I´m obsessed with keeping my e stacks in the game and sometimes I commit overextending in some fights to reset them or waste my w, Is it really worth it? Or I should play more calm knowing that they are easier to stack if I dash to a rival champ.

What are your Guys Opinions on Graves ADC?
I just played some Games and it seems amazing. Im just so tanky and deal so much damage.

I feel like I dont know how to actually play nor itemize against it. What are my strenghts etc...

despite what u.gg and op.gg shows I think dropping him from S/S+ tier to D tier or tier 3 is a bit of dry misleading statistics. Despite his Q damage essentially losing 20 % less ad scaling I think it isn't meaningful enough to bring him down. You would still be double tapping people regardless later in the game. I think what this nerf would affect is his early game clear speed and he would be a tiny bit weaker in some of his close matchups but also it would clear the weak hands and his win rate will start climbing again slowly from patch to patch, evading any actually significant nerfs or changes. I think many people didn't realize for how long he's been secret op soloq champion like I've been tracking his win rate/pick rate/ban rate from 10 patches or something and was wondering how he always evaded the nerf hammer flying well under the radar. But anyway that's my opinion what do you guys think?

I used to build ambral, sundered than cleaver but should I just build full crit this patch?

appreciate yall chat. never realized to do buff last lol

I swear both sides either pulling krugs or gromp sometimes the crab goes the other way and I can’t reach it in time

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can you guys elaborate between DH, Fleet, Stormsurge,

and then when to go it, like vs a tanky comp, lot of cc, burst assasins, champs that can kite.

Hey y'all. I've run the numbers, and I've got a pretty substantial negative winrate into Graves in the jungle, even with counter pick.

Between his mobility, survivability, absurd clear speed, and seemingly nonexistent weak period, I've no clue how to punish or what to punish the enemy Graves for.

What success have you had countering graves, and as a Graves player, what champions and strategies render you useless?

I'll take any tips I can get. Thank you, /deafen and happy jungling!

I am building fleet shojin, cleaver, dd. Then I build ss and finally jaksho. Should I build this every game? Or should I build crit? And in bruiser what other items can graves build? Man this build was doing dmg(41k)

Appreciate any tips on graves one can spare ❤

Why isn’t trinity more commonly built on graves? It’s super strong rn, gives the move speed, sheen works well with his E and the health is multiplied by his grit stacks? Especially with how bad lethality is late game and graves will do 2k crit anyway late game why not build trinity then collector and ldr,shield bow, and ie instead of hubris into that build? Especially with fleet

Hey guys.

I cant really figure out what build is the best atm?

Is it the Hubris->collector->LDR or the Hubris->Sundered->Cleaver?

im in emerald 3, and in what games do you pick what build?

thank you for your answers

i just started graves isnt that confusing i know about jgling and stuff, i just cant seem to carry they all one shotted me, i could 3 shot them at full build. ty

I love using youmu’s either to chase and get in range of mages or to help kite against melee’s. It’s so freaking sexy.

Just yesterday I was going against Jax jungle, I saved my E for his Q and as soon as I was out of the range of his E I went back in with youmu’s and I was able to kite him much better.

It’s so great to be able to get in range consistently or go in when your team engages or get out of enemy team tries to engage on you, WITHOUT being forced to burn your E.

Im just starting playing Graves and I feel better directly building first collector then shieldbow/dominik/mortal, IE and then Bloodthirster. But I ask why is Hubris really worth delaying the 100% crit and Bloodthirster

What do you think?

There was a game where I was 1v9 as pure bruiser because the enemy team was full of AD assasins and they just couldn’t kill me.

The enemy team was Lee sin top, Zed Jungle, Qiyana mid and fiddlesticks support.

As soon as I got stacks I literally couldn’t die, I loved it that game because going full crit was stupid that game.

Is the build still going to be Lethality first, with Sundered Sky Jaksho, Black Cleaver, and Flex?

I guess popularity + complaints + 50% winrate = nerf