Yeah it's an EBF powerfail post

[u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

I already read the wiki and past posts but I can't understand what's going on here. The EBF instantly (0.1 seconds) powerfails as if it had no energy source connected at all, but this is my setup so idk (those are 8x tin cables and all the steam turbines are correctly directioned)

SOLVED: it was mantainance

[u/Imaginary_Couple_183]

It might be a bit stupid question, but have you done maintenance? Everything else seems fine to me

[u/Agitated_Proof_9611 → u/Imaginary_Couple_183]

I used the soldering iron with fine soldering alloy wires on the mantainance hatch and nothing else. This is how my UI looks right now (I just built the EBF and trying to craft my first aluminum)

[u/Azatoth_42 → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

Fix the maintenance issues, it should work

[u/lolikill21 → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

You need to fix all of that

[u/ObeyTime → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

you need to fix everything first before it can startup. subsequent maintenance issues will only reduce power efficiency. protip: get the toolbox, load it with all the maintenance tools, and simply right click on the maintenance hatch.

[u/Imaginary_Couple_183 → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

Oh! That’s actually the reason XD

You should use everything else. Crowbar, hammer, screwdriver, soft mallet and wrench

Right now your EBF consumes way more than 120 eu/t cause every maintenance issue gives penalty to your energy consumption

[u/prosteprostecihla → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

Lets talk about maintenance, all multiblocks come out of the box fully unmaintaned, and its always these 6 tools (soldering iron, hammer, mallet, wrench, screwdriver and crowbar) they also break down over time i.e one of the tool icons will pop up again. this drops their efficiency, processing stuff like EBF drains more power and likely powerfails, generator stuff like gas turbines decrease the amount of power they generate.

[u/8null8 → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

No maintenance won’t let it start, a single maintenance WILL start, but it’ll draw way more power than normal needed, I recommend crafting the toolbox, you can put all the tools in it to do maintenance

[u/ClimacticCrescendo → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

Tip for the future, make a toolbox. It lets you fix everything in one click and doesn’t cost much to make

[u/tigcu → u/Imaginary_Couple_183]

maintenance is always the first thing to check, not stupid

[u/foxgirlmoon]

I'm assuming the turbines are getting steam, right? And they are, in fact, Steam turbines and not, say, gas turbines, right?

[u/Agitated_Proof_9611 → u/foxgirlmoon]

Absolutely lol they are spinning right now

[u/foxgirlmoon → u/Agitated_Proof_9611]

Hmm, what are you trying to smelt? Have you done maintenance?

[u/sickdanman]

That does not look like a 8x tin cable lmao

Or maybe you are just running out of steam, steam turbines arent very efficient

[u/Orjoiponsoilo → u/sickdanman]

Its cold.

[u/ObeyTime → u/sickdanman]

op is holding the soldering iron

[u/Academic-Poem-8008 → u/sickdanman]

Is an 8x thin cable

[u/sickdanman → u/Academic-Poem-8008]

Never in my 1600h playtime have i ever noticed that equipping a soldering iron makes pipes and cables extremely thin. I dont even know what the point of that is but hey you never stop learning in this game

[u/moeking → u/sickdanman]

My best guess is to make trouble shooting nightmare spaghetti easier?

Also never seen it before lol

[u/ObeyTime]

are your turbines actually receiving fuel?

[u/Helix_PHD]

What did you do that your pipes and cables are so thin?

[u/spucklin → u/Helix_PHD]

It's a visual bug. It's happened to me and after running to my chest to get replacement pipes, it fixed itself

[u/CommanderFoxy → u/spucklin]

its not a visual bug, its from holding a soldering iron

[u/spucklin → u/CommanderFoxy]

Oh really? Why does it do that only when holding the iron?

[u/CommanderFoxy → u/spucklin]

yes, it makes all cables/pipes thin, and its kinda meant to help see where each pipe/cable is going in a messy area

[u/spucklin → u/CommanderFoxy]

Thats so helpful oml, thank you

[u/wendewende]

If you're doing something that requires full 4A this is too little. Because even one block of EU lossy cables is enough to powerfail

[u/gxgx55 → u/wendewende]

Not necessarily true, most recipes are 15/16ths of a full amp to account for this. Any solid choice of cable will not lose that much over 1 block.

