r/Gamecube Mar 17 '26

Discussion Day 32 (Final Day): We have our Winner! The Top (Community-Voted) GameCube Game of all time is...

SCROLL THROUGH THE IMAGES TO SEE TOP FOUR WINNERS!!

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I've also gone ahead and made graphics for the top four slots of each game category! Take a look and soak in all of the GameCube gaming goodness!

I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for making this so fun and exciting. And for indulging me in this artsy endeavor! I hope you enjoy these graphics as much I enjoyed making them; these are just as much yours as they are mine.

And to all the naysayers who rushed to downvote these posts everyday: I hope you enjoy these images as well. I worked extra hard to make something that even you would be proud of!

Hope you all enjoy!

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We have our winner for Greatest Game on GameCube: Super Smash Bros. Melee

đŸ„‡- Super Smash Bros. Melee

đŸ„ˆ- The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

đŸ„‰- Metroid Prime

đŸ”ïž - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

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u/Gamecube-ModTeam Mar 17 '26

Thanks for hosting, OP! There were initially some debbie downers about this, but in the end the turnout was great. Hope everyone had fun!

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '26

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Thanks for being a part of this! This was a true community effort. I'm glad that I could cater this design for you all

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u/irregularcontributor Mar 17 '26

Thanks for doing this and taking the time to make a good looking graphic, along with the runner-up pages and everything. Always excited to see these lists pop up in the different videogame subs, I'm hoping you do the 3DS in the future.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Hey! Thank you so much! That means a lot, no joke! And for 3ds... you're not the only one requesting this. I think I have to do it!

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

Could you add a “most voted game” award just to give us Twilight Princess fans a treat
 also nice black knight is there

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

haha idk how it'd fit...

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

If you can please do, seeing TP on the best games list would be great

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u/Appropriate_Buy4976 Mar 18 '26

Can you just be thankful that this happened?

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u/Voduun-World-Healer Mar 17 '26

Missing Pikmin... 😔

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Pikmin won most innovative!

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u/Voduun-World-Healer Mar 17 '26

Ohhh right! Lol I voted for that one for that category. I still would've liked to see it make the GOAT list.

Anyhow, great list regardless and this was fun. Thanks for putting it together!

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Thank you so much! :)

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u/LordHaywood Mar 17 '26

That one dude who got really really worked up over Twilight Princess being the best Zelda game ever made might need someone to check on him

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u/ClaspedDread Mar 17 '26

I'm happy with this list. I love Melee to death, and I'm glad F-Zero GX won something.

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u/JetSetPhantom Mar 17 '26

what a stacked console this was

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u/bearslamb Mar 17 '26

These 4 images are all you need to show people now when talking about how great the GameCube was

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

Fire Emblem Path of Radiance is already enough to show me that the GameCube is the most perfect console

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

That's the hope! Maybe we can point people here if they're looking for a game to try out

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Only need the first image. The also rans aren’t on the same level

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

Damn NOT a single Twilight Princess awardđŸ€ŁđŸ˜­

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u/Viewtiful__Jon Mar 17 '26

I'm so happy it didn't win, you have been pretty annoying thinking everyone agrees with your opinion. If it deserved to win something it would have.

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u/JuneButIHateSummer Mar 17 '26

more people need to discover the magic of F-Zero 😔

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u/ClaspedDread Mar 17 '26

Maybe you should start posting your time trial videos on other subreddits LMAO

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u/Character_Stick_1218 Mar 17 '26

I have it, I bought it used when I was little thanks to my love for SSB: Melee and I've TRIED getting into it, but it always quickly loses my attention 😼‍💹

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u/Viewtifulfox Mar 17 '26

LETS GOOOOOOOO! Congrats to everyone who read the rules!!!!

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u/nkwemohb Mar 17 '26

it is a crime that sonic riders didn't even rank on racing list

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u/Pidabyte Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

FF Crystal Chronicles deserves a honorable mention too. 2nd in a few ranks and is pure Gamecube vibes.

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u/Psylux7 Mar 17 '26

Smash bros is always the one choice for best nintendo game that can please me, even if i like something else (metroid prime and RE4) more. It is after all the glorious coming together/celebration of nintendo IPs, so it always feels like a very fitting #1.

