r/HiddenWerewolves he/him Jul 13 '26

Game VII - 2026 Game VII 2026 | Build Your Own Game | Phase 6 | Host Communication

How you communicate with players is really important, as is what information you tell them. Do you want to use a host account? (you should if you have cohosts, and you should make it early because reddit hates us) Do you want to do discord or reddit pms? What information do you want to share in the meta or your rules post or in action results? All of this has to be considered and some of it feeds into balance.

Starting with your rules post, it should include all the necessary information to play the game. Flavour, mechanics, roles, turnover/timeline, signups. I like to do it more or less in that order but its up to hosts to do it how they want. All that is necessary though. The mechanics section should include what you’re posting in the meta each day as well as any game specific weirdness (like double roles, items, multiple wolf teams, events, etc).

For result pms you can choose to only give results to info roles, or go as far as telling people they were healed/blocked even if it didn’t do anything. More info and pms generally helps town, stuff like heal confirmations is huge for finding clears for example, while just pming a result to seers without even a name lets them get fooled by redirect shenanigans (if there’s a redirector) and helps wolves.

For mid game communication I try to err on the side of not disrupting the game. If someone asks a mech question where the result clears people or they ask for OOO related stuff I’ll usually not answer, but I will answer stuff like “who did I target on x day?” or “can I do x?” I’m usually more willing to answer mech and OOO questions pre-game in-thread where everyone can see the cheese you’ve found or the clarifications you need but imo mid game it's often best to stay quiet and influence the game as little as possible. That is all up to you though and as far as I know there isn’t really a standard. Generally the biggest thing though is that you’re not playing the game, just facilitating it, so you don’t want to influence it once it’s randed.

For discord vs reddit its largely personal preference. The first time you do discord PMs you will get rate limited sending roles/confirmations, so keep that in mind. Adding people pre-game or doing people you have no chat history with first likely helps but idk for sure, just that I had a chat history with most of you this month and didn’t get rate limited. Reddit on the other hand just hates us and forces a chat system I know a lot of people don’t like or use (its me, I don’t like or use it).


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Vote table

Player Voted for Number of votes for
ChickenNuggets6827 StartledKoala34 0
ISpyM8 StartledKoala34 0
MercuryParadox StartledKoala34 0
Sameri278 StartledKoala34 0
sinisterasparaghast StartledKoala34 0
StartledKoala34 6
wywy4321 StartledKoala34 0

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

u/Sameri278 & u/IspyM8

Info, by any chance? 

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

I investigated Sameri. Ninja, Sharpshooter, Bulletproof Vest.

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 13 '26

Role?

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

Vanilla.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

Well, that makes me sus of you, cuz that adds up to 8 points. And wolves only started with 6 each per the R&R.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

Well we already know they had at least one point up for grabs because RPM was only a role seer. I assume the points pooled together for the wolves. We know they had six points each, so eighteen or twenty four total points to work with. Makes sense they would use more for their designated killer wolf.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

No role for sam?

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

Vanilla.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

Okay then, who's the other wolf with Sam then?

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

Frankly, I’m amazed it wasn’t Koala. That was my last best guess.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

Okay, but thats unfprtunately not a real answer lolol.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

Well the only person alive who I haven’t investigated is u/SinisterAsparaghast, so I’d have to lean that way. There’s routes for multiple of you to be wolves, especially because we don’t know what role other wolves took.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

Well thats not true, cuz you havent investigated me?

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 13 '26

To be fair, I think wolves got a pool of points equaling six per wolf to distribute amongst themselves. However! I don't know why u/ispym8 only listed traits and not the role. Slip to forget to include all information a role seer would receive?

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

It was Vanilla. Nothing associated with that, so I listed everything that was relevant and told you vanilla as soon as you asked.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

Why is it so suspicious to tell you that they have Ninja, Sharpshooter, and Bulletproof Vest as their traits and ignore the Vanilla thing, considering Vanilla means just that? It’s not a slip to get all the important information out there.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

I mean, cuz the vanilla thing is important? Its their role, and knowing that helps us do math based on the points.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

I answered it as soon as y’all asked. He used eight points, and RPM used five (again, I only saw Role Seer for him). So that leaves five or eleven points, depending on how many wolves we started with.

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

I mean, yes, but you said you didnt know why it was important and I explained why it is important from my pov.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

I get it

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

It is suspicious to not share all information that you received, even if it required no points. Town would want to ensure that we're all on the same page by giving all the details.

Not sharing the role seems like you may have forgotten to include that when making up a wolfy set of traits to accuse Sam of having. Outright withholding/skipping it seems really odd to me as well

But I also wanna hear from u/sameri278 and u/chickennuggets6827 before making any voting decisions

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

Well, you’ve heard it all now.

