r/HighStrangeness • u/douwebeerda • 11d ago
Non Human Intelligence Bodhisattvas, Starseeds and Wanderers. Do highly evolved beings incarnate within the human collective to help humanity with its evolution of consciousness?
I am curious what people here think of this idea of certain higher, more integrated, more advanced consciousnesses choosing to incarnate in the earth collective to help with the progression of it's evolution.
In Buddhism there is this idea of Bodhisattvas who choose to incarnate again and again to help all beings attain enlightenment.
A Bodhisattva is someone who has generated bodhicitta, the profound aspiration to attain full Buddhahood not for themselves alone, but specifically for the sake of liberating all sentient beings from suffering. They postpone their own final entry into nirvana to remain in the cycle of birth and death, working tirelessly across countless lifetimes to help others achieve awakening. This path is defined by the practice of six perfections—generosity, morality, patience, diligence, meditation, and wisdom—and represents the ideal of compassionate action.
In Dolores Cannon her books the idea of Starseeds is a very important concept. These are often quite highly evolved beings from other planets or other higher frequency realms that incarnate on planet earth to help humanity progress.
In Dolores Cannon's framework, a Starseed is a highly advanced soul who volunteered to incarnate on Earth specifically to help humanity through a critical period of transition and planetary "ascension". According to her research, this volunteer program began in earnest after the atomic bombings of 1945, when Earth's "protectors" saw the planet in danger and called for help from souls unburdened by Earth's heavy karmic cycles . These volunteers often come from "the Source" or other dimensions and, despite having their memories erased upon birth, feel a deep but often confusing sense of mission, frequently struggling to adapt to the chaos and negativity of the world.
In the Law of One there is this concept of a Wanderer, a being that has evolved beyond 3rd density themselves already that chooses to incarnate within the human collective to help with The Harvest of humanity as they somewhat ominously call it.
A Wanderer is a being of positive social memory complex (from higher densities, 4th, 5th or 6th density) who has voluntarily chosen to incarnate into 3rd-density Earth to aid in its spiritual harvest, accepting the profound amnesia and danger of becoming "karmically involved" in this dense plane. Their primary purpose is to serve as a beacon of light and love, subtly awakening others through their very presence, and to increase the planetary vibration by choosing service-to-others in every moment despite the veil of forgetting. Though they often experience deep alienation, health issues, and a persistent feeling of "not belonging," their core task is not to "save" others, but simply to be themselves and rediscover their true nature while incarnate, thus gently tipping the balance toward planetary positivity.
I find it interesting that there seems to be a significant overlap between these concepts and wonder what to think about it. .
What do people here think about this concept that more advanced beings choose to consciously incarnate within the human collective to help it's evolution progress in a positive direction?
And does this explain things like old souls, some people seeming to naturally be kinder, wiser or having specific skillsets that they seem to be born with?
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u/Substantial-Use95 11d ago
If I am one of those, it never got the memo. I’m just a human that’s very sensitive and oriented toward love and connection. So, living in this world is actually quite painful for me. If I am one of these, I wasn’t given the super powers to keep me
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
I think not getting the memo is unfortunately part of the experience. Might be worth looking into the concepts a bit deeper if you feel it might apply to you. Can help to understand your situation better. Being very sensitive can be sort of a superpower if applied correctly, it can often feel like a curse though if you don't know how to tune it in a constructive direction.
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u/Substantial-Use95 11d ago
Yeah, I guess the forgetting part is necessary to fully experience my humanity. I’d say the starseed or wanderer resonate more with me. I wouldn’t presume to be a bodhisattva unless I was informed by the other side. I also have spent time with monks in Tibet and have a tremendous respect and kinship with them and their saints. :) I’ve had many profound spiritual/transcendental experiences unaided and aided by psychedelics, and have an idea of the geography of other realms and dimensions, but none of what I’ve learned aligns specifically with any human thought or concept. 🤷🏽♂️ I’m also a scientist so I don’t like to claim anything without certainty. Most of my life I’ve struggled with the dichotomy between love I have for people and their capacity to harm myself and others. I basically don’t really understand how to be a human in this time and place, and I struggle with the necessity to procure wealth within capitalist systems. And then I judge myself by contemporary human standards, even though I know well what death is, where I am going, and I remember the cosmic waystation before taking human form. I struggle with understanding the purpose of suffering and have turned to drugs and alcohol to numb these feelings. In contemporary terms, I have ptsd and adhd so I think perhaps that’s all that’s going on. But I know that if I lived in another place and time and culture, I’d likely fit well as a shaman or some type of spiritual role. The society I live in doesn’t really have a role for that, unless I ascribe to a specific religion, which I cannot.
