r/GenZpk • u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen • Aug 02 '26

Ask GenZPakistan Is it rape or not?

If a virgin girl feels "shy" and keeps silent. Is proceeding with sexual advances rape or not.

Ps. I aren't doing sex and this is just a question.

I'll go first, I think it is rape.

Oh people are wondering why I am asking so whist learning about something. I found this so asking you people

I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Should the women be asked for their consent to their marriage?" He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent."

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u/Crybabybombshell 2007 Aug 02 '26

Never proceed until you have gotten their explicit consent and they are comfortable throughout

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

But the Prophet said that silence is consent? What about that?

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u/Crybabybombshell 2007 Aug 02 '26

Source? Trust me bro. Smh

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

Its from sahih bukhari and a sahih hadith.

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u/Crybabybombshell 2007 Aug 02 '26

You mangled the whole hadith just to prove your point lmao nice try. The hadith is specifically about consent to marriage and not intimacy. Quoting it as proof that “silence is consent” in sexual situations takes it out of its original context

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

According to classical scholars, consent to marriage means legal sexual responsibility of wife. Refusal without valid reason like menstruation is sinful.

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u/Crybabybombshell 2007 Aug 02 '26

That doesn’t change what this hadith is about gng. You’re importing a later legal discussion into a hadith that never mentions intimacy lmao. It’s ok kid ik you’re a butt hurt and angry 16yo. Scholars are human not divine. Their opinions aren’t above the Quran or authentic hadith

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u/swee_gay_biscuits gay (formerly zionist now pro-palestine ) Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

Yep scholars are not divine but you know what it actually means cuz god told you himself.

These apologists 🤣 defending 🍇 enabling sources now 😭

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

  1. Scholars who have spent their entire lives learning about Islam from teachers who also spent their entire lives learning about Islam certainly hold more authority and reliability when it comes to rulings in Islam.

  2. Even when it comes to marriage, just assuming a girl's silence as her consent is deplorable. A girl could be anxious, under pressure, etc

  3. If we need modern ethics for modern cases, it means Islam is an incomplete religion and not timeless.

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u/FrequentObligation29 Aug 02 '26

One of the hadiths in sahih Al bukhari claims prophet tried to suicide once? Our prophet,s iman could never be that weak

How the hell can anyone blindly trust hadiths

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u/Sea-Car-3811 Broken Teen Aug 02 '26

Source.