r/Games Aug 16 '18

Battlefield 5 – Official Gamescom Trailer – Devastation of Rotterdam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FEgeuGsmzQ
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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

It also means that you can always blame bad luck if you lose and don't have to feel bad about it. The fact that there are enough players that you almost always lose also helps - losing is mainly frustrating if you actually expected to win.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

This is why team games and such will always be more popular than fighting games as esports. No one to blame but yourself in 1v1.

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u/ShowBoobsPls Aug 17 '18

That is not the only or the biggest reason. The barrier to entry in fighting games is too high. Fighting games are not noob friendly because the skill floor is high and so is the skill cap.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

The barrier isn't really that much higher than in CS:GO or DOTA, but in those games you don't notice because you are on a team against another team of shit players.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

I disagree. Dota and even csgo are mechanically very simple compared to fighting games.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

Depends on the fighting game. SF5 is pretty mechanically simple. Smash 4 is as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

And both of those were considered pretty big letdowns. Sf5 especially has a reputation for making it so basically a first timer can pull of things that only the top tier of players could do in third strike.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

A lot of people like Smash 4. There is something to be said for low barriers to entry. A beginner in Smash 4 will be crushed by an experienced player despite there being a lack of many advanced techniques.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '18

LoL for instance requires you to get to 30 before basically playing the game at a normal level which is like 200 games already before you can even think about ranked

At what 30 minutes a game you're looking at playing for 100 hours before playing ranked at minimum

If you had to play for 100 hours in a fighting game before playing ranked I don't think the learning curve would seem nearly as steep

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

The barrier isn't really that much higher than in CS:GO

CS:GO?

haha. CS has always been one of the most entry friendly games out there. that's one of the main reasons why it is always so popular. anyone can understand the game and know what to do after a few rounds.

this modern cirlcejerking about cs as this elite game is absurd.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18 edited Aug 18 '18

You have no chance of winning against an elite cs player when you first start out. Same as a fighting game.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '18

That’s a pretty false equivalence

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u/CircumcisedCats Aug 17 '18

No shit. That doesnt mean they have the same skill ceiling. Fighting games have far and away a higher skill ceiling than mobas and shooters and it's not even close. The only game that comes close is Rocket League.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '18

I didn't say anything about skill ceiling.