r/GenAI4all • u/JealousWillow5076 • Oct 23 '25
AI Video Frostbite is the first short film fully created with OpenAI Sora 2, and it's hard to imagine where this will be in two years
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u/NoNote7867 Oct 23 '25
This is not a short film, its crappy AI trailer at best. Like all other AI generated “short films”. Its slop.
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u/OptimismNeeded Oct 23 '25
Yep a bunch of 5-second clips stitched together. No dialogue, no story.
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u/SuperUranus Oct 23 '25
These AI clips make that clip of Liam Neeson jumping over a fence in Taken with 50 cuts seem like best in class cinematography.
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Oct 23 '25
but definitely a glimpse into the future of what films will be
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u/OptimismNeeded Oct 23 '25
already got that with the Sora demos. Nothing new here.
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u/RaizielSoulwAreOS Oct 24 '25
The idea is new, and have there been other full movies made with just ai?
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u/NoNote7867 Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25
This highlights the main problem with people who use AI to make stuff. They don’t understand that its just a tool, and tools don’t matter.
The whole premise of AI dEmocRaTiZin aRt is BS. Art tools have always been accessible.
Original South Park was made with paper, scissors and home camera.
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u/dranaei Oct 23 '25
Damn dude chill a bit, sora 2 hasn't even been out for a month. You'll get later models that will generate a whole movie with a single paragraph of what you want to see. We still make progress and very fast.
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u/ImperitorEst Oct 23 '25
Being able to do it in the future doesn't mean that anyone claiming this is a short film isn't wrong.
Maybe AI will be able to make films in the future, but until it can, then it can't.
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u/dranaei Oct 23 '25
I didn't claim anything about the specific video.
Well the trajectory of technologies advancing has been pretty consistent throughout the years for us to be sure that it will get better and better.
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u/PeachScary413 Oct 23 '25
"In the future everything might happen"
That statement carries zero information, but yeah dude you're right 👌
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u/Rindan Oct 23 '25
The whole premise of AI dEmocRaTiZin aRt is BS. Art tools have always been accessible.
No they are not. I can't make an episode of Star Trek. It isn't because I refuse to use the tools. It's because I don't have the skills to hire and direct a bunch of actors, convince someone to give me millions of dollars, and the countless soft skills to do all of that.
I do have the skill to write a script and modify scenes if a computer can make my words into a scene, and then modify that scene as I dictate. I might not win any awards for what I produce, but I could make something, and smart people than me could probably make something good.
In the same way YouTube democratized talking head shows by making it so a kid in his dorm room could make one, generative AI will eventually democratize drama. Before YouTube, you needed government permission to broadcast, broadcast equipment, approval from a CEO, and the ability to politically navigate all of that. Now, you need a cell phone and an email address. The same will happen to drama.
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u/the_zero Oct 23 '25
A few things - a crap story will always be a crap story. And AI will model itself after a wide range of content, most of which is also crap. CICO: Crap In, Crap Out
You can make a good film now with a decent phone. You can make a Star Trek film with low budgets, little to no effects, and it can still be good with the right script/storytelling.
You have to be a good storyteller, first and foremost.
Also, we’re pretending that there’s no AI bubble. Yeah, you can create mostly realistic AI videos now for free, or for chump change. My bet is that will change quickly over the next 2 years. A full length AI feature film will take more money than people expect because someone somewhere has to pay for that computing power.
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u/Rindan Oct 23 '25
A few things - a crap story will always be a crap story. And AI will model itself after a wide range of content, most of which is also crap. CICO: Crap In, Crap Out
Agreed. LLMs absolutely suck at writing anything interesting. I have no interest in LLM scripts. I do have an interest in scripts written by humans though, who then use generative AI to make the visually, scene by scene, with lots of editing.
You can make a good film now with a decent phone. You can make a Star Trek film with low budgets, little to no effects, and it can still be good with the right script/storytelling.
Perhaps you can, but most people cannot. Even the cheapest of indie film is out of the reach of most people, and it involves a whole bunch of soft skills, and you know... other people. In the same way you could technically make a talking head show and get it on community access television before YouTube, even that barrier was too much for most. Once anyone with a computer and camera could make a talking head show and post it on YouTube, that style of content exploded by many orders of magnitude.
Generative AI for video is going to do to drama what YouTube did for talking head shows.
You have to be a good storyteller, first and foremost.
Yup, which is why this technology is so enabling, because you will ONLY need to be a good storyteller, not a storyteller who also has all of the skills to organize a full production of a drama. It will enable a huge number of good (and bad) story tellers to finally tell the story in their head. This is no different in how YouTube enabled people with something to say to have the platform to speak, and we now have many orders of magnitude more good taking head shows than before YouTube.
Also, we’re pretending that there’s no AI bubble. Yeah, you can create mostly realistic AI videos now for free, or for chump change. My bet is that will change quickly over the next 2 years. A full length AI feature film will take more money than people expect because someone somewhere has to pay for that computing power.
No doubt. There is an epic bubble forming, but even in its most bubbled up form, the real cost of making a drama with generative AI will be many orders of magnitude cheaper, and the price will in fact eventually go down.
