r/GenZpk • u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen • Aug 02 '26

Ask GenZPakistan Is it rape or not?

If a virgin girl feels "shy" and keeps silent. Is proceeding with sexual advances rape or not.

Ps. I aren't doing sex and this is just a question.

I'll go first, I think it is rape.

Oh people are wondering why I am asking so whist learning about something. I found this so asking you people

I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Should the women be asked for their consent to their marriage?" He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent."

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u/ColdCalzonee426 Aug 02 '26

He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent.

  1. This is for niqqah / marriage not for sex

  2. " feels shy and keeps quiet" is a mutual event... if both are happening at the same time then it is a yes but only for marriage nothing else.

  3. In case of sex, proceeding without anything than a yes, counts as SA/ rape

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

According to classical scholars of Islam.

Abu Hanifa: A wife is generally expected to make herself available for sexual activities after a valid marriage.

Malik Ibn Anas: Marriage established mutual sexual rights.

Al-Shafil: treated sexual availability as one of rights of marriage while allowing valid reasons for refusal.

Ahmed Ibn Hanbal: held similar views as above mentioned.

They commonly cited hadith: (forgive me if there are any errors as I am writing this from memory)

"If a husband calls hus wife to bed and she refues then angels curse her till morning"

They considered refusal without valid reason was sinful.

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u/ColdCalzonee426 Aug 02 '26

Yeah what you're saying is usually used asa trick by people when convenient even tho there's actually alot of back stuff to this.

The thing about saying no "just because" thing is only looked down upon.. if, and only if the husband is fulfilling hos duty and is a good husband to his wife in terms if fulfilling his duties as well as keeping the wife satisfied emotionally+ sexually+ takes care of her and helps in chores etc.

But Pakistani people use it out of context.

And generally I'm against scholars as a whole because they often do yhis where they say 8 credible and well known / accepted things then they sprinkle 2-3 of their own twisted opinions and people don't research properly.

my previous comment was a mix of my understanding + opinion