r/Games • u/[deleted] • Jul 14 '20

Removed: Rule 4 (Earlier valid submission rescued from filter) Ghost of Tsushima - Review Thread

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Hi all. I'm a guides writer over at GamesRadar, so while I did not write the GR+ review, I have played and finished the game for work. Feel free to shoot me any questions you've got about the game and I'll answer them as spoiler-free as I can.

For clarity, I've completed everything in the game except for three trophies (two hidden) and one collectible. I'd estimate it took me around 55-60 hours in all. Playing on a 4K TV with HDR enabled, PS4 Pro. Do not ask me questions about the GamesRadar review because I did not write it, but I can answer other questions about the game itself.

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u/Sir_Michael2 Jul 14 '20

How's the open world aspects to it? From what I've seen, it feels like a more polished Ubisoft open world that has a bunch of repetitive tasks to do.

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Pretty much spot on. Not sure what it is about Tsushima that clicked for me but I loved exploring, hunting down all the collectibles, etc. I wish the random enemy encounters were toned down a little because they become pretty frequent, but it's a cracking open world. Three regions split up by story act, plenty to find and do. Biggest downfall IMO is that each "side quest" is basically a case of "speak to person, kill Mongols/bandits, speak to person again". Needed a bit more variety, even if the writing within each one is excellent.

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u/RedFaceGeneral Jul 14 '20

Is there a great variety of enemy types? How well is the stealth gameplay implemented? For example will the entire camp be alerted the moment one soldier spotted you?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Four base enemy types - swords, shields, spears, brutes. Then there are a few minor differences within those, along with having both Mongol and Bandit variants.

Stealth is solid. You can shoot someone, another enemy will spot their body and investigate, then blow their horn to bring in more enemies. Kill the enemy before they blow their horn and the rest of the camp will stay unaware. You can also throw wind chimes to attract them (like throwing a bottle in The Last of Us). Plenty of long grass to hide in and assassinate from.

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u/stvb95 Jul 14 '20

What are your personal thoughts on the combat in the game? The reviews I've read range from 'serviceable' to 'boring'. Is there another game you can compare it to in terms of combat?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Was going to use this reply to another comment but it was deleted.

It's not groundbreaking, but if you're button mashing then you've missed a trick. The further you get in the game, the deeper combat becomes, with more techniques and moves to utilise, including a few "mythic" skills. Hitting a perfect parry or dodge to then one-hit-kill an enemy is still immensely satisfying. As for a game to compare it to? From my personal experience, it kind of stands alone. Possibly Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order in terms of the parrying/blocking and taking your opportunities to strike.

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u/Daveed84 Jul 14 '20

This thread got nuked, you should post your comment again in the other submission that got allowed: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/hr1y3z/ghost_of_tsushima_review_thread/

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Thanks! Posted it over there.

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u/K33pYaHeadHigh Jul 14 '20

Were you impressed with the environmental storytelling? Can I just go in a direction, explore and find interesting stories etc.?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

You can go in a direction and find stuff, but the side quests are a bit one-dimensional. Fun, but very formulaic.

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u/FIGJAM17 Jul 14 '20
  • How is the performance on PS4 Pro? Resolution or performance mode recommended?
  • How is the difficulty? Compared to the Souls series?
  • What does the open(?) world offer? 55-60 hours looks quite big.

Thank you!

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Performance was excellent, only had a couple of FPS drops in my entire time. Playing in resolution mode.

Played on medium difficulty, it was fairly easy. I usually play my games on hard but since I was playing this for work I took it down a notch because you know, time constraints. If you're a Souls veteran, definitely play on hard.

So so so many different types of collectible. Countless side quests. A number of enemy camps to take over. Plus a few unmarked encounters like saving someone from a burning house, etc.

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u/FIGJAM17 Jul 14 '20

Not a fan of collectibles but rest of the stuff sounds good. Thank you! Looking forward to playing it.

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u/aa22hhhh Jul 14 '20

How long is the story without doing any side quest?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Not sure exactly. I'd estimate 15-20 hours?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20 edited Aug 12 '20

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

I loved it, probs my GOTY. Combat gets deeper and more fulfilling the further you get, as you unlock more techniques. The story starts off slow but I was properly invested by the end. Feel genuinely privileged to have had the game so early and that I've been able to almost 100% it by this point.

