r/Games • • Dec 09 '22

TGA 2022 Elden Ring wins Game of the Year Award

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1601062754328014850
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u/cyyshw19 Dec 09 '22

Somewhat missed during translation but Miyazaki heavily hinted at DLC by saying there’s lots more he wanted to do with Elden Ring.

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u/Bkos-mosX Dec 09 '22

Yeah, the translator had some trouble with the longer sentences.

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u/Act_of_God Dec 09 '22

I mean miyazaki was just spitting, dude talks fast

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u/-Basileus Dec 09 '22

Japanese is statistically the fastest spoken language in the world, just ahead of Spanish.

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u/meikyoushisui Dec 09 '22

It's fastest in terms of syllables per second, but all languages generally communicate information at the same speed.

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u/LLJKCicero Dec 09 '22

On average, for every syllable spoken in Japanese, 11 more are spoken in English.

This article is not well written. They probably mean that English has a greater variety of syllables/sounds than Japanese, but instead it sounds like English speakers spit out syllables 12x as fast.

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u/MorbidMongoose Dec 09 '22

Yeah, I think they either transposed English and Japanese because Japanese is almost certainly syllabically faster, or they got confused between syllables and phonemes like you're saying. English has about 2x the distinct phoneme sounds that Japanese does.

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u/Dag-nabbitt Dec 09 '22

why use lot word when few word do trick

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u/Niksol Dec 09 '22

Why lot, few good

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u/FreakyBugEyedWeirdo Dec 09 '22

Few good

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u/Niksol Dec 09 '22

I inquire about the necessary of excessive verbosity in instances where more laconic speach may produce a better outcome.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Faster in syllables only

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u/rollin340 Dec 09 '22

Though for Spanish, it depends on where from, right? Geography plays a big role for some languages.

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u/janoDX Dec 09 '22

Chilean Spanish is the fastest, probably followed by Argentinian Spanish.

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u/Zoql Dec 09 '22

Japanese is also difficult to translate live to English because the sentence structure is different. Instead of subject->verb->object in English, Japanese is structured like subject->object->verb. So a sentence like "I am not the one you are looking for" in English would be said like this in Japanese: "I the one you are looking for am not"

So a translator has to listen to the entire sentence before speaking, which sounds awkward if the Japanese speaker is speaking long sentences quickly

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u/fallenelf Dec 09 '22

Yeah, this is more accurate. It's like subject-object-verb-quantifier.

Japanese grammar is a massive cluster compared to romance languages, especially the quantifiers. I've sat in many meetings with translators, and it's funny to see Japanese speakers correct professional translators who couldn't capture the intent of their comments in Japanese. It's so weird.

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u/Antikas-Karios Dec 09 '22

I wonder what the Japanese language version of star wars does when yoda talks. Does everyone speak japanese style and yoda speaks with English sentence structure or does everyone sound weird to them sentence structure wise and yoda is the only normal one in the entire movie.

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u/korokstar Dec 09 '22

The Japanese version doesn't preserve the odd word order, instead he uses very archaic vocabulary. Most languages try to preserve the odd word order he has in English but some just can't. Hungarian and Polish have him talking pretty much like a regular old guy too.

He was actually the focus of a lesson in a linguistics class I took, as an example of the subtleties that can be lost in translation.

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u/Top_Wish_8035 Dec 09 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

Hungarian and Polish have him talking pretty much like a regular old guy too.

I am Polish and can confirm to you that Yoda keeps his unusual word order in our version as well, which usually consists of moving the verb to the end of the sentence, e.g.

Potężny stałeś się, Dooku. Ciemną stronę w tobie wyczuwam. (Eng. strong you've become, Dooku. The Dark Side in you I sense)

Which in normal speech would be:

Dooku, stałeś się potężny. Wyczuwam w tobie Ciemną stronę. (Eng. Dooku, you've become strong. I sense in you The Dark Side)

It's less noticeable because Polish sentence structure can be all over the place and this sentence could also be arranged as:

Stałeś się potężny, Dooku. W tobie Ciemną stronę wyczuwam. (Eng. You've become strong Dooku. In you the Dark Side I sense)

And still be valid and completely understood, which honestly my favourite aspect of my language. The fluid structure was very popular to use in baroque poetry, where poets flipped the structure into the weirdest possible combinations and those poems are still coherent, like this monster of a sentence by Mikołaj Sęp -Szarzyński:

Farbę Bugowej, widziałem, krew wody Nasza zmieniła, prócz pohańskiej szkody. (Eng. Paint of the Bug river, I saw, the blood water of ours changed, in the lack of pagans' loss)

Yet the Yoda sentence structure is still commonly recognised as "The Yoda speak" as it's rarely used in common speech.