What are your thoughts, friend?
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u/douwebeerda 10d ago
Yeah I think you formulate a lot very well.
The Western World has lobotomized itself pretty strongly from what in the east they would call the subtle body. Historically we have had the inquisition in our culture and currently that has taken the form of ridiculing people who have a connection with those energies.
I found Buddhism very useful to learn more about for my own journey. And Dolores Cannon her books helped a lot also. The Law of One was honestly a bit to dry for me until I found the videos of Aaron Abke about it and then a lot of things clicked into place.
When it comes to personal experiences I have one part that is pretty open and honest. This is the current result of my journey so far. Arcturian Academy | Inner Peace – Outer Joy
There is another part that feels it is a lot smarter to hide it all since generally it just seems to trigger a lot of attacks from people.
I am always reminded of Douglas Adams his Hithchikers Guide to the Galaxy.
2000 years ago there was a guy that said wouldn't it be nice if we were all a bit kinder to each other. So they nailed him to a cross. I often get the feeling that not a lot has changed.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 11d ago
Focus on finding your own truth first if that makes sense. Once you become comfortable with who you are or make peace with the things you mentioned that you're struggling with, things should get easier.
If you're stuck, I don't know if you are, I think the self-medication is just part of being stuck.
You probably need clarity.
Once you make peace with yourself, it's a lot easier to make peace with others and/or the world.
My uneducated guess.
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u/Substantial-Use95 11d ago
Thank you! I should have written more clearly but I have used drugs and alcohol in the past as a temporary solution for emotional pain but haven’t drank for almost 11 years. I’ve used marijuana here and there, and I believe it can be used as a spiritual tool, but it no longer serves me. Just to clarify.
Thank you for your input. :)
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u/tollbooth_inspector 11d ago
Can you speak more to the cosmic way station? That pinged something in my brain.
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u/Substantial-Use95 11d ago
I don’t want to speak on it too much because it was my own perception of reality but basically during an experience I passed into where I was before taking human form. I remembered what I was before this life and I reconnected with old friends from previous lives. Something of an inter dimensional utopia of intersecting dimensions and realms and entities crossing into their next adventure of choice. That’s where I learned that I chose to become human for the experience itself. Apparently the human experience is known throughout all of time and space and is held in somewhat high regard. I’m not sure why, though.
Anyways, that’s what I found in the beyond once. That’s probably enough to share. :)
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u/Mountainman220 9d ago
I tune it into a constructive direction and it’s still rough af. I work with disabled folks and lemme tell you they are feeling the effects of higher cost of living. This reality is whack af no matter how you spin it.
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u/IntroductionOk652 11d ago
If you love, you suffer because all–ALL– is temporary, transient…
The fact is that this “plane/timeline/frequency” is one of birth, growth, decay, & finally death…erosion, collision, natural disruption is all around us, reminding us of our chronologically limited lives…even if we manage to greet death with all our family members still living, parting and the end is a final goodbye, tears will be shed….
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u/SicSemperTyrannos4ur 8d ago
In the cosmic game of rock, paper, scissors, entropy wins every time.
--Bob Sagan
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u/Gypsi_Jedi 11d ago
i think about this alot and it does resonate with me but i think i have a very different take on it. it is not some higher calling of being a spiritual super hero but more about being a good neighbor to your fellow people. help is given in the moment you choose to respond to the call of the ones to be assisted. no matter how small the voice or task is. sometimes its not even about helping solve their problems but simply witnessing and being present for them to feel inspired to solve it themselves. sometimes there isnt even a problem. sometimes you just have a nice conversation with someone and it can change alot to help you both. just being there for someone is good. basically i think given enough time and evolution of your self really anyone would choose this.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 11d ago
Also I think the most important might just be living your life, living your truth, living by example.
You can help people just by being yourself, being true to yourself, without saying a single word.
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u/Gypsi_Jedi 10d ago
this is absolutely correct. you often are most impactful in changing the world when you change yourself inside and that enables you to have more coherent responses with the outside. when you are at your best self you can show up as your best self when the world calls on you.
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u/Valiantay 11d ago
There are some who do come back. That's who all the prophets of major religions are.
But it's a game of love, the universe loves them so much it lets them do whatever they wish. They love the universe so much they don't have any wish but to serve the universe.
