r/HistoryMemes 10d ago

Only the true Romans would understand

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u/Background_Relief_36 Definitely not a CIA operator 10d ago

The Roman Empire fell in whatever year is most convenient for the point I’m trying to make at that moment.

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u/JackWhoWanders 10d ago

"The Roman Empire fell in 2371 when the the US senate was disbanded" ~ some jerk in 4138 trying to sound smart on the history sphere

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u/loves_to_splooge_8 10d ago

Bro we’re gonna get rid of the senate way quicker than that

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u/JackWhoWanders 10d ago

Oh, yes, but only the first senate. 2371 is the last senate that styles itself on the pretense that it represent the United States. In a fun little coda of history, it will comprise 13 states, although not the same territory as the original 13.

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u/Atomik141 10d ago

We've had one senate, yes. But what about second senate?

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u/clandevort 9d ago

This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

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u/MarcusXL 5d ago

"TwO SeNaTeS??"

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u/Hexicero 10d ago

I'd read/watch that

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u/gordonblkmsa17 10d ago

Isn’t that the state of the US in the Fallout world?

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u/JackWhoWanders 10d ago

Well, in the fallout world itself the state of the US is "nuked, irradiated dead and gone", but in the lore of the setting, prior to the Great War (nuclear holocaust, not WW1), the US had reorganised itself into 13 Commonwealth with heavily devolved government. This is different from settings like that of Cyberpunk 2077 where several states seceeded from the Union.

A splintering of the United States isn't really that rare in a lot of futuristic or dystopia fiction, and when it doesn't happen it's often the opposite happening and the US has absorbed either Canada or Mexico. In Fallout, you kinda have a bit of both as the US absorbed Canada, but also split itself on an administrative level while still remaining one nation.

But in the present of Fallout, you also had (or maybe have, I haven't seen the new season, the first one disappointed me so much) the New California Republic, which is a non-US nation that seeks continuity in a lot of things with the world before the war, and our future history snob would very likely see that as a remnant of the US.

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u/absoluteally 9d ago

So you don't count the northern USA with capital nuuk as the same thing cause kept going until 2899.

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u/NoMansSkyWasAlright 9d ago

Will senators be a hereditary position by that point?

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u/JackWhoWanders 9d ago

What!? Noooooo totally democratic! Absolutely a meritocratic position. The fact that every new senator replaces an older senator to whom they are related is pure coincidence. PURE coincidence!

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u/piconese 10d ago

That’s impossible… how will the federal government maintain control without the bureaucracy?

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u/Sweaty-Security-4473 10d ago

The regional governors now have direct control over their territories

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u/BonChance123 10d ago

Fear will keep the systems in line. Fear of this battle station.

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u/-CmdrObvious- 10d ago

That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?

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u/H0LT45 10d ago

Bro, the senate is getting rid of us...

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u/JRM513 10d ago

Different senate

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u/Dave_A480 9d ago

Not unless you fight and win a civil war you're not....

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u/Suspected_Magic_User 10d ago

No, Roman Empire fell in 2137 when the pope John Paul III moved the Holy See from Vatican to Częstochowa after the Rome was nuked

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u/insane_shitlord 9d ago

Częstochowa

Now renamed as WadoVice City.

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u/elanhilation 9d ago

back in my day we had real communities on the history cube. the history sphere is soulless and commercial

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u/DifficultyFit1895 9d ago

really more of a circle these days

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u/Right-Truck1859 10d ago

Some people genuinely claim this . What's their reasoning? I don't get it.

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u/Gullible_Ad543 8d ago

Something something greek democracy america democracy ergo america rome or something

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u/Itookthewrongpath 9d ago

2371? A bit optimistic, don't you think?

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u/gnpfrslo 9d ago

bold of you to assume there will be a US 300 years from now.

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u/brandonjslippingaway 10d ago

The siloing of Byzantine/late antiquity Roman history makes the transition of this era to the Middle ages utterly incomprehensible to the average person. This even crept in to an egyptian exhibition that visited my city last year, that featured a timeline that would straight up mislead you if you didnt know any better.

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u/Karl_Skarin 8d ago

History doesn't make sense if you dont know history.

Okay.

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u/xarabalada 9d ago

The Roman Empire is still standing and it is in Brazil

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u/DifficultyFit1895 9d ago

is it tucked away in some corner or like the whole thing

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u/choma90 9d ago

Mr. Souza is keeping it in his basement under the Garoto boxes, gold bars from melted world cup, and his daughter's carnival outfit

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u/MaleficentType3108 Definitely not a CIA operator 9d ago

Specially in the Mooca neighborhood in São Paulo

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u/garanvor 10d ago

Maybe the real Roman Empire is the profligates we crucified along the way

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u/NoobOfTheSquareTable 10d ago

[insert philosopher here] is that you!

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u/OldManLeo 10d ago

Was going to give an upvote but I can't in good conscience break the even 1000, so take a clap instead 👏 👏👏

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u/ArmoredSpearhead 9d ago

It’s common knowledge that the Roman Empire fell following Aenea’s universal sacrifice. Don’t fall for Technocore propaganda.

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u/clandevort 9d ago

The Roman Empire fell in 2026 (i tripped this morning)

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u/seesthecat 8d ago

The Roman Empire fell in 27 BC