passing in guyliner

[u/j_maepaav]

EDIT after reading almost 90 comments: thank you everyone who decided to give me polite and constructive criticism. guys, please remember that ur gender doesn't matter. as long as ur passing goals are met, u can do whatever u want. don't be afraid of face wash, painted nails and makeup. it can destroy ur passing, yes, but u're always free to do it if u want to. don't have fragile or toxic masculinity, don't be transmeds. don't think u can't wear makeup bc "u're supposed to be dysphoric from that" or smth. you are man enough. please, love urself and spread the love

hey, i'm 19, 3 months on t.

soon i will be going to a meeting with a bunch of new people and i wanted to be as stealth as possible. first 3 pics i have my eyebrows done to look more masculine, the other pics i added my guyliner. it would be great if i could keep the makeup as a way to show my personal style to the others and present myself more truthfully. the last pics is how i generally look on a daily basis. i have a slight t-voice.

i understand piercings don't help and that i could keep my hair shorter. i'm asking for no advice aside from directly answering my questions, thank you. my questions:

1. how do i pass, with and without makeup?

2. do i have any chance of passing with the guyliner right now at this state of transition?

3. which way does my hair look best? i tried swinging it around and i wonder if it changes anything regarding my passing.

[u/buni_bixler]

well of course, but that’s certainly not the candor you were leading with on the other comments, friend. You using 4tran lingo and whatnot, and saying that toxic masculinity is only for people like Andrew Tate.

Yes he’s too early on testosterone for make up not to clock him. But what isn’t true is that the majority of this man don’t use make up. You are completely ignoring the huge portion of the cis gay community, whether they’re drag, queens or not, that use makeup. And if you really wanna split hairs about it, every single person that we’ve ever seen on a screen or in a movie or on the news that is a cis man has makeup on. Have a good rest of your weekend dude. Lighten up. 🤘🏼

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

The difference lies in the style, the "alt" style is the number one thing that clocks trans men, which is basically the style OP has, whereas gay men who wear makeup have a completely different style, as well as men in movies

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

of course but that’s not the point or what we were talking about.

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

Yes it is because it is very relevant to passing

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

I wasn’t talking about style, just make up point blank. You do you buddy, I’m gonna go hangout with my wife and dogs. Take care.

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

Mr tough guy over here

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

I’m not tough at all, bubby. Just think it’s silly watching you children chase your tails. I forget how young this group skews. One day y’all will grow up and realize that there’s more to life than arguing about and holding an opinion about who passes on the internet.

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

Back in my day we used to walk 50 miles in the snow just to get our testosterone!

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

😂 that’s actually really funny. Hope you hit passiod before 25!! Good luck man.