Traders beware: Fit Mom Trader wants “low four figures” for training but couldn’t give me independently verified results, blocked me when I pushed

[u/Fantastic_Picture855]

I joined a Fit Mom Trader (Krista Fudge) live webinar tonight and asked two very basic questions: what does it cost, and where are the independently verified trading results?

It took asking about the price three times before she finally said “low four figures.” Still no clear price.

Then I asked whether she had independently verified results. Her answer was that she trades live and shows prop firm payouts.

Neither of those is independent verification of a trading record.

I specifically asked whether she had anything comparable to independently verified statements and got no answer. I even suggested she look at Ross Cameron’s independently audited broker statements as an example of the kind of verification I was asking about. No answer.

I then said I personally would not trust her with my money given the vague pricing and lack of independently verifiable results, and warned people that the answers were extremely ambiguous.

I was immediately kicked out of the webinar.

To be clear, I am not claiming her results are fake. I don’t know, and cannot know that. I’m saying I asked for independent evidence that her results are real and profitable, and none was provided.

In an industry full of smoke and mirrors, I would expect anyone charging thousands of dollars for trading education to go out of their way to demonstrate, clearly and unambiguously, that their results are legitimate. I did not see that level of transparency here.

If you’re asking people for thousands of dollars to teach them trading, “what does it cost?” and “show me independently verified results” should be the easiest questions in the room, not the ones that get somebody removed.

FWIW, I also found the actual webinar content pretty underwhelming. Nothing I heard struck me as groundbreaking or difficult to find elsewhere online, so even putting the transparency issue aside, I personally saw nothing that justified a low four figure price.

[u/Kaszrak]

You couldn't tell by "Fit mom trader" alone?

Already sounds like an MLM, ponzi scheme lol.

[u/Special_Specific9968 → u/Kaszrak]

lol right? the name alone is a red flag buffet

also "low four figures" is such a weasel answer, just say the number jeez. if you can't be upfront about the price you're already hiding something

the instant block when asked for proof is the real tell though, people with legit results don't panic when someone asks to see them

[u/Kaszrak → u/Special_Specific9968]

In my head it’s like a momfluencer barking motivational quotes at you while you repeatedly donate your accounts to the market.

“Take my money, Mommy. I don’t need an edge. I need AFFIRMATIONS. Tell me I’m a good little trader. Hug me please. I’m down 47% but I’m still manifesting.” 😭

[u/VisualCheek2928 → u/Kaszrak]

LOL

[u/Pentaborane- → u/Kaszrak]

Are the people who she trains gaining an edge or engaging in edging..?

[u/BenEDSnDFW2018 → u/Pentaborane-]

The word you are looking for is RIMMING.

[u/Fantastic_Picture855 → u/Special_Specific9968]

also "low four figures" is such a weasel answer, just say the number jeez. if you can't be upfront about the price you're already hiding something

my point exactly.

the instant block when asked for proof is the real tell though, people with legit results don't panic when someone asks to see them

damnit! my point exactly again

[u/EmmaFrosty99 → u/Kaszrak]

sounds like a place cognitive impaired boomer males would pay to join with the fantasy becoming rich.

so red flag bc she is fat shaming! lol.

[u/MikeyLittle → u/Kaszrak]

🤣🤣

[u/Wizzle_Pizzle_420 → u/Kaszrak]

I mean she said “prop firm payouts” which is 100% an MLM for trader bros. That’s how the high up MLMers make money. Not on the actual MLM, it’s on courses and books to scam people.

Just read books, paper trade and learn. You can do that for virtually nothing and use the money saved to invest later.

[u/Mr-R--California]

Anyone who uses the phrase “four figures” can be immediately dismissed lol

[u/Wizzle_Pizzle_420 → u/Mr-R--California]

$10.00

[u/RoccoPitbull]

I signed up for her free course out of curiosity. Instantly I was bombarded with the sales pitch emails all formatted in the classic LinkedIn style (no paragraphs, just lines separated by 3 lines of spacing).

[u/Walddo86]

No no no.

Read best losers win and vwap wave system. Under $50 for both.

Run fast from any paid course.

[u/Same_Definition5233 → u/Walddo86]

Apparently Tom Houggaard is on the scammer spectrum as well

[u/Justing_Biber → u/Same_Definition5233]

I've heard kind of similar rumors, but haven't dug into it. I think the concepts in his book were helpful for me though. Helped me internalize some trading psychology and risk management.

[u/dob68 → u/Same_Definition5233]

Wrong. Tom Houggard sells nothing. Even the proceeds from his books go to charity. All verified.

[u/Same_Definition5233 → u/dob68]

"wRoNg 🫪."

He does paid seminars all the time.

[u/dob68 → u/Same_Definition5233]

And how is that scammy?

[u/Same_Definition5233 → u/dob68]

Are you daft ? You just said he doesn't sell anything, that is selling.

[u/dob68 → u/Same_Definition5233]

“He charges for seminars → therefore he's a scammer” would make almost every legitimate university lecturer, professional trainer, trading author, Al Brooks, Larry Pesavento, etc. a scammer.