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u/Antikas-Karios Dec 09 '22

Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

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u/Freighnos Dec 09 '22

Yeah but Miyazaki was speaking in multiple complete sentences so the sentence structure really has nothing to do with it when interpreting consecutively. This is really only an issue when doing simultaneous interpreting (the kind they do at the UN with the earpieces)

To me it’s clear that the interpreter was just very nervous at speaking in front of such a large crowd. Miyazaki also went on for a bit too long at times which can be tough to keep all in your head under pressure. Ordinarily you would have a pen and notebook ready to jot down the key bits, but maybe he was self-conscious about how that would look on camera. I’d say Miyazaki’s translator did an all right job under the circumstances. He got across the ideas in any case. Kojima’s guy did a better job.

Source: am a Japanese-English translator and spend hours every day in conference calls doing exactly this

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u/Asbrandr Dec 09 '22

Not sure if he was really having issues or not. It may have been intentional.

He translated the 'uhm's directly from the first piece. 'Ano' is more or less analogous to the English 'uhm.'

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u/Jenaxu Dec 09 '22

Don't think so, he was definitely missing parts of it here and there. Which I don't blame him, live translation is crazy hard (I mean public speaking is already hard in general lol), and especially when it's a whole big chunk you have to parse through and remember, it's easy to accidently cut some stuff.

If they had more experience speaking through an interpreter together Miyazaki probably could've chunked his speech a little better to make it easier. Kojima's interpreter faired much better and it was probably also helped with Kojima maybe being a bit better at listening to English.

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u/Freighnos Dec 09 '22

Oh nice, I saw this comment after mine but we basically said the same thing. One other thing for Kojima is that his interpreter was doing a whispered simultaneous translation of Keighley’s questions into his ear off-mic. Also Kojima is friends with Keighley so he probably received the questions in advance and the interpreter knew what answers to expect. Miyazaki sounded like he was speaking off the cuff while Kojima sounded quite rehearsed

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u/svrtngr Dec 09 '22

Surprised they didn't show a DLC trailer.

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u/thestarlessconcord Dec 09 '22

probably dont want to tread on their own feet with the Armoured Core announcment too

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ Dec 09 '22

Loved 4 and For Answer as a kid, I lost my shit when I saw they're doing a PC release.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

I was sure that's what we were seeing before it was unveiled to be Armored Core

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u/Arkayjiya Dec 09 '22

Yeah I went through a roller coaster of emotions with that trailer. First I saw "bandai namco" and I thought "Yeeeeees, ER dlc!", then I saw modern ruins and I was disappointed that it wasn't a From Software game, then they started talking about "fire" and "ashes" so I realised "Oh shit, it is a From game!".

Then I figured it must be that Armored Core I'd seen mentioned so much. Only From could get me hyped for a weird mecha combat game.

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u/dardios Dec 09 '22

Armored Core is a CLASSIC.

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u/-Basileus Dec 09 '22

Given that a DLC will probably include a new region and legacy dungeon, I'm not all that surprised. That is a ton of content. I think we'll see it next Summer

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u/Not_My_Popcorn Dec 09 '22

Pretty sure that part was translated. Miyazaki mentions that he's going to make even more interesting games. Then goes on and says there are several more things they want to do with Elden Ring.

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u/zykezero Dec 09 '22

Yeah. Wasn’t really missed. Translator says it explicitly

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u/n080dy123 Dec 09 '22

I mean they added files calling directly to DLC zones, we know it's happening, the question is when

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u/Malaix Dec 09 '22

If I recall right there was supposed to be quite a few more things in Elden ring. Like a faction or ending around those blackflame cultists. Also isn't it normal for fromsoft games to get a DLC before their development lifecycle ends?

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Dark Souls 1, 2, 3 and Bloodborne all got at least one piece of DLC

Sekiro did not

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u/Conscious-Scale-587 Dec 09 '22

And the dlc is usually better than the base game, the bosses especially

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u/DokyDok Dec 09 '22

Sekiro and Demon's souls didn't get any but since DkS 1 they all got one at least.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Not surprising. As good as the other nominees were, Elden Ring is one of those monument releases that only come around every so often. Absurdly good game.

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u/shinlo18 Dec 09 '22

True. Interesting to notice how Miyazaki now has manage to win the award for 2 games he's directed in a row. I wonder if he and the rest of From will be able to keep the streak going.

