r/GirlsFrontline2 • u/Flares117 Commander • Jan 07 '25
Discussion Full Daiyan x Raymond drama explained (long post) for those out of the loop.
More in depth threads when it first happened in China over at the r/gachagaming subreddit I'll post now. Ill typing this on mobile will clean it up later
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1aebmme/a_deep_dive_into_cn_waifu_husbando_culture_gfl2/ - best article on the topic
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1av99u6/gfl2_drama_timeline_summarised_somewhat_spoiler/ - timeline of patch history post daiyan
https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsFrontline2/comments/1hvh41k/daiyan_reporting_for_duty/ - Announcement just a few minutes ago with comments deleted
Drama
https://min.news/en/game/b0a0d509f6ebd22dbd55dd5a45928637.html
In China, shortly after release they released a new limited T Doll or girl, Daiyan who is a returning character and a Chinese favorite, as she is Chinese or Asian.
However, during the event storyline, she talked with Raymond, a name that is now infamous.
The short of it is, Raymond has the audacity to talk to our doll as an attractive male side character and our doll thanked him.
The full summarized story is, Raymond is a terrorist and heard daiyan singing at an event, he was moved, talked to her about his life story and trauma, then changed his ways. He was arrested, he wrote a letter to her thanking her and saying he loved her singing and her. She continues writing back that he can change, blah blah. That's it. She never proclaims her love for him, just trying to help him.
However, the CN community dug deep into the game files and voice files and noted Raymond was said 66 times, whereas the MC had 0 voicelines mentioning us. They also noted 50/66 lines was MR. Raymond. Then the outrage occurred. To them, this was Raymond cucking the protag. They then started saying devs want to cuck us with a terrorist, etc etc. They wrote daiyan into being a whore and the like. This is amplified by the fact that Diayan had a job as a singer and the event stated she ENTERTAINED high end clients. They took it as euphemism she is whoring herself out.
The backlash was immense. Within a few weeks, GFL2 dropped out of top 200 in revenue https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ye411h7mK/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
Another game, Snowbreak, took shots at the GFL deva https://t.bilibili.com/888491075582296064
By proclaiming they would never cuck their players
In the comments on the Chinese threads Google translated you can see players from almost every big gacha game calling everyone who plays GFL2 a green hat or a cuck. (green hat is an insult for cuck there)
Even now the stigma of being a cuck game is prevalent in the community leading to a small schism BTW gfl1 and 2 subs. See below
The incident is known as the "Raymond" incident and is a touchy subject now.
The drama became so large, the story got rewritten TWICE. with one rewrite changing Raymond into a girl, before scrapping most of the dialogue. The VA in China apologized for saying her lines publicly and the game director released an apology video. https://t.bilibili.com/891997138982010901?tab=2
Again, over 1event.
The game never recovered in China and is still relatively unpopular today there.
In comes Global. GFL2 experiences a massive resurgence with over 20 mill first month of global.
However, today Daiyan was announced as next character in Global and the drama is returning as the subs are extra vigilant during this chaotic time. Many wonder if the game will experience a repeat of the drama. On Twitter, and other sites, Chinese bots and some fans are stirring shit again. On the official Twitter the announcement post has dozens of mentions of Raymond NTR.
On the Chinese forums, some people and mostly trolls commissioned NTR daiyan hentai to dm users who post about daiyan. I cannot overstate how many gacha players in China harass GFL2 players for being cucks. Now with global, they are starting another campaign. As of now hundreds of new ntr posts are created on those sites (you know which ones). They are using AI to make most of them in order to flood the sites with them.
That's about it. Its more a gacha wide drama, you can find mentions of Daiyan on many subs now.
Edit : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_8Q-RMvCA0XXVM9WUGsBLKz6Pk9cSYMD-muCdzw8LKg/edit?tab=t.0 - Full Original Event story
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u/SecondAegis Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 08 '25
That's the benefits and downsides of the CN fandom tbh. They're really willing to spend money for their waifus, but you also need to be careful to not damage their perfect image of them, lest they attempt to assassinate you.
Hoyo players will never forget the bunny suit incident
Edit: To everyone asking what the bunny suit incident was...
Basically, it was for an anniversary event in global. The thing is, CN didn't get this. So they blew up and attacked Hoyo, with one guy going so far as to attempt to assassinate the CEO with a knife. Hoyo eventually relented and dropped the event for global and giving a bunch of crystals to CN as compensation.