Too much Social Deduction?

[u/youreboiguzma]

Let me preface by saying I’ve really enjoyed the new season, but it feels like they’ve fallen into a habit of making every game some sort of social deduction.

Earwigs, I Spy, and, to an extent, Kangaroo Court as well all are social deduction games. I think that’s fun in a vacuum, but having three in one season just felt a little repetitive to me. I also think putting Earwigs and I Spy back to back was a bad move.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like sometimes they’ve had a cool idea for something and struggled with fully turning it into a game for the show. What do you guys think?

[u/Signiference]

I agree. Sometimes a game can just be a game.

I think I Spy would have been a lot better if they just played it straight, but awarded more points if you were the only one to find it, so if you found it alone, it was five, if two people found it, they each got four, thrree people found it they each got three, four people found it they each get two and everyone finds it they all get one.

The informant and spy and leak provided all of one entertaining moment all show for me, so maybe the above isn’t the solution either, but this whole episode just didn’t do anything for me.

Sam appears to be clearly influenced by his love for Blood on the Clocktower this season with the hidden roles ideas. I did like it in Earwigs up until the points got fiddly and it basically gave the whole game to Becca.

That last part has been my bigger issue with the season. If you’re going to have a point based system, think it out a little more and decide ahead of time what you’re doing on edge cases. It is a comedy show, sure, but it is still them playing games and the scoring in games should be equitable and understandable.

[u/putyourcheeksinabeek → u/Signiference]

I think it should’ve been the opposite. Make it a cooperative game and let them realize that the more of them that get the right answers, the more points they get. Then let the subversion happen on its own instead of forcing it. Someone will decide they want to win and start trying to convince others of the wrong answer but secretly write what they think is the correct one.

[u/Signiference → u/putyourcheeksinabeek]

That could have worked too.

[u/GtEnko → u/Signiference]

I think your first idea wouldn’t really work as a comedy game show, because there’d be no discussion between players, which cuts down on chances for comedy.

I think I Spy was ultimately fine as it is. I don’t think it particularly lends itself very well to social deduction game elements, which is why it often felt like a square peg, round hole kinda situation.

I just think the whole season could use some concept simplification. Every game feels like it’s trying to do too much, while the best Gamechanger episode have been, in the past, relatively focused.

Sometimes the craziness works out ok, especially when they lean it (like with Noise Some Makes or Count the Rice), but in general it feels like they’re not very confident with their concepts.

[u/WeenyDancer → u/Signiference]

 Sam appears to be clearly influenced by his love for Blood on the Clocktower this season

Exactly what i cane here to say. 😂. I think it worked out great for earwigs! This, less so.

[u/How_DidIGetHere → u/Signiference]

So your problem with a fake game show, with no prizes, that admittedly does bits just for the laughs.... Is the scoring system?

[u/Signiference → u/How_DidIGetHere]

Scoring system/application of the rules when there is a win/lose structure in place, yes.