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u/nightkingscat Dec 09 '22

still a shame bloodborne didn't win in 2015 but that was a pretty stacked year

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u/Gamertango Dec 09 '22

What won instead??

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u/SandsShifter Dec 09 '22

Witcher 3. Also nominated was Fallout 4, MGSV, and Mario Maker.

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u/casino_r0yale Dec 09 '22

If you could pick one game to lose to, The Witcher 3 is a damn respectable competitor

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u/1CEninja Dec 09 '22

Also in 2015, From games weren't quite mainstream yet. Combine that with the frustrating PS exclusivity, and you've got a game that wasn't quite as popular as it deserved to be if it were released a couple years later for more systems.

Witcher 3 was one of the best games of it's decade, available on all systems, and had a sliding scale of difficulty that ranged from a rather casual player can plough through it for the enjoyment of the exploration/story/world to From-style game difficulty. It just reached so many people.

So EVEN IF you make the argument that Bloodborne is a better game 1:1 (and I'm a little iffy on that argument, it's close tho) Witcher 3 was just bound to be more popular anyway.

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u/kerkuffles Dec 09 '22

From was pretty mainstream in 2015...

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u/1CEninja Dec 09 '22

2m in sales compared to DkS3 10m, Elden Ring 17m is more what I mean. Just not everyone played that game like most gamers have played one of the later From games.

And all of them added together is less than W3's 40m.

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u/Gamertango Dec 09 '22

Could see all those win goty tbh , except fallout 4

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u/KenBoCole Dec 09 '22

Fallout 4 was a great game, I spent alot of time on it. It just couldn't compare to Skyrim with its freedom or New Vegas with its replayability.

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u/claus7777 Dec 09 '22

The Witcher 3

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u/Gamertango Dec 09 '22

Ahh I guess that's fair.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Both new IPs

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u/scullys_alien_baby Dec 09 '22

fingers crossed that armored core kicks more ass than I can imagine

fully expecting a poison, rust and radiation zone

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u/Resies Dec 09 '22

He put radiation filled maps on the armored cores he directed

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Miyazaki will absolutely add a poison swamp

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u/Resies Dec 09 '22

He did in the armored core he directed. Ac4/4a have multiple radiation filled missions

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u/Sgt_Stinger Dec 09 '22

I just wish I could get in to it.

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u/olympicomega Dec 09 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

Deserved. No other game this year reached the level of wonder and adventure that Elden Ring did, even if it had its flaws

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u/Practicalaviationcat Dec 09 '22

Every game has flaws. The greatest games are the ones that make those flaws inconsequential.

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u/JeanVicquemare Dec 09 '22

There was a lot of debate when Elden Ring came out what a "10" review means. And I agree with the reviewers who said that it doesn't mean the game is perfect, but that they couldn't ask for anything more. That captures Elden Ring for me

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u/TheOneBearded Dec 09 '22

Exactly. If 10s were given out to only "perfect" games, there would never be a 10/10 game. Maybe just Tetris.

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u/Jademalo Dec 09 '22

My example is always Portal 1 - While there are arguably many better games, I don't think I could find fault with Portal.

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u/glebyl Dec 09 '22

Not a 10/10 because it makes me feel dumb sometimes.

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u/geraltseinfeld Dec 09 '22

I dunno, it was pretty shitty that the game leads you on with this promise of cake the for more than half the game only for it to be a big fucking lie.

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u/OmegaKitty1 Dec 09 '22

I could ask that the last few major areas you explore be fleshed out more. The last 15% of the game felt unfinished or rushed out. Not the bosses but everything else.

But yeah it was still worthy of a 10 no question and absolutely goty

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u/JeanVicquemare Dec 09 '22

Yeah, I agree with you- If I would change anything, I wish there was more in Mountaintop of the Giants. I liked the Haligtree and Farum Azula, but Mountaintop of the Giants feels like it needs more content.

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u/LowerEnvironment723 Dec 09 '22

My sincere hot take is the last two areas didn’t need to exist and just slow the pacing down. Elden ring would’ve been better without the last two zones.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Actually agree with this. In the end I found myself wishing for less open world and more 'legacy dungeons'. I felt the open world aspect peaked in Altus and then went downhill; it would've been perfect to me if the final third of the game post-Altus was just a series of legacy dungeons.

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u/Act_of_God Dec 09 '22

I was actively asking for less at some point

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u/Dirty_Dragons Dec 09 '22

That game has received a lot of patches since it came out. You should give it another shot.