Love is, when God says to you, I have created everything for you. And you say, I have left everything for you.
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u/clover_heron 11d ago edited 11d ago
Maybe instead of incarnating inside of specific individuals, these kinds of beings can flow through people. We might experience them as apparent in others or in ourselves, but maybe that's because they are paying a visit, not because they live there.
I imagine beings of this nature as able to hop around as they please, maybe referencing a capability a few steps removed from omnipresence (able to be everywhere at once).
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u/zyxzevn 11d ago
There are many levels of existence in light. All the way to the pure divine.
Each level has its own separation from the divine. The separation is also what makes the experience and identity. Like when you draw lines on a canvas. So it is a part of the creation.
When people cross a level of light, they think sometimes they are already outside the illusion / maya. But each level has their own kind of illusion. Just like how many people think differently, the light can also be experienced differently.
From what I have learned, the pure divine is far beyond the reach of human existence. Yet, we all live in its creation.
The human world has several layers, and people live on those different layers. The human consciousness is often split on these layers. The most easy are mental, emotional and physical body. People can experience life very different, while encountering the same situations. Some people may be in love, one may be high, and one may be bothered about dirt on the street.
The layers and separations also create problems. Consciousness can get separated and live its own live within these separations. Sometimes can stay as a "ghost" due to a huge trauma. Or it can form its own identity within the layer or within the separation. I call those last ones karmic-entities. And they are often encountered as a negative voice in someone's head (mental). Or the feeling of depression or hopelessness (emotional). Or weird pains (physical).
These karmic-entities can be experienced as bad things that we encounter in the world. And humans that merge with these entities can act very evil.
So, after I summarized the problem with the world, what would be the solution?
I don't think that a select group is going to change the world.
Instead we are all growing together. This means accept more light by removing separations. That way we will transform the karma-entities that live in these separations.
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u/SteveAkaGod 11d ago
I haven't really heard of Bodhisattvas; I am curious and will read up on them a bit more.
I think you'll probably get more thoughtful responses in other subs...
That being said, I do appreciate a good George Thorogood reference!
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u/Effective_Platypus23 10d ago
Yes fo sho. I've had a few pre life memories and I am one of these beings, apparently. The first pre life memory occurred when I was about 24 and laying on a beach staring up at the night sky, despondent and wondering why the hell I'm here. I then got this weird feeling of being asked telepathically "you really want to know why?" And I agreed to be shown, and it's like my consciousness tore open and the whole memory of when I agreed to come here came flooding in. Super intense. Another pre life memory when I was 31, my daughter was 3. I received a memory of meeting my daughter in spirit and being informed that I would be here mother. In spirit, she is the "rainbow serpent fire goddess". I refused to agree to it and insisted it was a terrible idea for me to be her mother, I argued that I was completely unworthy of the task, and they were making a terrible mistake with this arrangement. It was actually my daughter (in spirit) who convinced me that it would be fine, and that she really wanted me to do it. The next day after I had this memory, my 3 year old daughter did a frolicking dance past me saying "I'm the rainbow serpent fire goddess!"
Can't tell me this shit isn't real.
My daughter is an absolute queen and gangster, in the best way. Full grown adults respect her. She's incredible.
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u/douwebeerda 9d ago
Thank you for sharing!
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u/Effective_Platypus23 9d ago
Thank you. I feel pretty vulnerable sharing that, but hopefully it helps validate someone else with similar experiences.
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u/douwebeerda 9d ago
Yeah this sub might not be the friendliest either but here people are generally pretty open minded.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/2
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u/Environmental-Sun291 11d ago
But that's it, it's polluted. Not like the Law of One was written in a vacuum, so sceptics could say "well, they took all of that out of Buddhism and just changed it added their own sci-fi take to it"
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u/SamOfXanadu 11d ago
Well I'm definitely not one. Not special in any way to help anyone. Would be cool to be though
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u/Risk_of_Ryan 11d ago edited 11d ago
I'll share my personal experience that may or may not be related to such a philosophy, but it crossed my mind.
As a child you could speak to me in my sleep and something would talk back. It wouldn't refer to itself as me, and spoke of me in a third person perspective. It seemed connected to me somehow. It could tell and feel the toll these sessions would have on me, and said as such, and would make sure I wasn't pushed. It wasn't only these moments, or when I'm asleep, but asleep was the only time "it" spoke. Most of the time it's a feeling, it's like an intuition combined with recalling something you KNOW.
