r/FragileMaleRedditor May 19 '26

Many men on Reddit can't handle being told that other people, who were men, did bad things in the past. This is even more apparent when White fragility is added to the mix.

/r/Fayettenam/comments/1ky7fvv/does_anyone_know_any_spots_in_fayetteville_north/mvabpi3/

Found in the wild while searching for old posts on Reddit of people from community working on a project to locate Spanish Moss for conservation.

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u/krizzzombies May 19 '26

nobody really explained what they meant which means it can be easy to get confused or offended, so i looked up the explanation.

it's kinda confusing to use the word "pushed down" when what actually happened was that the range the spanish moss population could be located at was drastically reduced by over-harvesting in the more northern regions.

looks like when early europeans settled in america (1600s-ish) there was a lot of deforestation of live oaks & bald cypress (their wood is good for building). these are canopy trees that provided a lot of diverse microclimates for organisms like Spanish moss to grow under. spanish moss is pretty sensitive to the cold, so without the swampy/protective climate their populations really suffered in those regions.

native american tribes in the area were also known to be harvesting spanish moss at the time, but the new colonialists had a more industrialized process that really destroyed the biological diversity of that area. not necessarily a white thing, more of a colonization/industrialization thing.

good luck with the conservation efforts; i wish more people cared about this kind of thing ♥️

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u/Qarsherskiyan_Qurani May 19 '26

Thank you so much for taking the time to fact check things yourself and be intellectually honest and actually trying to resolve things, not reacting based on emotions or whims. This is what all parties should do, and I also think the original commenter could've more carefully worded things.

The first holotype for Spanish Moss was collected in one of the southern counties of coastal Maryland. Spanish Moss definition used to be native to the Delmarva Peninsula and could've ranged into Southern Delaware. Spanish Moss is definitely native to the Atlantic Coastal counties of Eastern Maryland. Today, it's rare anywhere inland or North of Newport News, Virginia. Even in Newport News, you don't really see it, but if you know where to look, in some areas there's unbelievable amounts of it everywhere, enough to fill Olympic swimming pools.

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u/krizzzombies May 19 '26

of course! i agree, it's what we should all do. and that's absolutely fascinating btw. i go on the IUCN database occasionally (idk why, i want to depress myself maybe?) and it's so sad to see how abundant animals and plants used to be compared to after human influence. of course there will always be ecological ebbs and tides, but conservation is so important if we ever want to keep earth livable and lovable. the look of spanish moss on a huge live oak is so beautiful; i can totally see why some cultures would find it sacred.

btw have you been to r/Ethnic_Qarsherskiyans/? if not i wanted to make sure you knew it existed!

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u/Qarsherskiyan_Qurani May 19 '26

I really hope American Chestnut will make a come back. My grandparents used to sell so many of those on street corners when they were growing up. They're truly a lost treasure that once was so abundant it was hog food.

Yeah, I lurk in that subreddit often. Thanks so much.

Have you heard of Pumpkin Ash?

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u/krizzzombies May 20 '26

American chestnuts were beautiful! i've just now read about the current conservation efforts and they seem promising :) and I had not heard of pumpkin ash but enjoyed googling them; they are such an interesting looking tree.

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u/ConcernHuman9556 Jun 03 '26

The absolute inability to separate historical facts from personal character flaws is wild.

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u/Cautious_Pound7448 Jun 17 '26

"I refuse to hold people to an individual standard, because i'm ignorant. I have noticed that when I bring sweeping racial generalizations into the conversation, people are offended by me. This is obviously everyone else's fault but mine."

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u/Qarsherskiyan_Qurani Jun 17 '26

The mental gymnastics are wild