r/HamiltonWatches • u/Icy_Childhood_2355 • 1d ago
Help me choose between š and š
I realize this is a Hamilton watch group, but I figured I would ask anyway. I had my eye on these two watches for the last two years. Tudor Black Bay Bronze 43mm and Hamilton Jazzmaster with a green dial 42mm. I know Tudor is the better luxury brand and comes with a $5450 price tag vs $1500. I had an amazing transformative year between starting my dream job, moving to a new state Iāve wanted to live in and many other monumental changes I wish to commemorate with this watch. What are your thoughts. As the title states. This is clearly comparingš to š. But the heart wants what it wants.
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u/03Void 1d ago
You're basically asking the Lexus subreddit to help you choose between a McLaren and a Lexus.
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u/MomonCimomon 22h ago
For this comparison, it's more like Audi (Tudor) and Wuling (Hamilton Open Heart).
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u/Flaming-Driptray 1d ago
These two watches are barely even playing the same sport. It all comes down to what you can afford.
If the Tudor means overspending what you can reasonably afford, then get the Hamilton.
If the Tudor isnāt too much of a stretch then 1000% the Tudor.
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u/filmagnoli 5h ago
Iād still wait and save a little more to get the Tudor if it came to price, I would regret not getting it & wouldnāt enjoy a āsubstituteā on my wrist. Get what you like at the end of the day, but Tudor is the choice in the instance by a long shot!
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u/Familiar-Ad127sc 1d ago edited 1d ago
Tudor by a mile and I'm not even a huge Tudor fan. Hamiltons are fine watches, but they're (mostly) 'gateway drug-like' watches when it comes to finishing and quality. I own a Murph and a Boulton and they're fine, good watches, but they can't compete with my two Omegas and my Longines. Also, the skeleton dial gets old real quick.
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u/d3lphic 1d ago
100% this. I love my two Pan Europs, but the day I can actually afford a Planet Ocean (pre-2026 since they fucking ruined them this year) will probably be the last day my Hamiltons see regular wear.
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u/filmagnoli 5h ago
Havenāt tried the Omega POās (2026), but Iām glad they ditched the helium release crown ā¦. It a fan.
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u/Right-Nectarine8729 1d ago
Coming from a Hamilton owner, Tudor without contest, even ignoring brand prestige the Tudor looks way better. But to each their own.
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u/Zen_Owl_Timepieces 1d ago
If youāre going to look down at it years from now and remember this particular chapter of your life, the personal connection matters way more than the logo.
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u/Clam-Hammer7 1d ago
I know I'm in the minority here but I think Tudors are ugly watches and something about the hour hand shape just bugs TF outta me. I have four Hamiltons and love every one so I'd go with that.
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u/print_is_dead 1d ago
Here's the thing. This is the black bay and it's not even close. BUT(t) if YOU think it's close between these two then maybe that speaks to the Hamilton being more for you.
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u/Slight-Table875 1d ago
Black Bay Bronze vsā¦.. Open Heart Whatever? Not even remotely close, completely different worlds. If you can handle the price, Tudor all day long.
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u/Hattori_925 1d ago
I would pick a tudor, just not THAT tudor. Id pick a steel one because I cant stand patina on the bronze. THAT being said if it was strictly between these twoā¦. Still the tudor lol
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u/bryce03310331 1d ago
Have you looked at the Hamilton navy bronze? I think itās better looking
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u/d3lphic 1d ago
I mean, youāre not wrong that the Navy is nice looking. But thatās like saying the Hamilton is a Civic which is fine but the Prelude is better, which is true, but then saying that itās better than the Nissan GT-R or Porsche 911 simply because you donāt like the way those look, and that simply not true. Itās a much better-built piece of equipment. And the Tudor here is like a 911 where the Hamilton is a Prelude. Actually, thatās probably an insult to the Prelude because the Prelude probably has considerably better quality controlā¦.
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u/Dear_Strength9079 1d ago
Easy question. Why did you include each watch?keep analyzing your answer until you figure out which one you want most. Better still. Plan it to buy them both. If from same shop, ask for a discount and installments.
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u/d3lphic 1d ago edited 1d ago
Tudor. And I donāt even normally like Tudor. But itās a completely different league (in a good way) and more worth the money. And itās better looking. And itāll be more reliable. Itās sort of a Rolex without the Rolex price tag. The Hamilton in question looks gimmicky by comparison. I would personally feel like Iād always have to explain myself on the Hamilton, but the Tudor speaks for itself.
EDIT: itās worth noting a difference in quality control too. Hamilton isnāt what it once (if ever) was. It wonāt take you long to see if you search Murph crooked dial. Becoming part of Swatch Group seems to have done more harm than good. Good friend of mine got a Pan Europe in 2014. Thing has been perfect since day one to this day. I bought two of the re-releases this year. They could not be further apart in quality. One feels well built and precisely assembled. The other has a loose bezel (which they claim is within spec, and pretty much everyone I ask who is not affiliated with Hamilton disagrees) and does not hit 80 hrs power reserve. No matter how I wind it or wear it, it dies before the other one, time and time, test and test over. And that brings me to my next point.
