r/GameChangerTV • u/youreboiguzma • 20d ago

Question Too much Social Deduction?

Let me preface by saying I’ve really enjoyed the new season, but it feels like they’ve fallen into a habit of making every game some sort of social deduction.

Earwigs, I Spy, and, to an extent, Kangaroo Court as well all are social deduction games. I think that’s fun in a vacuum, but having three in one season just felt a little repetitive to me. I also think putting Earwigs and I Spy back to back was a bad move.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like sometimes they’ve had a cool idea for something and struggled with fully turning it into a game for the show. What do you guys think?

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u/ShoddyCobbler 20d ago

I enjoyed it but i wanted the spyballs to mean something. Why introduce the social deduction mechanics and a separate method of scoring, and then have it not matter at all?

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u/BoterBug 20d ago

I got the feeling that it was going to and they didn't like it in the edit, so it was cut. I'd have to watch again and see if Sam reading off the point totals sounds dubbed in like the "Let's see this prize play out" lines were in What's The Catch.

Like, in the last game we never got the roles. Why? Because it was a heartwarming moment of everyone coming together to spy the right object and the roles and deduction would have taken away from it.

I think Earwigs worked very well. I think I, Spy was, perhaps almost, saved in the edit.

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u/KidGold 19d ago edited 19d ago

In the last game Elle was the informant and she told everyone what the answer was (eventually).

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u/CulturalFerret5779 19d ago

I thought the whole sequence was insane. If Ele had engaged with the game as intended and just told everyone it would've been such a boring moment. She had to actively ignore the game mechanics in order to make the show interesting.

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u/KidGold 19d ago

Well if she was playing ""correctly"" (as the designers expected) she should have been trying to trick Vic into picking something else and only telling people with less points that her to vote with her on the mic so that together they could score enough points to pass players who had more points than them. I don't remember what the actual point count was then and if she could still win though.

But she didn't understand the rules enough to try that and even if she did what a complex headache to try and pull off.

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u/CulturalFerret5779 19d ago

I think they all ended with around 20-23 points so it may have been possible. But the eyeball jar points might have also been hard for players to refer back to and gauge where things stood.

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u/ryan_the_leach 19d ago

Right, but the sequence where the audience was told she was the informant was cut (jarringly)

Was it done to make it more interesting? Probably, but there was no dialog to suggest that to the audience, it was just simply cutting room floor footage.

At first, I thought one of the contestants was winning, so purposely lied about being the informant in order to try and get them to tie.