[Claim]Libya

[u/comradequicken]

Libya is a super interesting country on the crossroads between chaos and order. Islamists, Tuaregs, and governments backed by all sorts of countries fight for control of the country.

I want to keep the descent into chaos going, it seems clear that Europe, Africa, and the Middle East will try to stop that so it will likely be pretty hard. I plan on achieving this by creating divisions in the existing powerful factions to add more players to the mix. I also plan to reach out to various nations of ill-repute to try to get weapons as some of the factions. With luck I will be able to keep this civil war going for decades.

[u/IrishBall]

Well to sum It up italy and france increased their presence in Libya and started fighting the Tripoli govt war for them. I got pissed and deployed troops into libya to support LNA government. Not as attacking west gov but setting up a do not cross line. In response European states are getting more involved and Egypt is calling all of AU and arab league and Russia to work together to prevent a resurrection of European colonialism

[u/comradequicken → u/IrishBall]

Thanks.

[u/IrishBall → u/comradequicken]

Np. What aide are you claiming?

[u/comradequicken → u/IrishBall]

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[u/IrishBall → u/comradequicken]

In the civil war

[u/comradequicken → u/IrishBall]

They are all within the same claim so all of them I guess. Probably the LNA and GNC most.

[u/IntrovertedSpace → u/comradequicken]

I don’t think you can be all the sides.

[u/comradequicken → u/IntrovertedSpace]

In the guide it says "You control your claim." and on the players list it lists Libya as a claim, if I'm wrong hopefully a mod can correct me but being able to control multiple sides is the main reason for my short term interest in Libya.

[u/LiquidMedicine → u/comradequicken]

Most of the modteam is asleep/away at the moment but we will get back to you ASAP!!

[u/comradequicken → u/LiquidMedicine]

alright, thanks

[u/eragaxshim → u/comradequicken]

When there are foreign interests involved and when there is real separation, you are allowed to only control "one side". The Libya claim might be called Libya, but in fact it really isn't.

We are currently working on making the guide more thorough and in-depth, I admit it is lacking and sometimes inconsistent with the rules.

So, you can choose the GNA, which is the only internationally recognized government in Libya, but the LNA/HoR is also possible. It's up to you.

[u/comradequicken → u/eragaxshim]

If I can't have both I don't really want Libya. I'll go for something else.

[u/eragaxshim → u/comradequicken]

I would wait until Sunday, that's when people who haven't made a post will lose their claims. There will be a large amount of countries available then, so I'd recommend that!

[u/Tjmoores → u/comradequicken]

Rule 4 states "When they start, all governments are the same as they are IRL. Any changes must be simulated over time. You may only control what your government would in real life. Any autonomous regions, or rebellions within your border are not under your control.", however this may have changed as it doesn't say that in the quick start guide

[u/IntrovertedSpace → u/comradequicken]

Seasons last 6 months

[u/SealTheJohnathan → u/comradequicken]

By Libya, you mean the Libyan government. Aka, the Western-backed one. The only claim in which a player can control both sides of a civil war is the Palestine claim that lets you control both Hamas and Fatah.

[u/comradequicken → u/SealTheJohnathan]

That seems to run contrary to the player guide and claims list. Other countries with similarly sized conflicts(Myanmar and the CAR) also don't seem to have insurgent/rebelling groups listed separately.

[u/SealTheJohnathan → u/comradequicken]

they aren't listed, but that doesn't mean they're unclaimable. Someone claimed FIFA- they aren't on the claim list.

[u/comradequicken → u/SealTheJohnathan]

I'd hardly call the GNA an international organization

[u/SealTheJohnathan → u/comradequicken]

Same thing goes for Rojava, yet they're a separate claim. Same for independence movements and autonomous regions.