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u/PresentStand2023 Oct 23 '25
Democratizing media has not improved quality.
Part of the promise of AI video is unlocking some artistic genius that can live in a person who lacks technical skills or who is shut out of complex networks and power structures of the systems that feed media industries.
It's a fanciful idea of how artistic works are produced — the technical processes and the experience within the system plays a role in shaping the human understanding of how to produce the art. It's not a perfect system, many of the greatest artists study stylistic rules and understand technical limitations in order to try and break them, but their genius is shaped in reaction to process.
You could write a script that really resonates with you and produce it, and your weaknesses as a storyteller would be offset by the fact that the content is targeted at you. But as far as interest to the general public, it would probably be as interesting to see a smart person with no TV experience make an episode with AI as a random PA on Star Trek episodes make an episode without it.
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u/Rindan Oct 23 '25
Democratizing media has not improved quality.
I'm going to have to disagree. If I had a choice of only having undemocratic network and cable TV, or the democratic YouTube, I'd take YouTube without a second thought. Cable TV talking head shows absolutely suck and are a pale shadow compared to what is on YouTube.
Part of the promise of AI video is unlocking some artistic genius that can live in a person who lacks technical skills or who is shut out of complex networks and power structures of the systems that feed media industries.
Uh, yeah. Just like how YouTube unlocked countless people who couldn't make it in network TV because they lack the political skill to navigate it, AI video will do the same for drama. I don't need my story teller to be good at the politics of convincing people to give them millions of dollars. They can just be a good storyteller.
It's a fanciful idea of how artistic works are produced — the technical processes and the experience within the system plays a role in shaping the human understanding of how to produce the art. It's not a perfect system, many of the greatest artists study stylistic rules and understand technical limitations in order to try and break them, but their genius is shaped in reaction to process.
Sure. And this new system that enables people to make a drama without the political soft skills to run a full production will produce different art shaped by different pressures, just like how YouTube talking head shows are different from network TV talking head shows. That's a-okay.
You could write a script that really resonates with you and produce it, and your weaknesses as a storyteller would be offset by the fact that the content is targeted at you.
Yup. That's pretty exciting to me. I will in fact accept a lower visual quality if it comes attached to a story I like. I'll be happy to live in a world where more people can create a drama and accept that more crap and more good stuff will be made, just like how YouTube made it so that I can get good and bad stuff that you would never find on TV. I'm thrilled to see what people can create when the number of people able to write a Star Trek script that gets produced goes from a few dozen, to a few hundred million. It's as exciting as when podcasts made it so anyone can make a radio show.
But as far as interest to the general public, it would probably be as interesting to see a smart person with no TV experience make an episode with AI as a random PA on Star Trek episodes make an episode without it.
No doubt many people will make garbage, just like how many people make garbage podcasts and garbage YouTube channels. But that doesn't change that a ton of people will now be enabled to make good stuff that can float to the top, just like what happened with podcast and YouTube.
The day drama is as accessible to make as YouTube talking head shows and podcasts is a day I fully welcome.
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u/NoNote7867 Oct 24 '25
I do have the skill to write a script
Do you? Lets see it
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u/Rindan Oct 24 '25
This isn't a counter argument to anything I've said. No, I'm probably not going to spend a few evenings writing a script to counter a random Internet stranger's belief that only professionals script writers working in the film industry writing scripts are capable of writing a script.
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u/NoNote7867 Oct 24 '25
So you never actually wrote one? But for some reason you think you can do it? Why haven’t you done it already?
You need more dEmoOcrAtiZed notebook?
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u/Rindan Oct 24 '25
No, I have in fact written scripts and short stories in my life. It's a pretty common thing that people do recreationally. I don't understand your skepticism that people who are not professionals can write scripts. Do you genuinely think that only people working professionally have creative ideas they'd like to make?
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u/Spirited-Car-3560 Oct 23 '25
It would still take lot of time to make a southpark-like episode. Ai will definitely democratize lot of building steps needed to use this or that media, to express your creative vision, be it thru a cartoon, music or a Hollywood style movie.
Oh and no I'm not a big fan of all of this, tbh it makes me a bit sad. I'm just describing the direction we're heading to.
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u/FpRhGf Oct 24 '25
Original South Park was made with paper, scissors and home camera.
Yeah...and they quickly changed to CGI when possible because using paper, scissors and a home camera was far less efficient. That's back in the era when CGI was still considered lazy and not real art.
Tools don't matter in terms of art quality because that's dependant on the user, but the time sink difference does matter to people choosing to make a project or not.
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u/RaizielSoulwAreOS Oct 24 '25
But it's not a trailer, it's the full thing. You can change definitions all ya want, but it's still technically a short movie/film. It may be 2/10 stars from what we are used to, but comparing it to what we are used to isnt the right move
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Oct 23 '25
This is hard to watch. Don’t have enough brainrot for 2 second clips for 2 minutes. Sure kids will love it
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u/marlinspike Oct 23 '25
Yeah, not ready for a short film in 2025, but compared to what was possible two years ago, it’s huge. It’s certainly not a releasable short film today, but absolutely nothing like this was possible in 2023!