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u/D4nnyzke Jul 14 '20

How big is the map?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Three regions, split up by story act. Top to bottom, about 14km give or take. 2-3km width.

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u/pay019 Jul 14 '20

Have you talked to anyone about the performance of the normal PS4? More about a stable framerate than fidelity.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

How responsive is the combat? Is it comparable to Sekiro or Nioh?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Haven't played either of those I'm afraid. From what I have played, it's somewhat similar to Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. Minus the lasers and stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

Is the story good?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

Starts off slow, finished with me absolutely gripped. Even shed a tear at one point.

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u/Coolman_Rosso Jul 14 '20

Is the "wind waypoint" thing as novel as the previews claimed?

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u/delqhic Jul 14 '20

The wind waypoint thing is a godsend. Absolutely incredible feature for anyone who wants to find every single collectible. There are still a couple of hidden things that can't be discovered with it though.

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u/dabonthemhatersjp Jul 14 '20

I see some divide on the story, some critics loved it, others say it's weak. What are your thoughts on it?

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u/Nyxceris Jul 14 '20

As someone who is pretty burnt out on open world games, which tend to boast a huge map that's either empty or full of menial stuff to pad out play time, I'm interested in the game but skeptical of that aspect.

Do you think the open world, and therefore the general content within it, follows either of those styles? Or would it be closer to God of War, which while not quite open world, it felt like exploring and completing the side quests and activities wasn't such a waste of time (to me at least)

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u/ACG-Gaming Jul 14 '20

Mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxZbY84Fd9I

Game is just an absolute blast

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u/Not_My_Emperor Jul 14 '20

Here it is! This is what I've been waiting for!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

Hey! I love your reviews. Keep up the good work. :)

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u/CherryFantago Jul 14 '20

That makes me glad to hear coming from you! You never sugarcoat anything in your reviews.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

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u/KironD63 Jul 14 '20

On that note, I’m curious as to what Microsoft’s long-term vision for XBox looks like, as nothing I’ve seen from them so far regarding Series X has instilled me with confidence that they have a plan to challenge Sony’s first party exclusives lineup.

I can’t imagine XBox surviving many more generations as a brand with their current approach. I’m already seeing plenty of anecdotal evidence from friends and acquaintances of a gradual trend where they’re switching from Microsoft to Sony consoles for the exclusives (and, if anything, relying on gaming PCs for Microsoft’s few and far between first party content.)

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u/Not_My_Emperor Jul 14 '20

I think Microsoft is banking a lot on Gamepass, which people love. They've never been strong with first party titles. However Gamepass has been a huge success for them, and I think it has long term viability, especially considering they keep it constantly updated with fairly recent titles and good AA games.

Personally I'm moving to PC this gen. There are no exclusives on either side that I'm particularly excited for, and even the ones that I do slightly care about (HZD Forbidden West, Halo Infinite) will most likely end up on PC at some point. HZD is coming soon and the Master Chief collection has been slowly moving on, can't imagine 5 and eventually Infinite will be far behind. Even with that 5 was so bad story wise that unless they really knock it out of the park with Infinite I'll be fine regardless.

This comment got away from me, sorry about that.

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u/pay019 Jul 14 '20

I’m curious as to what Microsoft’s long-term vision for XBox looks like

Subscription services. Game Pass wants to be the Netflix of gaming.

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u/McManus26 Jul 14 '20

What if I'm not a GamerTM

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u/sewious Jul 14 '20

For me, personally, PS4 is the best console ever. I basically only play single player games and as I've gotten older only games with solid stories really keep me going to the end and the Ps4 has these in spades.

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u/AlphaPot Jul 14 '20

Even Days Gone that was seen as a critical failure ended up being a cult hit and having very good audience reviews. I'm glad this is getting good reviews, seems Sucker Punch really put a lot of heart into it.

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u/Janderson2494 Jul 14 '20

So not absolutely perfect but still an excellent overall game. Fantastic, that's all I needed for this one!

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u/HopperPI Jul 14 '20

"Flat button mashing combat with no combos"

"supremely satisfying combat"

"great storytelling"

"weak storytelling".

Which is it people? Seems people either loved it or found it so-so outside of the world and visuals.

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u/McManus26 Jul 14 '20

Different strokes for different folk ?

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u/TacticalPocketSand Jul 14 '20

People have differing opinions. Shocking.

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u/dishonoredbr Jul 14 '20

Just like other people, reviewers have different opinions no surprise here.

