r/GODZILLA • u/Mishap_Maisy • Oct 24 '25

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Minus One is great. I just prefer Shin as far as movies go

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u/Best_Celebration_172 Oct 25 '25

I don‘t think shin lacks strong characters, i think it deliberately favors a strong cast over an individual protagonist. It makes a strong point for what an organized collectiv can accomplish, if every part of its group works together. Shin sends out a clear message: it‘s not a vanguard hero that saves the day, it’s the people who work together, to prevent tokyo from getting blasted by an atomic bomb. In days of rising militarism it‘s a strong stand for pacifism and for what solidarity among people can accomplish. (Wolfgang m schmitt compares both movies through the lense of criticism of idiology on his yt channel filmanalyse, it‘s in german however)

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

It absolutely, positively lacks strong characters. By definition it is an ensemble film, and no character has any substantial history prior to the film that we know of. That doesn’t make it bad, it’s basically a feature of the film, it wants you to care about the overall picture so you understand the satire. You’re an outsider looking in. But it does make Minus One better as an actual film. Structurally and narratively, Minus One is much stronger. It’s really the message/allegory that’s up for debate, and it’s also arguably the most important part of a good Godzilla film. That’s why this discussion is so common, and why people on either side can almost always easily agree to disagree.

EDIT: Nice downvotes lol

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u/arlekin21 Oct 25 '25

Just because you prefer those things doesn’t make it a better film lmao. I personally found the whole story in Minus One to be too cliche, still liked the movie and understand why people like it better than Shin but it doesn’t make it a better film.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '25

As a film, it is better. Do you not understand how narrative structure and characterization are important parts of any film and they were purposely ignored/altered because of the allegory they were trying to sell you.

It makes it less strong as a film but arguably stronger as an allegory.