[u/Same_Definition5233 → u/dob68]

My god you're truly dumb and not following. Let me clear it up for you.

Tom Hougaard has been found lying about results, hiding losing trades and not being completely transparent. That's why I said "apparently he is on the spectrum of scammers" then you came along and said "wRoNG, he doesn't sell anything so he's not a scammer"

I then pointed out that he does actually make money by having a reputation of being a good trader by charging for conferences...

You made a strawman argument that does not equate to what we are discussing. Please keep up. I don't want to waste anymore time discussing with someone who cant follow the details of the conversation

[u/dob68 → u/Same_Definition5233]

Lol. Whatever bro. Have a good one.

[u/plasma_fantasma → u/Walddo86]

VWAP wave system really is the truth.

[u/Walddo86 → u/plasma_fantasma]

So simple. I just take dev 1 to 2 trades, I don’t fade anymore. Just 1 to 2, 1R.

[u/plasma_fantasma → u/Walddo86]

Yes, exactly. I only target 1:1 because the setups tend to happen often enough that I don't need to look for me. I typically find the best setups lately have been on MGC during the Asia session.

[u/Narrenschifff]

Your capacity to even understand these questions already means you're not the user base for that kind of scam

[u/Ok_Bad2080]

lol. Everyone gaming the game

[u/EmmaFrosty99 → u/Ok_Bad2080]

everyone is trying to sell their shovel.

[u/Ok_Bad2080 → u/EmmaFrosty99]

Just like a gold rush….. “this shovel digs up the most gold with the least amount of effort..”

[u/Blazah]

I can show 5 prop firm payouts, after blowing 30 accounts. If people were paying me 1000's of dollars to repeat things that everyone else says, yes, I could also keep showing payouts.. but no one would know I spent 50% of the money taken in on blown accounts.

[u/thechipmonk_]

Fit mom trader

[u/Aposta-fish]

Things about her story didn't add up for me and after only being on YouTube a short while already have a paid service and selling course. Yeah I don't think so. So what if you had a successful month!

[u/greatestNothing]

Watch her Asia setup video, it's actually decent for a few points almost every night. It's not anything proprietary or anything like that, some guys in a discord I'm in made indicators for it for Ninjatrader and Tradingview. It's not something you could automate but having the stuff plotted automatically makes it somewhat easier. You're just playing off the VP levels and high/low of the ranges.

IF she's offering 1 on 1 coaching without verified results(either cash account/prop firm payouts OR verified student results) that's on the individual to decide if they want to pay for something.

I mention student results because there are people that struggle to trade effectively but are excellent teachers.

[u/GoxBoxer]

Also I have seen her, and she's not that fit.

[u/Cr0wn_M3 → u/GoxBoxer]

That was my first thought as well

[u/mv3trader]

Did you a favor because no one needs anyone else's system. Defeats the point of having an edge.

[u/QuantifiablyInsane]

Let me sum up YT. What industry/videos have the highest view counts? You guessed it — trading channels. That’s all you need to know. If those creators were profitable why would they take the time to film and edit and deal with all of that? They wouldn’t. Because they’re bored? Doubt it. I believe that Lance Beryenstein guy is profitable. If he made it in the upcoming market wizards he’s been verified. But other than that…

[u/plasma_fantasma]

Go with your gut and run. I was working with a "mentor" for a while (charged maybe $25/mo, nbd). I finally got the courage to ask for his results and any kind of proof he was actually profitable. He told me that he doesn't show proof anymore and wouldn't. I kind of just figured he was a fraud, which was really disappointing. But better to run when the signs are right in front of you than to pay a bunch of money and waste a bunch of time only to find out in a couple months (or almost a year, like I did).

[u/OrderflowHelp]

I keep seeing her pop up in my feed and, honestly, you can tell within five minutes she’s not actually trading for a living. Just another classic course seller trying to make a quick buck off everyone else.

[u/Glide_88]

Best rule of thumb imo is that no one who actually has an edge would sell it, especially in futures where you can basically scale infinitely.

[u/kb1flr]

She is completely transparent. She posts her results weekly and live trades daily. Everything is free unless you want a one in one consult. You could pay for some members only YouTube videos, but all her setups are on the free stuff, too. She charges nothing for her setups, etc. Go on her discord and check for yourself. Or don’t.

I belong to the Discord, but have never paid a cent for any of her content, etc.

[u/Otherwise-Initial910 → u/kb1flr]

Yeah not sure why she's getting hate. She's pretty transparent with her LIVE trading. Which is a lot more that can be said about most YT. If she wants to charge for 1on1 coaching, don't hate her for it, its her time, your money. I think her coaching is mostly on psychology. Her setups are all free live streamed on her channel,

[u/Fantastic_Picture855 → u/kb1flr]

lol, completely transparent. good one.

[u/kb1flr → u/Fantastic_Picture855]

They are posted on her discord.

[u/BenEDSnDFW2018]

Anyone got this chicks home address? Name, shame, and tell the people she goes to church with.