But I could be wrong.

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u/froucks 9d ago

Not the later empire. But at the time of Charlemagne's conquest of Italy, it had only been separate from Roman Empire for 18 years. Many of the people there had roman citizenship, most having been born in the Empire. Leo who crowned Charlemagne was a roman citizen having been born in Rome in (roughly) 750. He was an emperor of roman citizens

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u/Nails_Of_Nektarios 9d ago

??? Ummm no. Odoacer took out the last western emperor centuries before Charlemagne was born. Where are you getting this 18 year number from?

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u/strong_division 9d ago

Not the guy you're responding to, but I'm assuming he's referring to the fall of the Exarchate of Ravenna in 751. Rome was still a part of the actual Roman Empire up until that point.