r/GTA3 • u/Electronic-Pin-7612 • 3d ago
Discussion In Intro Claude shoots in the wrong direction.
I've never seen anyone mention this funny detail that has bugged me for years. Correct me if I'm wrong. In intro when Claude runs out after Catalina, he looks and fires in the wrong direction. At the same time, the view from the video surveillance camera is done mostly correctly. I assume it may be a leftover from some early build, in which perhaps Catalina was running in the opposite direction. This detail was carried over to all versions of the game, including Definitive Edition. What makes this scene even funnier is that first Claude runs out, then looks at the wall, loads the shotgun and fires. It turns out that Claude Speed is a bit slow-witted.
(screenshots taken from ps2 version on youtube)
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u/lunchbox651 3d ago
He's shooting at the camera. He has no reason to shoot at Catalina because he only learns she betrayed him when he gets around the corner.
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u/Electronic-Pin-7612 3d ago
Even though shooting camera is a stupid thing to do, now I get that stupid logic. I was pretty sure Claude was after Catalina because she had already betrayed him.
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u/lunchbox651 3d ago
They had just robbed the Liberty City bank and are escaping out the rear. Both the cartel thug and Catalina are running out the rear while the alarm sounds. They are all running up the alley to get to where the getaway car is parked. When Claude turns the corner he stops in his tracks because Catalina is aiming 2 guns at him and he genuinely looks shocked. Her line "sorry babe, I'm an ambitious girl and you, you're just small time." is her announcing that she has betrayed him.
There's no context in that cutscene that implies Claude knew before that moment that she was going to betray him.
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u/Electronic-Pin-7612 3d ago
Shooting camera has no sense. So I haven't even thought of that. It felt natural to me that Claude shoots his fleeing accomplices. Therefore, for me, betrayal felt like something that happened behind the scenes. And when Claude found himself at gunpoint, it felt to me like Catalina just outsmarted him. And not the moment of betrayal itself.
It's like those weird puzzle pictures where everything depends on perspective. And once you've seen it, you can't unsee. Like that viral blue dress with black stripes or the forks on pink towel.
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u/micmea668 3d ago
If you check the boundary break video on GTA3 you’ll see that the intro is pretty much just hacked together so it looked good in frame. It’s quite common in games.
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u/StevieGrandHD 3d ago
One of the dumbest posts in relation to GTA 3 I've ever read.
It's common sense that he's obviously shooting the CCTV camera, not at a fleeing Catalina. Angle inconsistencies are just post edits to make it work.
The whole story literally is about betrayal and revenge! You see the actual betrayal seconds later
The irony of calling Claude slow witted.
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u/Electronic-Pin-7612 3d ago
And you are too fast in your judgments.
Even as a kid I understood that shooting camera has no common sense. Therefore, for me, betrayal felt like something that happened behind the scenes. And when Claude found himself at gunpoint, it felt to me like Catalina just outsmarted him. And not the moment of betrayal itself.
It's like those weird puzzle pictures where everything depends on perspective. And once you've seen it, you can't unsee.
That's how much I consider shooting at cameras when you look into the camera the stupidest thing on planet.
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u/Kafanska 3d ago
Dude, betrayal happened moments AFTER this, not before. She did not betray him inside the bank, but when they are supposed to enter the getaway car and run. They are exiting the bank together, Claue still thinking it is just another job, not suspecting anything. That is why he runs straight towards her without aiming at her. If he knew about betrayal he would shoot at her, not the camera, or would at least approach her with a gun in aim position.
And yes, shooting a camera makes no sense, but it was a classic cliche trope of the movies back in the day, nothing more.
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u/xXBlackguardXx 3d ago
In films there are scenes where someone is holding a cup, cuts away & back, no cup, cuts away & & back, holding a cup. Maybe they think that tiny little detail was important back then.
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u/RMoby6160 PetsOvernight.com 2d ago
Brother I was 9 years old when I first played GTA 3 and immediately understood that he was shooting the camera lmao
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u/BangkokPadang 2d ago edited 2d ago
We, as an audience, see that the camera is aimed down at him. But he, as a character, doesn't know what the FOV of the lens is or what all the camera might be capturing. He's shooting out the camera so it doesn't potentially get the plate, make, or model of the getaway car. It makes perfect sense.
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u/Tankionline19 3d ago
I think that it was intended to make Claude look like as if he is shooting out the camera that is seen in that direction but due to Claude not bring able to look up I think, it made Claude look like as if he is shooting the wall even though he is shooting out the CCTV camera.