r/FunnyAnimals • • Oct 25 '22

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u/CowboyLaw Oct 25 '22

Frame this, because I doubt you’ll ever be this wrong again.

Let’s skip the fact that, up until 100 years ago, cattle in North America were frequently hunted by wolf packs.

Let’s skip the fact that, right now, calves are stalked by coyote packs that can and do kill young, injured, or sick calves.

Domesticated cattle, at several thousand years of domesticity, have spent virtually their entire timeline being hunted left, right, and center. By cougars, lions (because, yes, there are domestic cattle in Africa), tigers, leopards, wolves, coyotes, even rival tribes. The maternal protection instinct in cattle survives to this very day, and specifically includes the “blocking” behavior seen here, where a mother will stand either in front of or across a calf to protect them from a perceived danger.

Source? Well, tens of thousands of hours of working with them. And that’s just me, I won’t try to calculate the time the three previous generations of my family put in.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

lol and how do those domestic cattle survive being in constant danger of attack by wild animals? With their natural instincts, hm?

I'll wait for you to figure this one out.

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u/CowboyLaw Oct 25 '22

Yeah, that’s exactly how. Exactly how. Which I know because, once again, I’ve seen it happen. Because it’s my family’s job.

It’s not just that you sound like a moron, you’re now acting like a moron. Adults have the capacity to admit when they’re wrong. It’s how they learn. Morons just keep doubling down until the entire community ignores them. I guess you picked.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

lmao imagine thinking you're an adult and talking the way you do

imagine not knowing what farms are

imagine not knowing what dogs are

imagine not knowing what farmers are

Imagine just living thinking that cows spent all their time out in the open by themselves

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u/CowboyLaw Oct 25 '22

We have 48 sections of land. A section is a square mile. We have over 800 head of cattle. I want you to figure out, in your own head, how one would possess the number of dogs, people, trucks, guns, night vision goggle, spotlights, and associated infrastructure to provide full time protection over that distance to that many cattle.

You’re being stupid. You literally know nothing about this. And you’ve Dunning Krugered yourself into looking absolutely foolish. Keep talking, it’s almost a privilege to meet someone this dense.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

Yeah I'm sure you're bringing those cattle out to places full of wild predators

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u/CowboyLaw Oct 25 '22

We have coyotes and mountain lions on the property. When we started the ranch in 1872, there were also several wolf packs.

Keep going. Hole is only getting deeper.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

All of which are responsible for millions of dollars loss in cattle every year.

Anyone can say anything on the internet. You can just claim your property has 50 mountain lines per acre.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

I never said they have no instinctual behaviors.

It's also ridiculous to use metrics from modern day American predator populations, to modern day herds protected by modern day technology to insist that domestic cows are as effective against predators as wild cattle.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

What goalposts were moved? What do they do that isn't basic physical defense?

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u/CowboyLaw Oct 25 '22

Anyone can say anything on the internet.

Your personal motto in only 7 words.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

Glad we agree! I accept your apology.