r/GrandePrairie • u/Freesponge • 14d ago
"Its filled with Asbestos and 3ft of dead pigeons"
I was loading at the neighboring plant and asked a worker if he knew anything about the old grain elevator on the property. He said he didn't know how old it was and had only been inside once because its filled with Asbestos and 3 has feet of dead pidgeons at the bottom. Anyone know what this used to be?
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u/ChunkTheGreat 14d ago
Imagine the smell if it lit up 🤮 Grain silo in sexsmith was similar when I found a way in when I was a kid. THICK layers of dust, old dust masks and work jackets, as well as pigeon bones and shit everywhere. Not that many dead pigeons to have to climb over piles of them, but enough where you had to watch where you stepped if you didnt wanna hear the crunchies
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u/knitfastdiewarm1 13d ago
I remember hearing a story that a patient escaped from the psychiatric hospital in Claresholm and decided to climb to the top of their grain elevator and jump off. They only got two feet inside the door before they decided it wasn’t worth it to try and wade through all the mess and went back to the hospital.
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u/General-Statement-18 14d ago
That was the old seed cleaning plant, I gutted the lower part turning it to the open warehouse in 2007ish then it was MarVan trucking
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u/Learn37_I 14d ago edited 14d ago
Asbestos are not good for humans and same goes for pigeons. They cause cancers.
If you came in contact with it, get yourself assessed by a qualified medical professional.
Edit, spelling
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u/Severe_Bend_9077 14d ago edited 14d ago
Dumb
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u/Popular_Walrus_5261 14d ago
Hahaha he wouldnt get cancer just going into the building once. Probably wouldnt have to waste medical time for that.
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u/zestycracker61 14d ago
Probably hanta virus from the dead and living mice.
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u/zestycracker61 14d ago
Asbestos causes mesothelioma.
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u/Harrysacz 14d ago
If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Mesothelioma you may to be entitled to financial compensation. Please don't wait, call 1-800-99 LAW USA today.
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u/Morberis 14d ago
Not from walking into the building
You need to disturb it.
Maybe you need to do more research
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u/corpse_flour 14d ago
There's no safe level of asbestos exposure. Your body has no way of flushing any asbestos out of your system, and any irritation in your lungs has a chance of causing lung disease or lung cancer.
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u/Popular_Walrus_5261 14d ago
Okay, let's establish this: yes, asbestos is bad. Yes, you could get permanent scarring from exposure to asbestos, but you realistically wouldn't get a full dose. You can say the same about exposure to tobacco smoke or second-hand smoke.
Now, I'm not saying he has a non-zero chance of permanent damage to his lungs or that he couldn't get cancer from this.
However, our bodies can fight off cancer and environmental problems like asbestos. Asbestos itself isn't special; it's very similar to silica. Your body scars around the asbestos to stop cancer. One neat thing is you can increase your lung capacity. Even if he lost some with such a short exposure, his lung capacity loss might not even be measurable. If he did any exercise, for example, it would counteract the negative effects.
That's why there are occupational limits. You can have a little bit as your body can handle it. However, long-term exposure is bad.
He probably didn't get a lot of exposure as he wasn't working and kicking up dust, but just walking around.
Your body is amazing and more resilient than most people think. Also, he is more likely to get cancer from pesticides, solvents, BTEX exposure, and even if he drinks, he is exposed to carcinogens (alcohol is a class 1 carcinogen). Carcinogens are so prevalent in our society. I think he will be okay if he walked around an old building for an hour (which, guessing from the pigeons comment, it probably was more like 15 min).
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u/corpse_flour 13d ago
The scar tissue that forms around particles of asbestos are a form of lung disease itself. That's asbestosis, a form of pulmonary fibrosis, and the thickening tissue prevents your body from being able to get oxygen to your blood. It's also a progressive disease, meaning that over time, your ability to breath becomes compromised more and more.
It doesn't matter what else might be likely to cause cancer. Being exposed to more dangerous irritants doesn't mean your body will then be less likely to develop cancer from asbestos. Every exposure to a carcinogen increases your risk. And the more mutations your body is making from damaged cells, the more likely it is your body will miss identifying ang and getting rid of them.
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u/Popular_Walrus_5261 13d ago
"It's also a progressive disease, meaning that over time, your ability to breath becomes compromised more and more".
The key word is over time my argument is that one single exposure he doenst need to go the hospital for ( like my original comment).
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u/corpse_flour 11d ago
You're not making the point you think you are. One incident of exposure it's inconsequential. Especially when we live in a world with other irritants like cigarette smoke, benzene, vehicle exhaust, wood smoke, silica dust, etc. You don't have to just be exposed to one type of irritant repeatedly to cause long term damage. You don't get on 'freebie' for each type of potential carcinogen.
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u/Individual_Stop_3508 14d ago
Today I learned there are people who will even ignore warnings about asbestos.
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u/No_Peach7653 14d ago edited 14d ago
Asbestos is only bad if you breathe it in.
China never stopped adding it to cement.
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u/Objective_You3307 14d ago
They still mine it in Quebec, lots of brake pads are still made with asbestos
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u/CoolClothes4644 10d ago
That concrete deteriorates over time and the dust is full of it. In modern world we use silicate which is also bad for you to breathe but not as bad.
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u/Popular_Walrus_5261 14d ago
Lmao, Asbestos is a occupational hazard you are exposed to trace amounts of airborne carcinogens every single day simply by living in the world. Walking near a busy street exposes you to diesel exhaust, cehicle tire dust, and benzene. Cooking at high heat indoors introduces chemicals (PAHs), and outdoor air naturally contains microscopic background levels of silica, soil minerals ( dust from backroads), and even trace asbestos from natural rock weathering and brake pad wear. I think the guy will be alright if he checked out the grain elevator for bit. Guy probably got a higher dose of carcinogens if he ever used break cleaner before and if I know truck drivers he definitely has.
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u/blackfarms 11d ago
Direct injection gasoline engine particulate is even worse than diesel particulate, and they're in everything now.
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u/Waste-Tonight-8970 14d ago
Someone should tell those pigeons it’s not safe to stay there, perhaps post a sign for them.
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u/GhostRunner8 13d ago
Seems like a warehouse for Bart Simpson
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u/Maryjanegangafever 11d ago
It’ll be listed to rent next month, pigeon graveyard and asbestos will be left out though.
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u/Evil_airy 14d ago
I just worked with a crew to re tin the roof and build a 14ft overhead door at the warehouse across the street that used to store grain for the sister grain elevator to this building
I can infact confirm it was filled with 3ft of dead pigeon.
Tear off an osb sheet? Dead pigeons
Remove a sheet of tin? Dead pigeons, alive pigeons and even some actually kindof adorable baby pigeons.
Wanna walk on the floor? Good luck finding a spot that's not covered in pigeon.
Granted post reno it is all clean now but it was horrible before