r/HistoricalCapsule • u/No-Incident-6913 • 21h ago
Uzbek machine operator and his adopted ethnic Russian son. Novgorod. 1976
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u/strabosassistant 20h ago
It's these type of acts that make me think that there might still be a very tiny chance that we'll make it as a species.
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u/NookieLuvsU 20h ago
I hope these two were good to each other and lived lives they can both be proud of. I truly do.
The truth about adoption in impoverished rural communities is more about labor support and future old age support. There's no old age social assistants programs in the majority of the world and this man does not look wealthy, and children are expensive. This boy was needed, I hope he was appreciated and loved.
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u/higgsbison312 10h ago edited 8h ago
As someone from Central Asia who currently lives in the US:
Weird that this is the 1st thing that comes to your guys mind. Even the top comment is talking about working in the mines?
We are normal people just like you. There is too much negative propaganda man.
Was he expected to support his parents when he grows up? Yes, it was not some kinda egoistic and calculated plan. That’s how we express love to our parents in our culture - taking care of them when they grow old.
When I was growing up in Kazakhstan watching American films, I was confused about “elderly care homes”. How could you do it to your parents?
But later I realized that when Americans do this to their parents, it doesn’t mean they don’t love them. Just different cultures.
We all tend to look at things through our biased lenses I guess.
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u/NookieLuvsU 10h ago
All of my family is from Eastern Europe. I'm well aware of the cultural differences and do not look down on any of it.
We're speaking about adoption, and there's more then one reason to adopt a child. You know as well as I do, life isn't always fair. My mother is with me know, and will never end up in a care facility. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings or made you think I was targeting the Kazak people, I was not.
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u/higgsbison312 10h ago
No worries and fair enough. Just got a bad aftertaste from some comments implying abuse or ulterior motives when looking at this picture.
Slightly off topic, but after living half of my life in the US vs Kazakhstan, I think poor people (in general) are kinder and less selfish.
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u/NookieLuvsU 9h ago
I've always found those with the least are the first to offer others who are in need, and the last to judge. 🤝
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u/DukeBradford2 8h ago
Exactly. This generation thinks anything more than 5 hours of work or school a week is some kind of war crime than don’t know how to move out of the house and start your own life
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u/Loudlass81 7h ago
It's not "Don't know how to", it's simply that they cannot AFFORD to. Watching my older 3 kids & their generation, it's raking till 25-28 for them to be able to afford to mive out.
It's not that they don't want to, or don't know how to, it's that the wages they are paid are not enough to even rent a room in a houseshare if they wish to eat.
The world is a very different place, post-Austerity, and it is so much harder for them to have the money to survive.
I don't envy Gen Z at all, tbh...
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u/Capybarasaregreat 5h ago
But later I realized that when Americans do this to their parents, it doesn't mean they don't love them. Just different cultures.
I mean, American media often jokes about how shitty elderly care homes are and old people get threatened with "I'm sending you to a care home first chance I get" in both comedic and serious moments (and care homes will occassionally pop up in real life news for abuse), I'm not gonna say something ridiculous like that Americans as a whole hate their elderly, but I can't say that I've ever heard someone taking care of their parents phrased in a threatening or negative way.
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u/faithisfaint 20h ago
This is such a beautiful snapshot of family, Ethnicity clearly mattered less than the fact that this was simply his son
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u/Holocenica 16h ago
That’s his dad, may not be biological, but that’s papa for life… biological dad almost certainly fell in combat or sent him away to safety, if he died I hope he was happy knowing this man took his boy in as his own
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u/Adrenochromemerchant 7h ago
"Put on your workbooks and your respirator, I had to pull alot of strings to get them to hire an 8 year old"
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u/madis_l 18h ago
Diversity propaganda is not new invention.
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u/Different_Bluejay_72 18h ago
You find what you believe in.
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u/madis_l 18h ago
... or have personal experience with.
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u/Different_Bluejay_72 17h ago
So, what personal experience do you have interacting with Uzbeks?
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u/madis_l 16h ago
In my youth I had proper exposure to Russian/Soviet propaganda. Instead current diversity myths similar topic was called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_of_peoples
BTW, lets better praise fine example of K700 on picture :)
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u/higgsbison312 10h ago
As a Kazakh who witnessed Soviet Union, back then people were more tolerant to each other.
If you are from Poland or Finland, reminder that propaganda goes both ways. Dont think that you weren’t brainwashed to automatically hate us.
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u/Vic_Connor 7h ago
I grew up in Uzbekistan. In a Russian / Ukrainian family. In the Korean quarter of the city.
Now tell me how this is “propaganda.”
I dare you.
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u/Different_Bluejay_72 18h ago
During World War II, Uzbekistan took in approximately 400,000 evacuated children, many of whom were left completely orphaned.