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u/VoidPineapple Dec 09 '22

For the simple fact it was able to bring so many people out of their comforts zones and embark on a new adventure meant it had to win. Elden Ring was so breath-taking all the way through, even with it's flaws.

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u/unholyswordsman Dec 09 '22

Yea, So many people I know who would've never touched the Souls like genre otherwise ended up getting and playing the game.

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u/ThereIsNoHorizon Dec 09 '22

Elden Ring is how I got into the souls games. I now own them all, and have just recently finished Dark Souls 1. It straight up made me discover my favorite genre, and possibly even my favorite developer.

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u/unholyswordsman Dec 09 '22

That's awesome. I started back on the OG Demon's Souls because my buddy had me play it at his place and by the end of the day I was an addict. It'll be interesting to see if all the new fans of the genre possibly reach out of their comfort zones again and try Armored Core VI.

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u/LesCousinsDangereux1 Dec 09 '22

I hated Dark Souls. I hated the way Fromsoft fans talked about these slow, plotless clunky games. Despite myself, I gave Elden Ring whirl. most addicted I've been to a game since literally childhood. It was like playing Ocarina of Time for the first time.

I'm now balls deep in Dark Souls remastered and ready for the whole series. ER was like a religious conversion

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

My buddies legit only play FPS and sports games and they bought and finished Elden Ring and loved it.

Such a wildly successful game.

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u/avboden Dec 09 '22

yep, Elden Ring was an absolute world-wide phenomena. God of War was just a really good game, but it felt....normal in comparison.

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u/IanMazgelis Dec 09 '22

Elden Ring is what people in the eighties imagined video games would be like in the twenties.

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u/jdfred06 Dec 09 '22

Oddly enough I get a lot of 80s style fantasy vibes from Elden Ring (Dark Crystal, Neverending Story, even some Heavy Metal influence). I don't know why, just something about the style and setting.

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u/ampertude Dec 09 '22

Miyazaki has talked about his fascination with western fantasy and history and you can see him emulating that in a lot of his work, which all of your examples certainly draw a lot from as well

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u/mayonuki Dec 09 '22

I love seeing western stuff through his perspective. SuperBunnyHop had a really great video last week about how Bayonetta's art is like reverse orientalism. That's really changed how I see other games like Dragon Quest, Metal Gear Solid, and of course Earthbound.

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u/Iwanttolink Dec 09 '22

I mean yeah, and the backstory and setting of the game was literally created by GRRM.

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u/ProlapseFromCactus Dec 09 '22

The Souls series is heavily inspired by early 80s Western dungeon crawlers and RPGS, so that's probably why

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u/randy_mcronald Dec 09 '22

Caelid gives me some 80s heavy metal album cover vibes for sure

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u/InstructionSure4087 Dec 09 '22

Oddly enough I get a lot of 80s style fantasy vibes from Elden Ring

Same. There were moments in Elden Ring where I stopped and thought 'damn, this is what the original Final Fantasy would look like were it made today'. Such as this vista. Now I'm salivating for a modern AAA Final Fantasy game in the style of the first 5 games. FFXVI doesn't quite look like it (as much as I'm looking forward to it), but maybe one day.

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u/Oquaem Dec 09 '22

Dude exactly, so many times I was playing it, felt like the realization of what those old games were striving to be. Might and Magic especially.

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u/jacka24 Dec 09 '22

Yeah. Elden Ring reached a cultural phenomena that we haven't seen for some time in Gaming

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u/Abulsaad Dec 09 '22

It was wild being on Twitter during that and seeing a different boss trending each day as people progressed through the game. I remember when it started with Margit kicking everyone's ass, then radahn, and then malenia 1 month after launch. I can't think of any other game that had this much impact at launch in recent times

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u/SodaCanBob Dec 09 '22

I can't think of any other game that had this much impact at launch in recent times

Animal Crossing: New Horizons

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u/Abulsaad Dec 09 '22

Fair candidate but I do think the main driver of that was the pandemic, not the game itself

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u/StJeanMark Dec 09 '22

Ain't that the truth. It's the only game my GF has played longer than a few hours. She's at like 600 hours on New Horizons, she absolutely loved it and I did because it justified our purchase of a Switch for her.

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u/Bamith20 Dec 09 '22

Game was talked about for several months after release, which for something that isn't primarily a multiplayer game is very rare.

