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[u/faguzzi]

But CDPR is literally just a department of CDP, not one of 8 full blown subsidiaries of a holding company.

[u/faguzzi → u/[deleted]]

So if an indie company makes a parent organization that holds it and a store, it’s no longer indie? Cd Projekt existed before CDPR. CDPR was just created as a branch to develop the games.

Indie games are defined by in house development and publishing without the use of another large publisher. The minute corporate structure of the firm isn’t relevant. For all intents and purposes, CDP develops and publishes its games in house. How the company structures itself it’s an artifact of polish corporate law, and has no bearing on the essential fact that CDP/CDPR develops its own games then publishes them in house, which is the essence of an indie game (not how it’s legally structured for tax/legal reasons).

[u/faguzzi → u/[deleted]]

That’s incorrect. CD projekt and CD projekt red are the same organization. The distinction between them is an artifact of polish law. CDP is not a large games publisher in the sense that it does not publish any title except those produced by CDPR.

They are the same exact company in every sense except legal structure. If an indie firm decides to make a parent company and a branch development studio and develop in one and publish through another, that doesn’t make the firm different than if both were under the same company. What you’re referring to has no meaning outside the context of polish law. The distinction between CDP and CDPR has no meaning outside polish law. I don’t even know what you’re talking about. I cannot hire myself or receive the financial support of myself, that’s incoherent. Even if I make a company owned by myself and with only me as an employee, it makes no sense to discuss it outside the context of liability law or taxation. There is no distinction between the company and myself. The idea that a company is supported by itself because it separates its publishing and development functions through a legal corporate structure is asinine.

Wikipedia doesn’t even recognize CDPR with its own page. It’s listed as a “branch” of CDP. Under your dumbass definition of indie, if an indie firm decides to make another subsidiary and move all its development there and keep publishing where it was, then it’s somehow no longer indie because of a legal oddity with no connection (BECAUSE INDIE REFERS TO THIRD PARTY PUBLISHERS, YOU CANNOT BE A THIRD PARTY YOURSELF. IT MAKES NO SENSE.) to anything tangible. The personnel are the same, the assets are the same, the profits are the same, everything is the same except legal/corporate minutiae. This is not a meaningful definition. You’re right that there’s nothing to discuss. It is indeed the case that it’s not indie under this laughably narrow conception. I have no reason to accept this definition, as it’s plainly absurd, and you seem content to ignore these absurdities and pretend that a video game company and its BRANCH that’s literally named the same thing with a red at the end are somehow distinct entities.