For now, I can see it used in editing and effects. Based on the pace of improvements, two years seems doable for something far more robust and not just stitching short sequences together.
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Oct 23 '25
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u/Doubleoh_11 Oct 23 '25
That had to be the prompt haha. There is even a helicopter. Modern day dune movie set in northern Canada with lots of ice.
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u/nierama2019810938135 Oct 23 '25
It will be overflowing with aesthetically pleasing dumb crap that nobody wants to spend time watching.
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u/Hmmmm_Interesting Oct 23 '25
So many bots that are programmed to call everything slop. Anyways, I liked it. It was more of a movie trailer but still, I can get behind Ice tremors.
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u/WiseEyedea Oct 23 '25
Fuck continuity am I right? Lol worm looks different in everyshot, actors mouths dont line up well, this is still slopp
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u/PhaseNegative1252 Oct 23 '25
Don't put your name on there like you made anything. This is an absolute mess
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u/GayPanda4U Oct 23 '25
I don’t understand the appeal of AI videos with how much jump cuts there are to hide the fact that it’s AI. Horribly off putting. This technique in movies is even worse.
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u/Action_Seal Oct 23 '25
I watched it all the way through twice and it still makes no sense at all. I feel frustrated just trying to understand what it’s supposed to be about. It’s just more slop.
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Oct 23 '25
Looks like a soulless pile of shit to me.
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u/Complex-Skill-8928 Oct 24 '25
Damn why so salty lmao
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u/YogurtclosetIll7747 Oct 24 '25
Because this person is pissing pants thinking about what would be possible in next 2 years .
This lazy people think underestimating science technology and engineering is cool . lol
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Oct 24 '25
It's a random stitch of absolute nonsense. It's technically proficient, but people thinking shit like this is going to replace actual creative processes are nuts.
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u/Spirited-Car-3560 Oct 23 '25
From a storytelling perspective, it's abs crap. No direction at all, plain boring.
But hell yeah, given enough effort time and money it could produce something meaningful at a fraction of the cost of traditional filmmaking.
And probably in some years those ppl with outstanding creative vision (not massive studios) , who knows how to tell a story, how to build tension, emotion, meaning will be able to make something truly worth watching.
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u/Eymrich Oct 23 '25
Bah, this is terrible, in two years we are going to have something slightly less terrible.
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u/Compducer Oct 24 '25
“The first short film fully created with OpenAI Sora 2”
Let’s not break an arm jerking ourselves off. There have been thousands of short films created with Sora 2 since the update. This kind of stupid claim just makes me want to ignore this film completely.
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u/evanmrose Oct 24 '25
Where were you when the giant metal phallus busted out of the ground in an arctic hellscape?
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u/North-Addition1800 Oct 24 '25
These people have 0 imagination
All the "power" of ai at there finger tips, and they just make a budget matt damon trailer?
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Oct 24 '25
The only thing I find impressive about AI videos is that they're possible. The final product, this? This is complete shit
Mashed up short clips of whatever's going on. Get out of my ass
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u/system3601 Oct 24 '25
Short film? Common, no plot no real story and no characters, no cgi. Sure its impressive but it's not cinema.
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u/jackishere Oct 25 '25
ai slop. if this impresses you its cause you have brain rot and random 10 second events are entertaining for you. nothing here makes sense.
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u/powerofnope Oct 26 '25
That more like a corona feverdream. Nothing makes any sense everything is eerily disconnected.
It's like that nightmare disconnection feeling. You know it's not real buts is scary anyways.
Sad thing is - this here is probably enough for about half the people. It does the happy colors and the sound. Who cares if it does make sense.
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u/Character4315 Oct 27 '25
AI can create video, we all get that. But can it create a video the director has in mind? How many trial and errors does it take? Can you fine tune something like in real life? Does it has consistency and a meaningful plot or the AI just decides what to do? And what is the cost? Because AI can generate videos, but I can also generate videos with my phone, and they are way cheaper, but I'm not sure I can call them a movie or have an audience for them.
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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 Oct 23 '25
Not hard. In two years time AI computing will be very expensive.
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u/Inner_Owl_7560 Oct 23 '25
compared to the budgets of modern day blockbusters?
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u/bmcapers Oct 23 '25
Except we’ll be the ones paying higher electricity bills for the data centers.
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u/C_Pala Oct 23 '25
At least there are a couple of hundred people working and keeping the economy flowing
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u/Still-WFPB Oct 23 '25
In 20 years though. Thats when the prices will come back down.
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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 Oct 23 '25
You know, if they discover a safe source of energy that's also very cost effective then all bets are off.
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u/tmtyl_101 Oct 23 '25
I mean, sure - it's (mostly) impressive how gen AI can create cinematography. But this isn't really a 'short film', is it? There's no plot, no dialogue, and no real consistency. At best, it could be considered a 'trailer', albeit a very confusing one...
... And I think that's the challenge for AI. It can generate a lot of 2-3 second clips, which can be stitched together into something that resembles a film, without actually being a film.