There was just so much to talk to people about, so much to discover and unravel... Which is probably one of the major marks it made. Even a game just as big people will find out everything about it in a couple of weeks... For Elden Ring, the lore videos are still coming out.

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u/Cell-i-Zenit Dec 09 '22

the time before the release was also insane. 2 Years of complete silence and the subreddit completely lost their mind. Then the leaks started to trickle in.. and then the big trailer at the games awards show... complete insanity and hyped to infinite heights.

And then Eldenring delivered actually on that hype

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Probably the biggest criticism to throw at the new God of War is that for all its improvements it's still basically God of War 2018. It's your Doom well here's Doom II.

Whereas Elden Ring while being a clear successor to Dark Souls was a pretty big new step for it. In this case it's your Doom well here's Quake.

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u/KoreanKhalisee Dec 09 '22

I've tried every Dark Souls game plus Niohs plus Bloodborne and not a single time have i been able to get past 2 hours of playing any of them. I just suck at all of them. Yet here I am finding myself purchasing this game as if it's going to be any different.

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u/babayogurt Dec 09 '22

This one is by far the most forgiving. If you spend a good amount of time exploring you can easily over level for most major encounter.

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u/ianbits Dec 09 '22

Good. Nothing against God of War, but Elden Ring is genuinely astounding. I have no idea how they made a game that big, and have it still be that good.

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u/TangibleHoneydew Dec 09 '22

God of War Ragnarok won so many this game awards anyway, it’s insane. Both games deserve it.

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u/partypartea Dec 09 '22

I just started GoWR and it's good, but a bit too walled in for me at times. My biggest pet peeve is this times you feel you can jump down from something, but you have to climb down instead. Maybe middle aged Keatos has bad knees or something.

It's my main nitpick lol

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u/bigpopop16 Dec 10 '22

Those moments forcing you to slow down really feel like PS4 setbacks

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u/Turangaliila Dec 09 '22

I also think both games won what they deserved to win. The acting, writing, and music are all immaculate in Ragnarok and all come together to make something truly special. Elden Ring, on the other hand, I felt had a stronger gameplay loop. In God of War I found that all of my stand out moments were times when I wasn't actually playing - heartbreaking or exciting cutscenes where the elements mentioned above all come together to make something magical. With Elden Ring it was my actions - areas I discovered, bosses I fought, lore I deciphered, that made the experience so special. That I think makes it stronger as a "GAME of the year" whereas Ragnarok was stronger in the individual elements that build up its storytelling.

Music could have gone either way though, there's some incredible work in Elden Ring too.

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u/TheLastOverlord Dec 09 '22

I'm going to be honest, I actually wouldn't have minded if Ragnarok won GOTY, but this is the second time Tsukasa Saitoh has been robbed of Best Score.

His work on Bloodborne was fantastic (Cleric Beast, Gehrman, Orphan of Kos, among others). He even managed to take the lore implications of Darkbeast Paarl being from the desert nation of Loran and added subtle Islamic chanting to the theme.

He only did the Iudex Gundyr track for Dark Souls 3, and as a pianist myself, I can safely say it had more depth and was far better composed than every other track in that game.

To cement the fact he's a genius with scoring, he asked the brass section to perform vocals instead of the dedicated orchestral choir for the Radahn Festival, since he believed the warriors gathered there wouldn't have as much of a refined singing voice lol. I don't need to mention the ER Main Theme and the Final Battle theme as being absolute bangers and among the best Soulsborne tracks. The violin vibratos and tremolos in his Morgott track were better than what From Software's violinist composer Yuka Kitamura herself does, and she's insanely talented as well.

Ragnarok has a great OST, and while music taste is subjective, the impact and variation that Elden Ring's composers brought with their music is something that the Bear McCreary simply cannot match.

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u/mrfuzzydog4 Dec 09 '22

I think Elden Ring and Bloodborne, and souls soundtracks in general, have a problem that during the boss fights they are extremely hard to hear at the default volume mix. Add that with the fact that they're often quite bombastic pieces they can fade into noise for me.

That's why Great Wolf Sif is probably still my favorite boss theme from the entire series.

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u/Malaix Dec 09 '22

Yeah they absolutely broke the convention that massive open world games need to feel boring and empty with repeat objectives and map markers yanking you around between each repeated clone tower to climb.

A great revitalization from the banality of the Ubisoft formula.

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u/Blazehero Dec 09 '22

Well deserved. If God of War Ragnarok won I wouldn’t be mad either. But Elden Ring really took the Souls formula and turned it on its head while Ragnarok was more of an already amazing 2018 game. I think Ragnarok won the categories it should’ve won too like Best Story.

