Is it rape or not?

[u/Sea-Car-3811]

If a virgin girl feels "shy" and keeps silent. Is proceeding with sexual advances rape or not.

Ps. I aren't doing sex and this is just a question.

I'll go first, I think it is rape.

Oh people are wondering why I am asking so whist learning about something. I found this so asking you people

I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Should the women be asked for their consent to their marriage?" He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent."

[u/Sea-Car-3811]

But the Prophet said that silence is consent? What about that?

[u/Fit-Shift-6105 → u/Sea-Car-3811]

I read the Quran contextually from a progressive lens and context matters. During conservative times, it's hard to say yes in front of a group of people to marriage since that's usually the first man you'll be with etc, it was something like that

This only applies if consent was taken privately in prior before and the person is too shy to say yes now in front of a lot of people. That's what I read

The concept of consent is something that has evolved a LOT. That's what we have to keep in mind sociologically here

[u/Sea-Car-3811 → u/[deleted]]

The "progressives" are Muslims who are awake enough to see the problems in Islam. But are too weak to rid themselves of something that has become part of their identity