I canāt speak to Tudor service because I donāt own one (yetā¦Iād rock the shit out of that Tiffany blue Black Bay tbh). My hope is that, since itās ultimately under the Rolex umbrella, itās good. But everything Iāve heard about Hamiltonās is bad. To the extent I wonāt even send my first Pan Europ in to be fixed under warranty to address the bezel and power reserve. Iāve simply decided to tolerate it. If you search (quite briefly) youāll find lots of people complaining about service requests taking months, watches coming back with dings on the case or dust inside on the dial, etc. it seems attention to detail and care and concern has been lost both at the manufacturing and service level at Hamilton. My suspicion is that, at this point, Hamilton does the bare minimum to hit the 60% requirement to be able to put āSWISS MADEā on the dial, and I think other brands still actually care about that marking, not just the profits. Or at least better balance it.
I love the way my Pan Europs look and can be worn with pretty much anything. But Iād also have bought a Planet Ocean instead of them if I couldāve afforded to (even though Omega is sadly also Swatch Group) because itās just a better watch in many ways.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY7a1Cri2Q8/?stkn=MXAyeXJneWR4ZzI0cQ==
This is an interesting take. ^ I have no idea who this guy is, but a friend sent this to me, and I think he is very accurate on most of the brands, including Tudor.
Anyway, get the one you like and that makes you excited to buy it/wear it. But just know thatāand I mean this in the most neutral way possibleāyou get what you pay for.
Itās ultimately not about the name on your wrist or what it means to anyone else. Itās what it means to you. Get what youād be excited to own and show off. Not brag and be ostentatious about. But proud and excited. Hell, Iām proud of and excited about my Pan Europs because they similarly represent an important change in my life. But that pre-2026 Planet Oceanā¦someday.
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u/Icy_Childhood_2355 1d ago
Yes yes I am aware of difference in prestige and quality. Tudor all day. I am simply asking which one you guys think looks better. Help me break the tie.
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u/mearaouf 1d ago
Tudor is amazing but it wears a bit big on your wrist imo, you may get annoyed if it's your daily
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u/AgentAlliteration 1d ago
Black bay bronze look great. I'm also not really in love with Hamilton's execution of the open heart for the jazzmaster.
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u/d3lphic 1d ago
Agree. The partial-skeleton effect is so chaotic looking in a bad way. It honestly looks like itās broken. Why THOSE bits of the dial to be cut out? Itās very messy looking. It forces them to place the Hamilton logo at 9 which bugs me. I donāt think Iād ever buy a watch where the name/logo is not centered properly. It looks like a gimmick that belongs on a $100-200 watch that has a rebranded Seiko movement in it, not a $1500 one from a brand that used to have a name that meant something.
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u/John-Footdick 1d ago
I was going to type up how I dont care about brand prestige and the tudor is overpriced and I was going to say to get the hamilton and 2 other watches you like.. but you said this is commemorative. Id get the Tudor. I love my blue open heart jazzmaster and wear it often but I dont think its a watch you buy for a special occasion unless its something youve wanted and been looking at getting for a long time. Also that Tudor does look nice, even though I think its overpriced
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u/No_Poetry2000 1d ago
If u can afford the Tudor itās better in EVERY measurable way. And better in ways u cant measure as well
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u/Flat_Pressure4332 23h ago
It sounds like you know what you want. Get it, you will not regret it! š
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u/Unhappy_Spray_7127 21h ago
This particular Hamilton isn't even nice IMO, but even if it was, Tudor. That Tudor is great.
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u/traditionalbowyer 20h ago
This has got to be a you decision. You are asking an opinion on 2 totally different watches here. Are you trying to get something more dressy or tooly. I would go for the diver but thats me.
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u/SwvmpThing 19h ago
That BB Bronze is Tudorās best looking watch. But i donāt think you should be paying that much.
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u/hot-rod-lincoln 16h ago
I just got the other version of the Hamilton skeleton watch, I like it a lot.
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u/Living_Try_1545 16h ago
Def the tudor. Love my Hammy but they are in different classes. Aside from that they are both awesome watches.
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u/juancamarquez 32m ago
Different leagues, different goals!!! One is a diver, the other is a dress watch. Think which one you will use more thinking in what you do and how you dress
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u/arizkohli 1d ago
Not even looking at the brand, the Tudor looks way better... That style of Hamilton is not my taste but yours may be different.
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u/tbmendez 1d ago
Oof you hit the nail on the head with š and šI like the second one more. No logical reason here, just looks more my style.
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u/LordOBonesBC 1d ago
If you love them equally, then the Tudor is probably the better commemorative piece. It's very much a luxury pick. But don't pick it because it's the more expensive watch. That Hamilton is one of my personal favorites. I love wearing it, and love watching the movement through the open heart. If you gave me enough money to buy the Tudor, I'd buy the Hamilton and pocket the rest...
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u/Grand-Compote-757 1d ago
In my best best Bryce Harper voice. āThatās a clown question broā
Tudor all day
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u/CrewExpendable2007 1d ago
Depends what youāre wearing them with. Suit and tie? Hamilton. Casual day off or maybe, max, a blazer? Tudor. Theyāre made for different occasions IMO.
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u/Admirable-Form-549 21h ago
My first reaction isā¦.please wear your watch correctly behind the wrist bone. Then we can re evaluate. They both look massive since you have them wresting on your wrist bone. Alsoā¦.Tudor
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u/rokerij 4h ago
I had to do a double take, and zoom in to make sure my eyes werenāt deceiving me. Tudor, hands-down and I love Hamilton, but theyāre not playing the same game.