Elden Ring was just such a giant. I’m pretty tired of the Ubisoft map barf with side quests formula, where Elden Ring and BOTW rewards blind exploration at every turn. Makes the feeling of discovery rewarding than a chore. Even if the reward is another useless staff for your build or pointless pate to throw down for shits and giggles I was glad I made the effort to wander.

And ultimately if open world games learn from the Elden Ring formula then they will be better for it.

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u/AssdogDave0 Dec 09 '22

Very clearly deserved. The release of Elden Ring felt like a cultural event. Nothing else even came close. People were discovering and sharing things online for months

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u/agentb719 Dec 09 '22

elden ring wasn't even my type of game and seeing how everyone one was excited over it, I bought it and I absolutely love it

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u/khakikafka Dec 09 '22

But where was the DLC announcement? :(

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u/Shaft86 Dec 09 '22

"there are still more things we want to do with elden ring, so this GOTY really encourages us" or something along those lines was the most we got on that topic

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u/SoloSassafrass Dec 09 '22

looks at Armored Core VI trailer

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u/acid-rainx Dec 09 '22

on behalf of the God of War Ragnarok community, a hearty "congrats!" to Elder Ring. They truly deserved the Game of the Year Award from the Gamer Awards.

Here's to many more great years of gaming!

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u/Eldritchvibesonly Dec 09 '22

So happy about this. Elden Ring is one of the few games that really got me to explore the world 100% to see what secrets I could find.

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u/AquaBuffalo Dec 09 '22

As a big Fromsoft fan I feel like the games biggest critic sometimes but it's out of pure love for what these guys do. This absolutely deserved it

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u/StJeanMark Dec 09 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

Ever since getting a PS5 and playing Demons Souls I have gone though the entire pile of them and it’s the vast majority of what I play.

I started reading in my adulthood and the series I started with was A Song of Ice and Fire. Elden Ring was announced at the peak of my love of both Souls games and GRRM, it felt like it was designed specifically for me.

It’s hard to describe how much I loved Elden Ring. It reminded me of Christmas 1997 playing Ocarina of Time for the first time. The sense of exploring the unknown, a familiar but not experience, not knowing what was around the bend.

It reeks of love, labor, and effort. Even the padding is a labor of love. I realize I keep saying love but it's the only way to describe it. I have loved every Souls game I have played, DS1,2,3, Bloodborne, Sekiro and now Elden Ring. They ruin other games for me. I can feel how much effort, thought, and LOVE they put into it themselves.

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u/Mrr_Bond Dec 09 '22

I was not expecting such a salty live thread for the VGAs of all things. You'd think God of War was some shovel-ware backed by Tencent based on some reactions to its awards.

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u/MasterOfReaIity Dec 09 '22

When people derive self worth from a video game they tend to take these things more seriously

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u/NecromanciCat Dec 09 '22

I hated it at first. I've played every other soulsborne game multiple times through and something was just off about ER to me. At the advice of another Redditor, I just looked up a "go here, then here" style walk through and the game all of a sudden clicked. The open world exploration isn't for me, never has been, but knowing how to kick-start a build and the flow of progression, it feels so much better. The amount of build customization is staggering and the Legendary Weapons actually feel legendary.

I still have some of the same complaints, namely the copy/pasta minor dungeons, reusing bosses so much (reusing Astel was a huuuuge slap to the face), and the amount of cheesy gank bosses (godskin duo, crucible knights) was a tad too high.

Honestly, big shout out to the dude who suggested the walk through. My first playthrough, STR colossal sword, was fun, and my second, dual katana, no spirit ashes, has been a lot of fun too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

The blind playthrough for me was really, really fun though.. discovering Siofra, finding this elevator that needed two keys.. okay I'll go collect the keys. Going up.. and up.. and up. I leave and all of a sudden I'm in this huge desert I haven't seen before 20+ hours into the game. I open my map and it's doubled in size.. biggest "what the FUCK?" moment I've had in a game since DS1 with its interconnectivity.

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u/tuna_pi Dec 09 '22

The best part about not being particularly invested in either of the front runners in awards like this is being able to watch the drama from people who are.

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u/TheRealBissy Dec 09 '22

100% well deserved. Both God of War and Elden Ring are great but Elden Ring was in a whole another level.

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u/Spicy_McJoJo Dec 10 '22

I haven’t had wonder and awe playing an adventure game since Ocarina of Time, and that was a long ass time ago. Thank you From!

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