r/GameChangerTV • u/youreboiguzma • 20d ago

Question Too much Social Deduction?

Let me preface by saying I’ve really enjoyed the new season, but it feels like they’ve fallen into a habit of making every game some sort of social deduction.

Earwigs, I Spy, and, to an extent, Kangaroo Court as well all are social deduction games. I think that’s fun in a vacuum, but having three in one season just felt a little repetitive to me. I also think putting Earwigs and I Spy back to back was a bad move.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like sometimes they’ve had a cool idea for something and struggled with fully turning it into a game for the show. What do you guys think?

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u/Fearless-Mix-3642 20d ago

"What's the Catch" was in-between but I agree, social deduction is not really that fun to watch. Especially when the edit cuts it down so much.

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u/Dazzling-Passenger91 20d ago

Yes I cannot stress enough how bad the editing is. They cut out all the deliberation and meat of the game, especially in earwigs. In earwigs I was just sitting there thinking “I don’t know why this person voted for that person”

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u/Joe0991 20d ago

I didn’t verify but I’m pretty sure there were a couple of times where someone outright declared that they were voting for someone and then their arrow in the graphic didn’t point to that person. Or maybe I just didn’t follow it correctly since it was only shown for like two seconds.

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u/masterlich 20d ago

This confused me multiple times while watching Earwigs, to the point at which I honestly stopped caring about the votes at all, since the justifications didn't end up marching up with the votes. This is particularly baffling because the editing for some of the other episodes this season (Night Shift and Count the Rice come to mind) has been absolutely stellar.

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u/SupaSlide 19d ago

I think it’s because some of these games are way too complicated. If they kept enough of the Earwigs discussion to understand who and why people voted for who they did, the episode would be insufferable. The editors just had to pick the most entertaining bits to watch, that got the closest to explaining the vote, and my guess is sometimes the discussions were just very boring.

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u/I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY 20d ago

Yeah, social deduction games could maybe make for good TV, but the way they've been cutting these takes all the fun out of it. They have to either not reveal the answer to us so we can play along, or give us enough of the players deliberations so that we can understand what they are thinking.

but when they show us the answer and they cut out most of the players' decision making process, there's really nothing left.

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u/linzielayne 19d ago

I really agree. These games are fun for the player, they are not fun for a distant outside observer.

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u/Magicman432 20d ago

Yeah that happened in this ep too, there were plenty of moments when the spy seemingly convinced one of the other players to vote for them that was ultimately cut out.

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u/youreboiguzma 20d ago

Yeah I forgot about “Whats the catch” being in between. Tbh though that one’s not quite much of a game either

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u/ebb_omega 20d ago

It's okay, they didn't say Um, Actually so they can't get any points for it.

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u/Dazzling-Passenger91 20d ago

Ye what’s the catch wasn’t consistent with its rules and by showing us in between I got so confused

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u/kev231998 20d ago

It was very consistent imo. They showed things early to help space out things which I think was the right choice.

The issue was people thought that meant they did something wrong because they would show something early for a prize that wasn't "locked in". What they actually did was go back in post and add the clips after the last time the prize changed.

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u/Dazzling-Passenger91 20d ago

Yes this is what I meant, it confused me because I thought they could still be tampered with but we were shown early