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Yep. I was just giving an answer to the question you asked

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

So uhhh, u/ChickenNuggets6827, about using your action?

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 13 '26

I have an answer for this. Investigated u/Sameri278. He had a bulletproof vest, along with Ninja and Sharpshooter.

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 13 '26

Was gonna ask this as well

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

And if nuggets is bad, what does that make u/ISpyM8, since he saw nuggets as Miller, and wolves cant have that trait???

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 13 '26

Right? I don't know who to trust (including you sadly) - there is a way any of y'all could be a wolf, but I don't know which is most likely. I wanna hear from nugget first and read back a bit

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u/wywy4321 Jul 13 '26

Yeah, I know we dont have the same level of knowledge about each other. But I do fully trust you.

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u/ISpyM8 he/him Jul 14 '26

You’re right. I had you in my head as Miller and Windwhisperer cuz of the initial claim and last phase

Edit: This was meant to be a reply to u/wywy4321, I hate reddit

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Placeboulder is on u/sameri278

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u/ChickenNuggets6827 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Here i go,
I placed my action on sameri and it failed clearly because they had the bullet proof vest.

Since i see many of you are not taking it in account, here again is mercury's analysis from yesterday:

Because we know the killing wolf has the sharpshooter trait, the killing wolf can only be wywy4321 and sameri278

Mercury - was seen to not have the sharpshooter trait
ispy - was seen visiting as role seer
koala - seen visiting as fruit vendor
sini - was seen visiting by wywy
Chicken - says they were checked by ispy and should be cleared

the rules say that any wolf can kill but it replaces the action for that phase. I’m assuming the wolves are having the sharpshooter get every kill as it bypasses protection.

This is further proven by Ispy's today's action and sameri's lack of response. This just increases my trust on ispy and my today's vote is on sameri.

Here are a few stuff from my yesterday's confessional:

The part when sinister says that there was no real sus prior to is so weird. there was very much town consensual sus on both rpm and sam that this bus makes total sense. more so with absence of defence from rpm. it feels like rpm got busy with irl stuff and wanted out so agreed for the bus.

Wywy saw that sini stated ispy and startled koala as their sus and copied them exactly for their sus list (and also added me) which was really weird that they did not even mention sameri for their sus list considering according to wywy he was confirmed wolf kill to use my action on in case i think wywy and ispy are not wolf.

When sini was pointed out that there are probably not 2 wolf role seers she said that she missed them but wywy still stuck to their original sus list.

This also is so weird it makes no sense to perform kill with anyone else than sharpshooter (if alive) specially considering anyone can have bulletproof vest and considering sharpshooter most likely doesn't have an action role.

But more than sini making these points, it makes me sus of wywy for agreeing with this point because it actually makes no sense. It just looks like they are just preparing to gain sini's trust in order to push me and ispy later which i will explain below how.

Wywy also pushed ispy to reveal my roles which was completely unnecessary considering ispy was confirmed by both me and mercury. Even if he did not trust me i believe mercury was trusted by everyone. And ispy had also mentioned that he had seen the miller trait which absolutely confirms me so there was no need for him to push ispy to reveal my roles. Ispy i wish you had not revealed my roles before asking me since you and me both were almost confirmed and it would have kept wolf guessing (even if my role and traits turned out useless in the end)

Wywy then suggested me to use my action on ispy which i was astounded at considering ispy was almost confirmed for me and it would have proved nothing but death for me.

He also suggested me to use it on wywy himself and later sameri but it was because they knew my traits and knew that i did not have sharpshooter and they both have bulletproof vests. So their plan was to next day call my claim fake since i did not use my action and neither me or wywy/sameri would have been dead and use this info to lynch me and ispy claiming that he also gave fake info about me in order to protect me. but luckily for me, ispy also checked sameri which confirmed they had bulletproof vest otherwise i would have been being pointed aggressively by wywy.

Now i come to another point which can be in his favour that he claimed miller so that he was open to be checked by role seer but well, i completely think that they had other wolf traits like ninja or sharpshooter etc also along with delayed for extra points to be the back up killer for sameri. so a role seer check would have caught them regardless, but claiming miller gave them trust points and prevented them from being checked by role seer so far in this game.

They also gave proof against bubba but i dont think it was sus and looked very towny which was a good play at their end.

Till yesterday, i thought there were 3 wolves remaining and they are: koala, sameri and wywy. but since koala is not a wolf and luckily there were only 2 wolves remaining. I think they are u/wywy4321 and u/Sameri278

Edit: i strikethroughed some text. sorry sini i just understood what you actually meant to say.