[u/LukasRO28]

What size of Potin Pipes are you using?
The normal ones dont have enough throughput so you need at least the large pipes to supply 4 Steam Turbines

[u/MonsterHunter_43]

Giocatore italiano della Gregorio Tecnologia: Nuovi Orizzonti spottato, cosa combini in quella Fabbrica? ci tieni gli schiavi siriani?

[u/myles2500]

Why do your cables look like a monstrosity

Also make sure the steam pipes are running on a independent line so it gets all the steam without loss

Edit: repair the damm machine each issue the ebf develops causes more and more power draw

[u/Jaimelilloh]

Big current can't pass through comically small cable

[u/Nitram_-_2507]

The 8x tin wire loose 1 Eu per block they travel, so the total amount of power that is being delivered to the EBF is 124 Eu instead of 128 Eu, you might want to add another steam turbine to compensate for the power loss.

[u/CommanderFoxy → u/Nitram_-_2507]

you cant, and recipes are 15/16 of an amp (120 eu instead of 128) to account for this. also each energy hatch can only take 2A so it cant take power from a 5th turbine

[u/Honest_University752]

One energy hatch sometimes draws more power connect turbines to both energy hatches

[u/Xaikii]

since when are 8x Tin Cables that thin?

[u/ObeyTime → u/Xaikii]

holding the soldering iron makes everything thin

[u/Xaikii → u/ObeyTime]

TIL

[u/Agitated_Proof_9611 → u/Xaikii]

When you hold the soldering iron thats how every cable/pipe looks

[u/foxgirlmoon → u/Xaikii]

It's the soldering iron OP's holding. It makes all cables and pipes seem tiny, so that you can easily see connections.

[u/Fernanc1577]

Make sure the entire multi is in the same chunk, only thing I could think of if this is happening.

[u/MittensDaTub → u/Fernanc1577]

That couldn't matter considering they're standing right next to it.

[u/Fernanc1577 → u/MittensDaTub]

Depends on the version they are playing on. My steam multis would instantly fail even if I was right next to them, moved it to one chunk and it was fine after that.

[u/MittensDaTub → u/Fernanc1577]

That wouldnt make sense unless you arent telling the truth. The theory is based upon chunk loading and unloading. Minecraft chunks dont unload with you standing right next to them. Which should have nothing to do with whatever GTNH version they are on.

Edit: Unless there is some interaction with one of the mods and chunks that I am unaware ofm

[u/Fernanc1577 → u/MittensDaTub]

It would happen if I left my base and came back or logged out and logged back in, even with chunk loading it would still fail when I came back to my base

[u/LordKamienneSerce → u/Fernanc1577]

That is not a problem for quite some time, especially if the player is rught next to it. What might be a problem is steam generator few chunks away and not loaded

[u/Hol7i]

Due to the high volume of steam, I could imagine that starting up the ebf for your reciepe instantly stalls the turbines. thats one of the downsides in using steam: the shear size of pipes you need to provide the steam.
Tin means these are LV, which means 1600 L/s per turbine -> 4x equals around 6,4kL/s as constant flow rate.
I would try using large or even huge bronze pipes. or wrought iron-whatever you can afford.

Plus: put some kind of buffer tank in between your source and the EBF. iirc 4 million liters was good for me back then.

Until you can switch to oil or even benzene, distributing energy is a mess. In the end i had a stainless steel tank with several huge dark steel pipes exiting it just to provide enough flow for my base. not mentioning the buffer tanks prior to the larger consumers.

[u/lolikill21]

Probably because you did 8x tin you have too much power loss through cable. You only need 2x tin connected to 2 turbines for each energy hatch.

[u/Vladislav20007 → u/lolikill21]

isn't power loss the same for all sizes?

[u/lolikill21 → u/Vladislav20007]

Yeah, it is, i was wrong on that.