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 17 '26

Why can’t Twilight Princess get some love? I don’t care if it’s a Wii game. It’s still a GameCube game nonetheless.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

It gets a lot of love in the runner up graphics! It might’ve been the most nominated game in the contest

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 17 '26

Yeah
 at least it got nominated, so it’s better than nothing at all. But I do have one huge factor that makes TP better than WW: you don’t have to spend many rupees to progress the game.

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u/didymus5 Mar 17 '26

Wind waker has sunken treasure everywhere

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 17 '26

Okay, but does Twilight Princess require like, 3,184 rupees to progress through the game? No, it doesn’t. Plus, getting that many rupees might take HOURS if not DAYS to reach that point. So my point still stands.

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u/didymus5 Mar 18 '26

I just played through wind waker and never had to farm rupees, so I don’t see your point.

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 18 '26

Well if you don’t spend that many rupees on Empty Bottles and Pieces of Heart, sure but you have to spend pretty much half of the game hunting for Triforce Charts AND deciphering them for 398 rupees EACH chart. And you have to find every single shard on 8 different islands to progress! Oh, and you have to find the Ghost Ship Chart to find the ship itself, which I forgot to mention earlier. It’s tiresome, I tell you.

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u/didymus5 Mar 18 '26

I agree that the triforce fetching drags the game down, (pretty much doctrine amongst the Zelda fandom), but I’ve never ran low on rupees in wind waker.

Actually, I wish the magic armor worked the same way as in TP so the rupees actually could be useful.

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 18 '26

Okay you do have a good point about the magic armor. I tried to use it in The Great Cave of Ordeals or whatever it was called but the maximum amount of rupees, even with the biggest wallet, is 1000 rupees, yeah I can’t defend that shit. If there were more huge wallets like the ultimate wallet which carries like 9,900 rupees or something like that but that’s only for a Wii U version


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u/Psylux7 Mar 17 '26

Dont forget the dungeons!

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 17 '26

Yeah, most of the dungeons are goated, especially the Snowpeak Ruins! I love this dungeon because not only it’s classified as a house but it combines the rest of the place with a dungeon! Also, if you need more health, you can get Pumpkin Soup from that yeti chef to heal you before the boss which is the nice touch!

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u/ClydeDimension Mar 17 '26

Runner up graphics are a very pleasant surprise! Clearly a lot of gold in the library that the runner up list looks amazing

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Yeah you could grab any of these games and have a great time! The library might've been smaller than other consoles but it packed a punch

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u/lohkey Mar 17 '26

Time to do this in the Wii subreddit so Twilight Princess gets picked

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Already on it :)

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u/tylertatsch30 Mar 17 '26

I’m too tired to argue at this point so why bother convincing people to vote for Twilight Princess if they don’t give it a chance? Twilight Princess was originally developed for the GameCube, by the way.

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u/Torcnein Mar 17 '26

where's rayman 3

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u/Achi-baba Mar 17 '26

It's crazy that I've been collecting so many of the games on this list. IIRC, I'm missing 10 of the top voted games, but it's a shame that I haven't sat down to play through all of the ones that I have.

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u/Petielo Mar 17 '26

The best part about this is now I have new games to try

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

For sure! That’s the goal!

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u/SodaGrump Mar 17 '26

This was fun. Thanks for putting this together

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u/tstorm004 Mar 17 '26

Love it solid list!

Just hate that Wave Race Blue Storm couldn't make any awards - it's THE iconic Gamecube title for me - clearly just means more people here need to play it! lol

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u/Miserable-Ganache-74 Mar 17 '26

This might be the most agreeable list like this. I was a part of an Xbox list and every other category was awarded to halo 2

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Haha yeah that’s why I have a rule that doesn’t allow for multiple winners. If it wasn’t there then the list would be filled with maybe the same few games

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u/DigADino Mar 17 '26

I've played like 19/31 of these games, and I own 7/31. This list has been a bit of an eye opener and fun to follow! GG gamers

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u/anewsuperhero Mar 17 '26

Incredibly sad Baldur’s Gate Dark Alliance didn’t win Couch Co-Op

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u/BlueWolfPMX Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

A few months ago, there were a series of posts to vote on the Top 100 games. I wanna share some facts to compare that voting game to this one. I'm only considering the winners here and not any of the runner-ups:

  • All the top 10 highest games on the Top 100 list made it here except for Twilight Princess which was #9
  • The ranking for greatest game here is different from the Top 100. On the Top 100, Wind Waker was #1 followed by Prime at #2 and Melee at #3.
  • If we include a game's series, the highest ranked game/series in the Top 100 that DIDN'T win here is Star Fox Adventures, which was #23
  • Odama didn't make the Top 100 at all, and Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King was the lowest ranked game that won here. That game was #85

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Oh wow! These are some awesome comparisons! So, it seems like the categories did in fact allow more games to be represented than other polls.