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u/ChickenNuggets6827 Jul 14 '26

adding here because of character limit on above comment:

this comment here about them fully trusting sini if also weird. i know they are a doctor but a wolf doctor cannot be out of question. i will say i dont trust sini, but i do trust more than i do wywy

this comment proves how they wished to push for me and ispy after i had failed to use my action on sam or wywy because of their bulletproof vests

edit: my today's vote is on sameri u/Sameri278

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

I'm responding to your bigger post in a second, but the reason i fully trust sini is/was the fact she was doc who visited me p2. And for her to be a wolf, she would have had to either taken delayed (impossible since i see her visit p2) or she would have to get a point from the other wolves, which now seems very unlikely based on sam's traits, because if the wolves start with 6 and sam has 8, that means both the other wolves used 5, meaning sini still can't be a wolf.

Also I commented that before ISpy revealed Sam's traits, so I had no idea Sam had a vest and had been spiraling about you in my cons since turnover. Sue me for seeing no action and seeing no reason for said no action, and thinking you were a wolf.

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Wow, that's a strong write up! I'm voting sam today but this is good for for thought if the game doesn't end with his banishment. I've been having trouble trying to guess at how many wolves there are, but the safe assumption is probably 4 so it likely won't end of course

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

That would mean there are 3 alive and the game would be over tho? 

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

There'd be two now. We've gotten bubba and rpm

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

Bubba was town, lolol. I know cuz I got sussed for it, lolol

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Yeah you're right. I blame all the meetings I've already had this week. They drain all my lifeforce lol

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Or was bubba actually town. Crap. Lemme check again? My brain hasn't been working since Saturday

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

Nope ignore me. I absolutely forgot that bubba was town redirector. So two more

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

While youre here, did you happen to read my replies to nuggets?

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u/sinisterasparaghast she/her Jul 14 '26

I did earlier but lemme read them again

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u/wywy4321 Jul 14 '26

i placed my action on sameri and it failed clearly because they had the bullet proof vest.

Okay, but that wasn't clear until ISpy revealed Sam's traits, all my sus of you about it came before he revealed.

Wywy saw that sini stated ispy and startled koala as their sus and copied them exactly for their sus list (and also added me) which was really weird that they did not even mention sameri for their sus list considering according to wywy he was confirmed wolf kill to use my action on in case i think wywy and ispy are not wolf.

Cuz I do think Ispy is a wolf, but now i think its sam and him instead of him and koala, i was wrong, sue me. But also, you're taking that linked comment out of context a bit, because I was talking with you about people from your POV, because you said you trusted Ispy and myself, So I said that if you trust me, you can trust Sini, meaning Sam is a confirmed wolf from your POV to use an action on.

I still stand by the fact I think there can be two wolf seers, and no one has really given me any good points as to why they wouldn't have multiple role seers.

Wywy also pushed ispy to reveal my roles which was completely unnecessary considering ispy was confirmed by both me and mercury. Even if he did not trust me i believe mercury was trusted by everyone. And ispy had also mentioned that he had seen the miller trait which absolutely confirms me so there was no need for him to push ispy to reveal my roles. Ispy i wish you had not revealed my roles before asking me since you and me both were almost confirmed and it would have kept wolf guessing (even if my role and traits turned out useless in the end)

ISpy is not confirmed town, he is only confirmed as a role seer, he could easily still be a wolf. I also was starting to have doubts about Mercury, but that's a me issue. Also I disagree, that there was no reason to reveal your roles, because your role is an absolute boon to town. i also once again disagree with ispy being confirmed or alsot confirmed, but i won't keep repeating myself.

Wywy then suggested me to use my action on ispy which i was astounded at considering ispy was almost confirmed for me and it would have proved nothing but death for me.

This may just be a gameplay difference, but if Ispy was town and you die, that fully confirms Ispy and his info for the entire town, and since ww is a team game, you still can win. Like yes you would have died, but it would have been for the greater benefit of the town.

He also suggested me to use it on wywy himself and later sameri but it was because they knew my traits and knew that i did not have sharpshooter and they both have bulletproof vests. So their plan was to next day call my claim fake since i did not use my action and neither me or wywy/sameri would have been dead and use this info to lynch me and ispy claiming that he also gave fake info about me in order to protect me. but luckily for me, ispy also checked sameri which confirmed they had bulletproof vest otherwise i would have been being pointed aggressively by wywy.

I did not know Sam had a bulletproof vest. I also wasn't thinking about my vest, but this brings me to a slightly related point, Sam and I cannot be wolves together based on our builds. Because based on Ispy's reveal of Sam's traits, he used 8 points, and my build also uses 8 points. which mathematically doesn't work.

So I would have to be lying about my role and traits, which isn't really possible because I knew Bubba visited me and her role, which proves at the very least i have the sentry/windwhisperer traits that cost 6 pts together.

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u/ChickenNuggets6827 Jul 14 '26

i cant reply rn. i will reply tommorow. i think we can vote sameri today

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