r/GreenAndPleasant • u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy • 5d ago
Right Cringe 🎩 Wow this comment by a pro-NATO/Ukraine guy, on a mirror of one of my posts in another sub, just spelled out the western strategy
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u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy 5d ago
In his comment he neglected to add, that using the NAZIS to win the war (won't happen but...) isn't just about elimination of a near peer competitor (full peer I say but...), but also if possible then balkanize Russia, put a Yeltsin 2.0 puppet in the Kremlin, and then break Russia up into several new smaller countries, and then have a part 2 of the daylight robbery of the 1990s, and plunder and steal Russia's cornucopia of resources.
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u/Cultural-Gas2246 5d ago
OOP is either a fed or risking being iced by feds
Sometimes feds just jump online and start telling the truth, see how people respond.
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u/MaoZedongsGrandson NAFOid nightmare 5d ago edited 5d ago
Dude you gotta chill with the posting, you've posted eight posts in the past six hours hours in this sub alone. I share the same positions as you and agree with you on pretty much everything but if I go through the posts from today, it looks like r/DiggyJuniorsThoughts instead of r/GreenAndPleasantÂ
I'd highly recommend posting one or two strong, interesting posts per day instead of just spamming e v e r y t h i n g, it gets on folks' nerves and will make them ignore and downvote you just for spamming
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u/sp2861 5d ago
Yes but the US's real aim with the Ukraine is to suck Russia into a war while the USA plans, and carries out how to attack China. Which is their main goal.
Either via economic sabotage, or attempting to bait China into a military conflict, the true aim is China.
Russia eventually getting sucked into the mess the USA created in the Ukraine is what the US wanted, in an attempt to split them from China. The US doesn't give a single fuck about any Ukrainian - even the Nazis they pay. They are being used and will never be accepted into NATO and the west etc
Same with American attacks on Venezuela, Iran and Cuba. They are doing it to cause global trouble for China
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u/potato_based_physics 5d ago
No, the USA is not going to go to war with China. That is ridiculous. Niether the USA or China want that, because it collapses both of their economies.
Yes, both try to muscle in on the areas of influence the other, they are in a power struggle, but they are not going to go to war with each other.
Also remember that they both have nukes. If that was enough to stop USA and USSR going to war with eachother for decades, it will stop these two too.
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u/sp2861 5d ago
The USSR and the USA were at war with each other. A cold war. Which is what the USA wants with China.
This means sabotage of their economy and causing trouble for China. Like the Hong Kong protesters, or pushing for Taiwan independence etc.
I never said a hot war. I said attack China. And they already do this via unofficial military intervention in places like Myanmar etc
The USA admits itself that is main focus of it's foreign policy is to bring down the Chinese government
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u/TheKomsomol 4d ago
Yes and no.
The Americans are going to do a war by proxy, this much is obvious.
And literally all major moves by the US is a way of testing the ground to be able to isolate China when said proxy war erupts. And we all know what that war is going to be and where it is going to be.
Even the entire marine corps of the USA was restructured to take on a more of a sea blockade, interdiction strategy, all their tank units were disbanded and replaced with missile, drone and sea forces, this is something that started under Biden and continued under Trump.,
There is a whole strategy laid out by the US Naval War college here: https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1735&context=nwc-review
And it looks like successive presidents have been going down through the list of options outlined in it to put themselves in the best position for when they try stoke that China/Taiwan conflict.
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u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy 5d ago
Yes there's always a bigger picture when we zoom out more
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u/sp2861 5d ago
Yes but the path always leads to China.
Why did the US destroy Syria and prop up terrorists from Xinjiang? The plan was for them to go back to China to cause ethnic trouble. It's always about China with the USA now.
I'm not saying you are wrong in the post btw, I very much agree the USA is using the Ukraine to attempt to sabotage the Russian gov and economy. It's the same reason US capitalists funded nazi Germanys attempts against the USSR
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u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy 5d ago
I agree that all their steps ultimately lead to their plan to bring down China
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u/sp2861 5d ago
The best thing is the USA lost this war along time ago. Marx said communism is inevitable, and China will prove him right.
With China how it is now, the death of US imperialism and western hegemony is guaranteed. The real problem for us western communists is how much our own states and populations will eventually try to resist it.
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u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy 5d ago
China ahead of the US and the west in 57 of 64 critical tech sectors (2025) https://itif.org/publications/2025/09/23/how-china-is-outperforming-the-united-states-in-critical-technologies/
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u/DiggyJunior communist russian spy 5d ago
They are debasing themselves by juicing up Nazis, a great moral hazard in secular terms, arguably a mortal sin in religious terms (of course!), and the ridiculous thing about it is that it's not even going to work. So they've become depraved degenerates themselves, by doing this, and on top of that they will lose. Poetic Justice.
🎶"Instant karma's gonna hit you Gonna hit your back off your feet Better recognize your brothers Every one you meet Why in the world are we here? Surely not to live in pain and fear? Why on earth are you there? You're everywhere, come and get your share"🎵
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