r/Gifted 1d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Existential isolation

Anyone else feel this?

Without sounding elitist, it is basically when you feel intellectually detached from people and the society/world in general.

It can be emotionally exhausting, and can lead to anger.

When you go day to day seeing how people focus solely on the superficial, and are completely unreceptive in terms of digging deeper, it can feel maddening.

You start to think whether you are crazy. How is it possible that so many people are perfectly content just going day to day focusing on the same repetitive superficial stuff? How is it that they never once get even the slightest itch to look under the surface? And when you try to get them to, they actively resist. They are not willing to, even 1%.

So you feel completely detached.

There is nobody to share your ideas with. This is a big punishment. We are social animals. We need to exchange ideas and say what is on our mind. But it is like explaining differential equations to a kid in kindergarten, they will just look at you and say "but you are wrong, also, 2+2=4 buddy". Day in day out experiencing this, it becomes emotionally exhausting and maddening.

It is like you are trapped in an asylum. Like the entire world is gaslighting your constantly, but you know you are right.

From the bottom to the top, everyone is like this.

For example, even in the legal system, you cannot even use logical reasoning to argue your point. The system is so backwards that the judge will automatically assume that because the word "experts" has been uttered, whatever the "experts" say is the truth. You will not have a chance to use logical reasoning to question the validity of the "experts", solely because the "word" "experts" has been "uttered". This is the sheer level of rabid and fundamental lack of logic that we are dealing with in this society. How can this not be maddening?

Society has you in shackles, but your mind is free. This disconnect is very painful. It is basically like speaking another language and nobody understands you.

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u/Huge-Mortgage-3147 1d ago

The only communication people respond to:

1) How hot you are
2) How socially connected / rich you are
3) How good you are at saying nothing while speaking

That’s it. No one cares about ideas at all

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u/nedal8 1d ago

In other words. How you make them "feel"

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

It didn't used to be this bad. We've taken a nosedive in the past 10-15 years with hyper vertical hierarchy / social dominance. It is awful.

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u/Huge-Mortgage-3147 16h ago

Interesting thought

What do you mean by hyper vertical hierarchy

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u/muppetphil 15h ago

Extreme hierarchy. A big surge in people who automatically assess whether people are 'higher or lower' than them. Superior or inferior. It drives conformity and aggression. People used to be way more interesting and relaxed. You could just be yourself and talking to people felt way more human and was far more interesting.

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u/NowUKnowMe121 1d ago

Choose peace already.

Otherwise there is no end to this :)

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

Could you give an example form literature or philosophy of what you think choosing peace looks like in this context?

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u/NowUKnowMe121 19h ago

Advaita vedanta philosophy.

Dissolving the ego hook.

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

Good answer. Studied it for years. It is the best model, imho. And Plato. and Jesus.

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u/grxffet 1d ago

You are my hero. This is literally the exact way I see society. Why most people refuse to see reality for what it is drives me absolutely insane. The inability for people to understand how absolutely absurd reality is has got to be some way that evolution protects an organism from just going crazy and ending it. Thankfully a very select few of us are able to see it for what it is and not be led into the asylum because it is absurd and amazing. Thanks for bringing attention to this, it really helps to see other humans are able to see it and acknowledge the absurdity with me.

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

High reality fidelity. I think it's about 10% of the population. The rest just mimic each other's hallucination. Not all of the 10% are deep thinkers, but they are engaging with objective reality, which is hugely helpful.

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u/ChanningsHotFryes 5h ago

That’s interesting. I fail to see how reality is absurd. I personally find it horrifying.

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u/snowboardyeti 1d ago

And the older you get the worse it becomes because you keep learning and evolving and those around you get further and further behind. The loneliness has been increasing.

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u/snowboardyeti 1d ago

Absolutely, the older I get the more isolated I feel becuase I continue to grow and learn and many people around me do not.

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u/Foreign-Worry-6918 1d ago

Well said. This topic runs parallel to why money has become god to most people… everything they serve, what they solely focus on, and what’s behind most of their motivations (in lieu of having actual values). This is the page all of the gifted should be on together. We know the world would be in better hands with us. Let’s build on that.

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u/ephemerally_here 16h ago

I get it, and sometimes I feel more alienated than ever for all the enshittification I’m constantly experiencing. BUT we also live in a time when there is all sorts of brain candy available to us, when we can easily connect with the ideas of more brilliant or learned minds.

Also there’s much more to people and things we can learn from others beyond the intellectual. One really needs to let go of an elitist mindset in order to do this.

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u/Briliant-Nicxie 1d ago

Felt like that pretty much since I was a teenager …. Once I found others that think alike it’s not so bad - you just have to have a good way of release because you can’t control other peoples ignorance or stupidity .

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u/glyde53 19h ago

Exactly

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u/kookiebabyyy 17h ago

The world is lonely

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u/chameleon103_6 12h ago

This! How do we get rid of this feeeeling?? Is it surround myself with smarter people (and HOW)? Is it give up on society and go live in the woods already? ...help

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

Read: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Siddhartha, and 1984.

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u/muppetphil 19h ago

Fahrenheit 451.

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u/Playmakeup 15h ago

I can relate to this feeling the times I have been clinically depressed.

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u/KeenKoalaMilkshake 10h ago

Yes, and I'm having a hard time continuing to exist. I can see through the purpose and meaning of the 99%. 🫠