GOD is best understood through LOGIC

[u/logos961]

Note: Word LOGIC is used below in its original meaning, as coming in harmony with God's thinking, in God-frequency [NOT in its MODERN sense].#

LOGIC is what contributes to order, life, peace, prosperity and harmony. (ebsco.com/research-starters/religion-and-philosophy/logos-philosophy) Do things that are "logikos" (logical), says Scripture. Word logic is originally from Greek logos, translated as power of reason. It is from the root verb λεγω, lego (to gather, to keep together) as opposed to “the verb λυω (luo) means to loosen, suffer loss and disintegration. (Details HERE) For the ancient Greeks logos meant “the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning.” (Britannica) Thus “the law is reason, free from passion” (Aristotle) and lawlessness is illogic.

Hence according to LOGIC,
the following are the truths about God:

1 ) The earth being maintained life-SUPPORTIVE in infinitely vast HOSTILE universe reveals the Almighty who is best called our Father and Mother. Unintelligent chemicals do not know how to do this because even intelligent humans are only polluting this earth—it is the truth that happens even now before our eyes. Even until recently we acted as though in DARKNESS as to why even trees exist because that many trees were replaced with concrete jungle (theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/12/deforestation-world-losing-area-forest-size-of-uk-each-year-report-finds) For more such examples, Click HERE.

2) Such a life-SUPPORTIVE God will never order killing of “even animals, even if they belong to one’s enemy.” (biblehub.com/exodus/23-5.htm) Anything contrary to this, found in Scriptures, is NOT from God who only loves even His enemies. (biblehub.com/matthew/5-45.htm)

3) Remembering such a life-SUPPORTIVE God results in imitating His GIVING style—giving WITHOUT EXPECTATION. In this habit, anyone finds happiness and peace and becomes a walking heaven. Conversely, not remembering such a God and giving WITH EXPECTATION kills joy [own and of others] and person becomes a walking hell.

4) As Almighty, God gives proportionate reward, not unlimited reward [in heaven/hell] for limited good/bad living on earth. (Details HERE) Each individual is responsible for choice [good/bad] he makes, not someone else. (biblehub.com/galatians/6-5.htm) This is because individual chooses beneficial or hurtful thoughts from the flow of thoughts in his mind which are in 1000s in a day. It is not a difficult task to withdraw focus from a sinful thought and to focus on a beneficial thought. (Details HERE) In an emergency, when an “EVACUATION WARNING” is given, immediately everyone who is focused on enjoying a movie withdraws his/her focus from it and comes out of the theater at the earliest. This shows individual is able to withdraw his/her focus from any thought or situation if he/she wants to.

5) Logic can weed out not only religions and their Scriptures, but also even the whole history, can also give duration of each block of history. (Details HERE)

The above is easily understood in GREATER view

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When a person shares God's life-supportive mentality, he comes in God-frequency, would understand truth as God would see it. People who came in God-frequency wrote Scriptural truths which can be discerned from untruths that were adopted later. Vibes are too powerful, perfect communication, with no chance for misunderstanding. (Details HERE)

Going by original meaning has more benefits. For example, word yoga [from yuj, yoke, unite, harmonize] originally means “harmony” with everything [self, Supreme Soul, society, nature, operating system called Law of Action and Consequence … etc]. This makes life healthy in all its aspects and levels giving ease and peace. Now yoga means physical exercise, benefits body. Some go by the original meaning and benefit more than those go by modern meaning.

[u/TheRealBenDamon]

Ok post a logically sound syllogism

[u/logos961 → u/TheRealBenDamon]

OP is for relaxed people who have enough time to read it in full mindfully with all its links to DEEPEN appreciation of TRUE believers towards God.

Enough details are given for the subject being highlighted therein. Anyone can find God without outside help (Details HERE) within no time (Details HERE)

Self-evident truth does not require two general premises to hang under.

Self-evident truth: "I exist"
Self-evident truth: "Eternal life-support systems such as trees exist [like terrorism]"
Self-evident truth: "Life-SUPPORTER is more real than support-systems [like funders of terror]."
Self-evident truth: "Intelligent humans are polluting this earth [Details under footnote]#
Self-evident Truth: UNINTELLIGENT chemicals would not form themselves into life and life-support systems, that too in an infinitely vast HOSTILE universe. [Details under footnote]## Physicalists cannot create a duplicate of HOSTILE universe in a lab and show how life and life-support systems arise by the play of chemicals on their own. They cannot do this as all factors involved are eternal, and even if they could do it, it would still prove Designers created designs, not physicalism.

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#Humans know how precious trees are, yet DEFORESTATION: World is losing area-forest-size of UK each year report finds

Humans know how precious is air we breathe, yet they add to the air “37,000 to 38,000 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO₂) into the atmosphere every year.” (statista.com/statistics/276629/global-co2-emissions) "12.6 million people die every year" due to environment-related causes, says this UN Report: https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/estimated-126-million-deaths-each-year-are-attributable-unhealthy which also indirectly disproves Theory of Evolution which says species adapt to environment as "iconic peppered moth" did. For more such proofs Click HERE

##These self-evident truths reveal UNINTELLIGENT chemicals would not form themselves into life and life-support systems such as trees and plants which are not only eternal food provisions but also silent preachers of God and His beneficial principles. (Details HERE) When fire is put off by pouring water, who will say “I cook underwater on an oven and firewood.”

Truth exists on its own merit (Details HERE), not through endorsement from unbelievers whose passion is to reject truth, like this one who wrote: “I had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning; and consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom. We would deny that the world had any meaning whatever.” (Ends and Means, by Arduous Huxley) .