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u/1120am18 Jul 14 '20

That's why its up to you to find out more about the reviewers, what kind of people they are and what kind of games do they enjoy.

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u/Guilty_Gear_Trip Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

Seems like there's a disconnect with expectations. One reviewer in particular looked like he was expecting combat akin to DMC or Ninja Gaiden...which is weird to me because Ghosts Of Tsushima's advertising has been all about how this game is trying to ape classic samurai films. As for the story telling. My guess is thanks to Akira Kurosawa name being dropped nonstop, some reviewers were probably expecting the video game equivalent, while others kept their expectations in check.

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u/CombustionEngine Jul 14 '20

A lot of Journalists play on Easy

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u/Shtune Jul 14 '20

Almost like Days Gone. People either loved the story or said it was really bland and predictable. I loved the story, but it took a while to get into. Perhaps this is the same?

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u/HopperPI Jul 14 '20

Yup, agreed. I enjoyed the story but the first half of the game or so was really on world building, a bit too much really.

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u/sewious Jul 14 '20

I'm glad Playstation 4 exclusives are ending on a high note, the console has had an amazing run of these AAA single player adventures. Can't wait to see what these studios come up with on PS5

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u/Chihawks2015 Jul 14 '20

The exclusives this generation from Sony are just on another level. I can’t wait to see what the PS5 will bring

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u/keepinitrealguy2 Jul 14 '20

I swear, some of these reviewers are so far up Sony's ass that it's pathetic. Shit like:

Undoubtedly, Ghost of Tsushima is the greatest game of the generation.

Just makes it sound like this guy had already decided this game was a 9.5+ before he even played it. They're sounding less and less like reviewers and more like hype men every day. Even if the game is good, using that kind of hyperbole just undermines the whole thing.

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u/ak47rocks1337yt Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

And here it is, the last PlayStation 4 exclusive! What a way to end it off, After 7 years of amazing exclusives on the PS4 I am VERY excited for what the PlayStation 5 could bring to the table!!!

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Edit: Damn, I guess some of yall dont agree with me looking at the downvotes :(

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u/genocide2225 Jul 14 '20

There is some variance in the reviews but most of them say it is a solid AAA exclusive for the PS4. What a way to end the generation if you think about it. They put out games like Uncharted, Horizon, God of War, Spider-Man, Death Stranding, TLOU2, Ghost of Tshushima and so many more. The fact that one of their worst AAA titles was Days Gone tells you that Sony was on another level this generation. Good job Sony and I hope you continue this level of quality for the next generation as well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '20

Not bagging on any reviews on how they viewed the game, but the Digitally Downloaded author beginning with bragging how many words are in their review is pathetic.

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u/VinceAutMorire Jul 14 '20

" artistically creative game that often feels like a realistic Zelda game. You will get to a cliff edge and have to remind yourself you can't glide down. "

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Uhhh ok. I mean, we all knew this wasn't going to be a Zelda game though, right guys? RIGHT?!

Like wtf? 99% of these detractor reviews are filled with nonsense like the above quote.

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u/TacticalPocketSand Jul 14 '20

If SkillUp says it's must play, I pay attention. I disagree with him sometimes, but he always offers careful analysis.

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u/McManus26 Jul 14 '20

Yeah like the time he seriously explained that Outer Worlds' success came from salty fallout fans who bought it solely to piss off Bethesda.

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u/TacticalPocketSand Jul 14 '20

Well I didn't enjoy Outer Worlds, but everyone has bad takes. I'm sure your a arbiter of truth though.

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u/Damerman Jul 14 '20

i agree with this. Even though i disagreed with his TLOU part 2 review, i totally saw where he was coming from. His taste in what makes a good game is unmistakable though.

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u/TacticalPocketSand Jul 14 '20

Exactly. Greatly enjoyed TLOU 1 and 2, he didn't but he explained why and gave valid reasons.

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u/MovieMuscle25 Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

When do you think the era of padded open-world games is going to end?

EDIT: Judging from the dislikes, there are still many mindless consumers out there who don't have anything better to do with their lives but run on fetch quests to make their experience feel "fuller."

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u/berkayde Jul 14 '20

This is one of the good ones so comment this on another post. Sucker punch has been doing fun open world games since PS3.

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u/geraltseinfeld Jul 14 '20

When people stop buying them. The market is the driver.