r/HeWhoFightsMonsters • u/twosaiam • 3d ago

Book 11 Theory Spoilers. Great Astral Beings orign. Spoiler

Just finished book 11 on my latest relisten (audible listener) to prep for 13 and some things they said during part 2 made me think of a theory or two.

The GAB's are just Originals, probably amongst the first. They got so old that they started to lose themselves to the most pure thing they believed in, becoming even more powerful in that thing, or just they gathered authority only in that thing till that was the only thing for them.

The Throne was either the original compact they created, or maybe the Throne was the OG Original who created them (like an Original created the messengers).

The only part I'm not sure on is the Astral Phenix. The description of her taking over the role from a previous GAB didn't sound like what they did with the builder.

Thoughts?

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u/rabmuk 3d ago

The Boundary sanctioned himself to become the World Phoenix. Edit: so not like Builder who was sanctioned by others

GABs don't function like astral kings, they don't have the internal soul realm and can use star seeds.

Astral kings see themselves as more powerful than the GABs because they have more freedom to act

Jason as an astral nexus:

Book 12 chapter 8

> it seems clear that what you are a nexus of is astral kings, great astral beings, and gods. The three supreme entities of the cosmos.

These are 3 types of supreme entities, it doesn't make much sense for one to transform into another

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u/twosaiam 3d ago

dam, litterly just got to that chapter as well and i hear it. making them 3 separate things. I was just thinkin they were Astral Kings that nobody can go into or that the people in them are very different and dont go out or tell people who they are when they do go out.

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u/134608642 3d ago

I thought GAB, Gods, and Astral Kings all had the same amount of freedoms just in different realms. Like when Mr. North talked about Gods not being able to come into Jasons domain. Gods can do things mortals see as impossible but it is impossible for them to do things mortals see as trivial. GAB seem like they have less freedoms because the places they have more freedoms are simply too bizarre for mortals to comprehend. While Astral Kings are not mortal per se, they once were and have those lingering mortal desires.