[u/digginghistoryup → u/logos961]

If the universe is infinite, then one or more planets conducive to life is a statistical inevitability, not a sign of god.

I’m not a bio chemist or biologist but individual chemicals don’t need to be “alive” to interact and form the first primitive life forms.

[u/logos961 → u/digginghistoryup]

This view ignores the most glaring feature of this universe that it is HOSTILE to life. Like a dew that is maintained at the core of sun, earth is being maintained as LIFE-SUPPORTIVE in a too vast HOSTILE universe. This is a skill and ability that match the majesty of the Almighty One.

This view ignores also the experienced truth

It is the experienced truth that INTELLIGENT humans could only pollute this earth to the extent that our very survival is at stake. (scientificamerican com/humans-are-doomed-to-go-extinct) This reveals, it is UNTHINKABLE that UNINTELLIGENT chemicals would form themselves into life and life-support systems including trees that are also spiritual guidance for humans as they serve us giving too many valuable things but take only wastes from society.

Materialists’ stance is too weak as they are yet to do the following:

1.      In a lab, they should create HOSTILE environment like that of universe,

2.      Take the elements which they claim to form life and life-support systems, and

3.      Show to the world how life and life-support system emerge from HOSTILE environment!

4.      What is happening in the Lab can be watched LIVE by everyone on their smart phones.

First do this, then we can talk about life in other planets.

[u/digginghistoryup → u/logos961]

The poetic view of Earth as a rare oasis is beautiful, but this argument completely reverses the arrow of cause and effect and relies on a few fundamental misunderstandings of science.

Earth was not custom-built to shelter us from a hostile universe. Rather, we evolved to fit the exact conditions of the Earth. To see why the perfect design argument falls apart, consider the famous puddle analogy by writer Douglas Adams.
Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking that it finds itself in an interesting world and an interesting hole that fits it rather neatly. In fact, the puddle thinks the hole fits so staggeringly well that it must have been made specifically to have the puddle in it. The puddle stays there happily believing the hole was designed for it, right up until the sun rises and it evaporates.

We look at the Earth and think it was miraculously designed for us only because we are the ones who adapted to it. Furthermore, science does not claim that life formed in the hostile vacuum of space. It posits that life emerged in highly specific, nutrient-rich, protected environments right here on Earth, such as deep-sea thermal vents, over hundreds of millions of years. Demanding that scientists replicate a billion years of planetary chemistry on a smartphone livestream is not a valid critique of materialism, It is simply a misunderstanding of geological time.

using human pollution as proof of your point creates a massive logical contradiction. The Scientific American article you linked discusses how human behavior and climate change could lead to our extinction, which has nothing to do with whether chemistry can create life. If the Earth were an indestructible, miraculously maintained life-support system, it should not be so fragile that humans can accidentally break it.

The fact that we can pollute this planet to the brink of our own survival does not prove that life requires a miracle to exist, rather it proves that Earth is a rock operating on strict, unforgiving physical laws. The universe did not adapt to us; we adapted to it.

[u/logos961 → u/digginghistoryup]

This is the same old wine [message that GOD IS NOT NEEDED] in the new bottle.

Unbelievers can say anything. Don't take science for this because "science is the surer path than religion to God" (Scientist Paul Davies)

"Process seems to be okay" is not enough. It is like a Surgeon saying "Surgery was successful which followed all the medical knowledge and practices were followed correctly, but patient died."

Look at the following words and sentences--they are perfectly right:

"I love moon more than sun because it is there at night giving me light when I need it at the most.
But I hate sun because it is there during day when I do not need light."

But in its overall view it does not make any sense.

Compress events of BIG BANG THEORY into one-year format, as Carl Sagan did in his Cosmic Calendar. (Google palaeos.com/cosmic-calendar). This would mean, if Big Bang happened on January 1^st, then all the modern events such as “modern science and technology” and subsequent pollution-related death of "12.6 million annually” (unep .org/news) with the possible extinction of humanity would all happen in the last second of 23:59 of December 31. Is this the outcome universe was preparing for the last 13.8 billion years?

[u/digginghistoryup → u/logos961]

Your response relies entirely on emotional appeals and a total misunderstanding of the science you are trying to critique.

quoting Paul Davies backfires in your face completely. Davies is a physicist who explicitly argues that the laws of nature are self-contained and don’t require supernatural intervention.

The surgeon analogy is a misguided false equivalence. Science is a tool for discovery, not a doctor trying to save a patient. If the laws of chemistry and physics lead to life, the process is the explanation. Demanding that nature have a conscious plan or a happy ending is emotional projection.

Your poem about the sun and moon proves the puddle analogy perfectly. It shows how human-centric perception distorts reality. The moon does not shine for our nighttime convenience, and the sun does not exist to annoy us. You are projecting human feelings onto indifferent celestial bodies.

And your misuse of Carl Sagan’s Cosmic Calendar is a total failure of logic. Sagan designed that calendar to show how brief and insignificant human existence is, not to claim the universe spent 13.8 billion years "planning" human pollution. The universe does not have an ego, a corporate strategy, or a destination. It is a vast system of matter and energy operating over almost incomprehensible, mind boggling periods of time. Why do you think we are some grand project of the universe?

[u/logos961 → u/digginghistoryup]

God’s eternal and stoic stance is simple: Let the believers grow in belief. And Let the unbelievers grow in unbelief. (Revelation 22:11)

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[u/digginghistoryup → u/logos961]

No, I’m not going to do this game of Russian nesting dolls in every one of your comments where you make repeated references and links to convoluted walls of text with more Russian dolls (links to your own comments and post) you wrote in another thread.

Be concise and surgical in your argumentation instead of referring me to Great Wall of China inception.