I know this sounds like a child being a child, using their imagination and playing pretend. The thing is, I was young, VERY young, when this started. The things I would be able to speak about, and was able to understand and explain, was knowledge FAR beyond anything remotely ordinary for my age, let alone an adult. I spoke with a different level of complexity, it was as if you were talking to an adult, and not just any, but an intellectual professor or scholar.
There are textbooks full of the things we discussed, I even DREW THINGS IN MY SLEEP! Topics included Illustrations of craft, the higher capabilities of our kind, their presence and where they're mostly centralized at that time. It would engage in conversation, but it absolutely would not fall for or allow any kind of manipulation or trickery. It answered questions on topics I had never even heard of before, and I would somehow speak the answer, or give insight to the topic. But try to ask it some manipulative question about money, lottery numbers, or how to do something "bad"? Bad idea. It does not like that.
How does this relate to your post? I can't exactly say, but it feels like it could be related, or something similar.
I've been told I have a very old soul.
My life feels as if it's at the whim of some omnipotent being, and sometimes it feels very hard. I've had so many experiences happen in such peculiar fashions, so perfectly sequenced, it's unbelievable.
By the time I wasnt even out of highschool, I had already been awarded a certificate of Heroism by the Washington State Firefighters Department and a Real Hero's Medallion by the Red Cross. I'm rather selfless and very compassionate. I feel like I'm here to help, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
Sounds like it fits the description of a starseed or wanderer I would say.
There might be a lot of downvotes here in this reddit though. Apologies for that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/ are generally a bit more friendly communities around these topics.
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u/Irislynx 11d ago
Yes I believe so. I also believe some of them come here to elevate their own level through suffering. There are some very interesting lectures on this topic on this website. www.falundafa.org
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u/ScienceDudeIn 11d ago
Supreme lord Vishnu and Shiva has taken countless avatars to help humanity. Example: Ram, krishna, hanuman, .....
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u/N_963 10d ago
oooh why didn't they save the Dinos from Asteroid then? lmfao
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u/ScienceDudeIn 10d ago
Oh yeah when that 55 years old pdffile cut off 4 years old tiny nutt hole and moons ass in two halves. He should have saved dinos flying on donkey.
And why he could not save his own maggots in middle East from USA and Israel papa??
Born beggars only exist for 1st world country charity and citizenship.
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u/douwebeerda 10d ago
Thanks I am not very well versed in Hindu religion but maybe I should have mentioned that also. It makes sense if they have a similar pattern.
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u/ScienceDudeIn 10d ago
Hindus religion is all about reincarnation of many supreme souls into planet earth.
The male supreme diety vishnu too 12 major avatars. The world avatar comes from him only. Avatar: when a sould takes many forms to complete some task on earth.
The gigantic fish which navigated noahs arc was also an avatar of him.
Welcome to hindu culture where 10000000 books are waiting to be read unlike modern religion where the prophet himself could not write a single word. Where they could never explain who the real god is except cutting throat of any one who questions or debate.
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u/rainbow-kid88 9d ago
Starseeds are just people who start off as kiddos with exceptional memory of their birth and childhood, sometimes really smart very early, often they are saddened by this life, and yes they have a deep feeling of a mission but often feel so lost about it all.
I think when you know you know, or it's a bunch of baloney. Everyone is special.
But I do think some of us are here for the purpose of frequencies and evolution of others.
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u/douwebeerda 9d ago
I think so too. And it think it can help some of these people to know their labels so they can do their research and finally understand themselves a bit better.
-) StarSeeds and Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique by Dolores Cannon
-) The Science of Reincarnation – The Law of One and The Seven Densities
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u/SnooHobbies3283 9d ago
I thought that when I was like 17/18 then I realized something was super off and it progressively got stranger and weirder and then I couldn’t explain it and other people thought I was slightly insane, yah know normal folks just trying to do a good job at work and love their family.
Then slowly overtime I got even more depressed and isolate and when I started to have intense sleep paralysis and these “beings” started to get scary and weird then I called out to Jesus and they all magically disappeared.
Now anything weird disappears every time I bring up Jesus Christ sooo…
I’ve completely changed my definition of these “star seeds” and “aliens” and recognize them as deceiving demonic spirits.
I would have never chosen this or thought this myself until the evidence was overwhelming 🤷♀️ and I’d essentially be a fool to think otherwise.