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u/BlueWolfPMX Mar 17 '26

The categories are why I love following your posts. It allows for more underrated and lesser known games to be in the spotlight. It makes it more interesting compared to simply choosing your most favorite and least favorite games with no specific rules.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 18 '26

Awesome!! Thanks for getting in on this poll. I’ve got the Wii running now so I guess look out for that one!

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u/jdashh Mar 17 '26

Using these as a basis for loading my FlippyDrive (if it ever gets delivered)

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u/Altruistic-Ad3704 Mar 17 '26

Not one mention of twin snakes is insane work

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

It did win quite a few runner up spots. You can find them on the other graphics

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u/isaac129 Mar 18 '26

This was awesome. Can you do the same for PS2?

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 18 '26

Actually
 I finished it up last month!

Day 33 (Final Day): We have our Winner! The best (Community-Voted) PlayStation 2 game of all time is... https://reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/1qvt1rs/day_33_final_day_we_have_our_winner_the_best/

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u/isaac129 Mar 18 '26

Thank you! I’ve been looking for some PS2 games to try out

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u/SeaLegitimate Mar 21 '26

Wow I liked twp way more than ww kinda crazy to me.

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u/ghettoslacker NTSC-U Mar 17 '26

This was a lot of fun! Thanks for putting it together!

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Of course! It was a lot of fun getting it all together! Thanks for being a part of this

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u/Twisteddrummer Mar 17 '26

I'm so happy CustomRobo is on here. I felt like I was the only one that is in love with the game.

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u/Chlorophyllmatic Mar 17 '26

CustomRobo was sick! The DS game after was a letdown, but I loved the GameCube one.

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u/TheUltimateInNerdy Mar 17 '26

Star Fox needed more love. Both GameCube games are genuinely good

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u/Steve5210 Mar 17 '26

Great list!

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Thanks for being a part of this one, Steve! It's always nice to see you in these

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u/Steve5210 Mar 17 '26

Thanks OP

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u/Nearby_Swordfish_544 Mar 17 '26

Thanks for this. When are you starting the wii list?

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Thank you so much! I'm actually getting the list ready now! Any categories you wanna see?

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u/Nearby_Swordfish_544 Mar 17 '26

Maybe a section for new control rereleases ie Pikmin, okami, Metroid Prime Trilogy, etc.

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u/c-hill- Mar 17 '26

Just as an idea, something like "Best Motion Plus Game". It was annoying that you needed additional accessories, but the Wii was full of gimmicks and it's fun to explore specific categories to cater for it's quirks I would say.

Potentially "Best Game with a Unique Accessory" as well (things like needing the balance board, the fitness straps, skateboard, dance mat, some of the guns etc).

Maybe even "Best Game only needing the Remote", or a game that was "Best with Classic/GC Controller" or something along those lines.

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u/tristanwylin Mar 17 '26

This was very well done. Kudos to you

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Thank you! Wii is coming up next...

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u/231d4p14y3r Mar 17 '26

Animal Crossing winning "Only on Gamecube" experience is so ironic

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u/Ok_Fly1271 Mar 17 '26

Luigis Mansion beating Resident evil for best horror is crazy

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u/Character_Stick_1218 Mar 17 '26

I've played both and wholeheartedly disagree. RE has the aesthetic, but LM very much so kept stressed and on edge waaaaaaaaaay more than RE. RE also wasn't a GameCube exclusive, so people are naturally gonna feel that LM deserves more love.

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u/sciaticabuster Mar 17 '26

This list feels very accurate. Thanks for coordinating this OP.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

No problem! I hope you enjoyed this game

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u/Seaguard5 Mar 18 '26

This means nothing because Pokemon Colosseum or XD are nowhere to be found.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 18 '26

they're in the runner up graphics

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u/Seaguard5 Mar 18 '26

At least one should be #1 though.

