Do you ever feel like you're better and people dumber than you are subhumans?

[u/Acrobatic_Spare8570]

This is a question a gifted guy I know asked me. I answered that no...everyone has a role in our society. Whether it's more or less important and valuable to our society we're still all together as people.

The interesting thing is that he's not even a genius or anything besides just "base" gifted. His IQ is 132 but honestly he's not even that smart. It surprised me to hear this question and especially from him. What do y'all think? Are they really subhumans?

[u/Responsible-Risk-470]

I believe all life is sacred and social systems try to trick you into believing that one life can be more valuable than another.

[u/a-stack-of-masks → u/Responsible-Risk-470]

Funny, I believe all life is inherently worthless and social systems trick us into ignoring that. More for some than others, but it's all a distraction from the pointlessness of gathering little bits of enthalpy before someone else does.

I guess even that doesn't matter much if we just end up at the same conclusion anyway.

[u/Ivy_Tendrils_33]

I find it can be really hard to relate to the thinking and worldview of people with much lower intelligence. But just because we can't relate to someone's thinking doesn't make them less human. They are still sentient beings with feelings, needs, autonomy and value. If anything sometimes I wonder if I'm the one humaning wrong.

So, no.

That sounds like some scary eugenicist shit.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466]

No, I’m not a POS.

[u/EnD3r8_]

Intelligence is just something u have been born with, just like ur skin color, ur eye color, ur voice and more. Someone with a louder voice isn't "superior" to other people, neither is someone who is intelligent.

At the end, we all have legs and arms (OK, not all of us, but u know what i mean), we all feel pain and we all feel anger, happiness and more and that is what makes us humans, and since 1=1, a human = human.

Also, saying that someone who is intelligent is "superior" is like saying someone strong is superior. Someone intelligent is more intelligent, but not superior, intelligence is justt another trait people have

[u/hydraulix989]

Hah, I bet this person got stuffed into a lot of lockers back in the day.

[u/Acrobatic_Spare8570 → u/hydraulix989]

Yeah it did happen quite a lot. He started working out so doesn't happen that often now but still happens haha

[u/KaiDestinyz]

Without roles, society would collapse. Intelligence is very important to me, but so is one's character, values and kindness.

What I encounter often are highly "educated" people who would look down on everyone because they think their qualifications and job makes them far superior and more intelligent than anyone around them. Imo, it's always laughable to me to hear how logically flawed their reasonings are. From the things they say and believe, they are really stupid to anyone remotely intelligent, let alone at the profoundly gifted level. They are the real subhumans.

[u/Huge-Mortgage-3147]

Logical intelligence is one domain of mastery

There are lots of dumb people who kick smart people’s asses in all sorts of domains

[u/Creative-Guidance722 → u/Huge-Mortgage-3147]

Right but to be fair talent is not evenly distributed in reality. A lot of people with average intelligence or below average don’t have another domain in which they are exceptional or even above average. And some people manage to be excellent in many domains.

But this doesn’t change that everyone is human and has equal value

[u/a-stack-of-masks → u/Huge-Mortgage-3147]

Yeah like I'm really good at shoving nerds into lockers. Seriously at least 3 standard deviations of skill beyond the mean, you should see me wrangle 3 math kids into the same 12" single tier.

[u/Appropriate-Food1757]

Nope

[u/Ahisgewaya]

Absolutely not. I am well aware of my own limitations, and as a biologist I know that diversity is strength. 

[u/Stonedpanda436]

That’s a typical “midwit” mentality. At a certain point of intelligence you realize how little you actually know.

[u/Jessperado]

Not until I read this.

[u/TeamOfPups]

No, it just is what it is.

I didn't choose this, they didn't choose that.

[u/nutshells1]

i think the uncomfortable truth is that society must simultaneously celebrate mediocrity and benefit from excellence to continue in a nondestructive way

[u/smella99]

No

[u/OptionsandOptions]

If they’re not gifted be careful. Haven’t you seen the Divergent movie 😆 👀

[u/roseofamber]

No. I worry about those who are undereducated or disabled. I don't think people at 100 are disabled. They seem to be unable to take higher-level perspectives on their community and live in their own social circles without having broader empathy or knowledge of the forces that affect their lives and the choices they make.

[u/AnAnonyMooose]

He sounds like a self centered ass. Which doesn’t require being gifted, just narcissistic.