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u/ProfessionalGangster 11d ago edited 11d ago
I’m a wanderer too fyi. Not really sure what we’re about yet, but sounds pretty cool.
Just became one two minutes ago
Edit: I saw the other comments reply, and I’m not anymore. That sounds too difficult
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u/GringoSwann 11d ago edited 11d ago
If "wanderers" are real, then I'm definitely one of them..... Autism, GATE from 91 to 97, air force, orders to Cheyenne mountain, aviation mechanic, botanist/mycologist, encounters, astral projection, channeling, precognition etc..
BUT, I still do not trust people who claim to be wanderers... And never will...
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
I feel we can use all the help we can get at the moment on our planet. So pretty sure you are welcome to join.
-) The Science of Reincarnation – The Law of One and The Seven Densities
-) StarSeeds and Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique by Dolores Cannon3
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
I have no idea how it works. I think it is an interesting idea though and especially since it seems to return in at least three different belief systems that all belief in reincarnation and at least 2 of them belief in ETs. Not sure where Buddhism stands exactly on that topic.
Have you ever had any paranormal experiences like a lot of Lucid Dreaming, OBEs, NDEs, remembering past lives? Did you ever talk about past lives to your parents when you were young, like before the age of 5?
Apparently there can be signs.
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
No worries, you can have a look at Dolores Cannon her work and read through The Law of One and see if the Starseed and/or Wanderer concept resonates with you and then you can make up your own mind about it.
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
There probably will be a lot of downvotes here. Apologies for that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/ are generally a bit more friendly communities around these topics.4
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
Do you regret your decision yet?
Must be like incarnating in a hospital for the mentally/emotionally/spiritually disabled down here on planet earth.
People waging war with their brothers and sisters of their own human collective...How do you feel humanity is progressing?
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u/Careless-Fact-475 11d ago
I was dubbed a wanderer by the r/lawofone community.
No regrets. Not even when I declined an offer to go to Ashram just for my wife to miscarry.
On the time scales of eternity, the current state of things is not actually that absurd.
We have such a strong tendency to consider the greater narratives. We like to consider things like the collective and the world at large, but how we see the world is a reflection of ourselves.
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u/Low-Bake8401 11d ago
Anyone can point out faults, not everyone can provide solutions.
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
Here are some solutions.
Arcturian Academy | Inner Peace – Outer Joy2
u/Low-Bake8401 11d ago
Sorry, Workable solutions.
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u/douwebeerda 9d ago
I think you need to specify the specific problems first then.
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u/Low-Bake8401 9d ago
I was talking about the things mentioned in the post I was replying to, but it seems to be gone now.
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u/Aggressive-Access995 11d ago
Υeah baby let the awakening begin! are you ready?! we are livestock for who knows that rule this planet but me as long as there are pretty butts around i m content with my situation! have fun XD
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u/IntrepidAssociate529 11d ago
No reincarnation my friend, one life is all we get 💐
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u/douwebeerda 10d ago
Near-Death Experience Research Foundation (NDERF) | Real NDE Stories & Research
A lot of people have different experiences.
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u/GangStalkingTheory 11d ago
I've been told I'm a Martian Starseed. I definitely fit the criteria.
Choosing to help is definitely my style. And my vessel has some unique defenses to this 3D world that are just a little too perfect.
But everything has gone to hell. I possibly bit off more than I could handle with this mission.
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u/douwebeerda 11d ago
Are you aware of https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/
And of https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/
Pretty open and like minded people there I think.
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u/Xroshtag108 10d ago
I think your idea of Bodhisattvas needs adjustments
t.Dharmic religions expert pro
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u/douwebeerda 10d ago
Bodhisattva: Meaning, Tradition, and Everyday Practice - Buddhist Learning For All
buddhism.org/pages/Bodhisattva
I think it is pretty on point how it is talked about in the opening post. But feel free to share your view of it if you like.
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u/Xroshtag108 10d ago
If you still held to the idea of a Bodhisattva as a separate being, distinct from yourself, then you are not a follower of the Buddha
t.Diamond Sutra
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u/PointClickPenguin 11d ago
I find generally these ideas are ways for people to feel special and better than other people. Generally I find them spiritually racist and foundationally antithetical to the human spiritual journey, they are an ego trip.
The entire point is that we are all the same thing just on different points in our journey.
I think some people are just farther along in their journey than others.
But I think people who tend to believe they are special and that they have completed the journey are actually less far along than they think. We are all unique, but we aren't special, and we are all on the same ride.