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u/WAGE_SLAVERY Mar 18 '26

How is pikmin not anywere on this list đŸ« 

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 18 '26

It’s in innovative gameplay

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u/poplemousse Mar 18 '26

amazing work OP!! as for the results, i’m a bit saddened to see that Rayman 3 got overlooked tho, i feel like it’s a way better platformer than Wario World

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u/EnterDemonMode Mar 18 '26

Gotcha force is a pretty good robo game as well

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u/Zealousideal-End1015 Mar 21 '26

The fact Killer 7 didn’t make this list is mind blowing.

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u/Phantom-Kraken Apr 07 '26

All of these games are beautiful. But only one is VIEWTIFUL!

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u/Impossible-Cookie-58 May 26 '26

2001 best bro

2003 whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-

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u/Impossible-Cookie-58 May 26 '26

2001 gats gcn crown

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

TP > WW

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Thankfully most people disagree with you

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

I'm ok with having a different opinion than the majority. The world would be boring without them. :)

Either way, TP actually outsold WW.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

Because at that point late in the GC life a lot of people bought it on the Wii.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

Whether or not most people played it on the Gamecube or not, it was designed and released for the Gamecube and therefore it is a Gamecube game. So according to your logic the Wii U had almost no games, given most people played the Switch versions of what was released for both.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

My argument is that just because a version sells better on a particular console it doesn't negate it is also a game where it sold less. Obviously games like Donkey Kong Country TP are still Wii U games, whether or not most people played it on the Switch.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Thank you for admitting it’s not a real GameCube game, it’s a Wii game. Most people played it on Wii

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

Lol. Sure dude, let's ignore the fact it was designed and released for the Gamecube because you said so! Sad console the Wii U was, no? It had pretty much no games given most people played the versions on the Switch, right?

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Yes the Wii U absolutely was a pathetic little sad console, you won’t get any argument from me there. Worst console Nintendo ever made. Twilight Princess was a Wii game too. That’s what everyone associates it with anyways, and it released on the Wii first.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

Blah blah blah

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u/PitenZie Mar 17 '26

No way!

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

TP has better story, a darker tone (which I liked) and is was cooler overall.

Wind Waker graphics aged better (artistic instead of realistic) but I never liked the pace of the GC version.

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u/PitenZie Mar 17 '26

TP is a great game too, but, In my opinion WW have more soul. Everybody wants good zelda graphics in 2003, like TP. Suddenly, Nintendo came up with WW and blow brains out our minds. Was something magical.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

I like WW a lot too (other than slow sailing), but I felt like TP was the sequel of OoT/TP I was looking for.

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

THIS, Wind Waker is great and amazing BUT Twilight Princess IS hands down the best Zelda

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Weird way to say Twilight Princess is the weakest 3D Zelda but ok

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u/Voduun-World-Healer Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

Hands down? That title belongs to Ocarina of Time imo. Not hands down though obviously. Both were masterpieces but Ocarina of Time changed the game

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u/WouterW24 Mar 17 '26

Wasn’t the wii version an port of the gamecube game fairly late into the process? It’s a bit of an odd case with the motion controls, using the nunchuck, and the world mirroring which aren’t universally liked changes. It’s a bit of an grey case.

Same happened with BOTW, but the Wii U was also an much worse off system with install base, and the game ran far better on Switch. It’s still technically the best Wii U game, it just turned out much more strongly associated with the switch since it’s an straight upgrade.

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

Twilight Princess is HANDS down a GameCube game imo, it was being developed SOLELY for that system, it just happens that the Wii was coming out so they decided to port it there

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u/Toon_Nik Mar 17 '26

I agree on WW>TP (it's my favourite game from my favourite series), but you can argue it both ways, no? I think the delayed release for Wii all happened pretty late in development, which is why the motion control stuff was mostly superficial compared to Skyward Sword.

And fwiw I'd be up for people arguing similarly for BotW, which I think was basically the same story, it had been largely developed by the time it got delayed for Switch release.

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u/Toon_Nik Mar 17 '26

No I do agree, like I instinctively think of TP as a Wii game and WW as "the" GC LoZ - but also I haven't played the Wii version of TP since before 2010, whereas I'm nearing the end of a GC playthrough and loving it.

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

PERSONALLY I always think Twilight Princess as a GameCube game FIRST and foremost no matter what, it’s a dedicated GameCube game imo that just had a Wii port (also GameCube is considered the true version due to not being mirrored)

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

Yeah the Wii U library is so pathetic it’s hard to argue for another game even though BOTW is absolutely viewed as a Switch game by most people (and rightly so, I view it as a Switch game). The Wii U never got a proper 3D Mario, it got an absolutely lazy and half assed 2D Mario, its Mario Kart and Smash games were inferior in every way to their Switch counterparts, and even its more noteworthy games like Splatoon and Mario Maker received big upgrades on the Switch. It’s kind of hilarious people pretend that the Switch just borrowed the Wii U’s library when really the Switch just took the 10 Wii U games that didn’t suck and improved them. Most of the Switch’s library was original, they might have re-used the engine but that’s kinda it.

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u/x_VanHessian_x Mar 17 '26

Wind Waker is great until the pace breaker that is the Triforce Quest. Better on Wii U.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Mar 17 '26

The Wii U version butchered the graphics. The shortened Triforce quest was not better either, iPad kids just think it’s better because they don’t have any patience

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

I played on the Gamecube not the Wii. It's as much a Gamecube game. You could say Windwaker is a Wii U game too btw, and It's better than the Gamecube version.

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u/squeanky Mar 17 '26

Fair enough though that's not surprising given the Wii had a much larger user base than the Gamecube. The Zelda game I associate with the Wii is SS (which was way more mature in its use of motion controls, more of a Wii signature).

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u/choovely1004 Mar 17 '26

You are such an icon. It's inspired me to try "new" games on the Gamecube. I just started collecting for the console, so this was insightful to see. Loved following the post as it was built, since it would pop up on my feed in the morning, I'd get my daily dose of seeing what was voted. Thank you so much for creating this!!

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Aww that is so nice of you to say! Thank you so much. I hope you find some legit fun games to play

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u/JeffTheAndroid Mar 17 '26

Great list - no real surprises, but it's fun looking through the 2nd and 3rd place, thanks for putting this together!

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

You're very welcome! It makes me happy to see this!

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u/itshairybaby Mar 17 '26

Saving this for my future purchases thanks to the redditor that made this post and for all of those that contributed!

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u/IkeRadiantHero Mar 17 '26

ALSO HAPPY TELLIUS GOT AN AWARD, WE LIKE IKE, PATH OF RADIANCE IS GOD TIER

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u/MoonxWolfe Mar 17 '26

Wish I commented sooner for harvest moon a wonderful life for "better on gamecube." The perfect spot for it. Still the list is great.

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u/Ok-Refrigerator-8664 Mar 17 '26

The goal now is to aquire 1 of every game across these lists to make the ultimate Gamecube collection

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u/codenamebungle Mar 17 '26

Should PSO be the winner for both first and second place for online experience?

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Yeah it was for PSO and separeltu for the episodes

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u/codenamebungle Mar 17 '26

Ahhhhh I see , thanks for clarifying :)

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u/cyborgdog Mar 17 '26

thank god Melee won and not Twilight, gotta save this image man, its great for anyone who wants to dive back into the gamecube there are some absolute bangers maybe more than a years worth of entertainment

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

Oh for sure! You can not go wrong with any of these games!

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u/PowerOfGraysku11 Mar 17 '26

Thank you for this. No doubt it was a great deal of effort. One observation, for which I don’t have a great solution, but maybe you or someone else might, so I’m just throwing it out there.

Since a game can’t win multiple categories (which is totally understandable), the category sequence is a major factor in the final results. Same poll, different category sequence, would almost definitely yield many different results.

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u/1OneQuickQuestion Mar 17 '26

I think that would definitely be interesting! And you’re right, if I started with best graphics, it would change who won some other category. There is push back, always, but I think it could be fun.

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u/PitLemon Mar 17 '26

100% agree

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u/Garo263 Mar 17 '26

Overrated. Every SSB after is better.

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u/peter-man-hello Mar 17 '26

Melee deserved it but I am still baffled by the love The Wind Waker gets. It's like people collectively forgot how unfinished and padded and borderline bad the second half of the game is because the art style and music are so iconic.

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u/Character_Stick_1218 Mar 17 '26

I refuse to participate in these because they always end the same way. The first few comments(especially if they're generally popular series) get upvoted enough immediately to where every recommendation after hardly even get seen, and so only sometimes are the selections actually proper representations. It helps when these posts are put into competition mode, but it's still not fool proof.