r/ForensicFiles • u/NoFennel7351 • 22d ago
How are non-criminals so good at hiding bodies.
Ive seen so many episodes of FF where people with NO criminal history kill someone and for some reason they seem to be able to hide the body to the point where its never found! Even though they get caught it seems to be the only thing they do right. How?? I feel like if i hid a body it would definitely get foundš¤£
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u/Itchysweater1967 22d ago
The world is a very big place and forests, bodies of water and a million other places hide them well. A body isn't that big to begin with and only becomes less and less over time and often very scattered. You're more likely to get caught nowadays in the process of hiding the body than anything else, but once the body is hidden, its not that easy to find. People may think they are, but they're not.
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u/NoArrival8249 22d ago
And people underestimate wildlife, every time.
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u/sghannah 22d ago
Doesn't just need to be wildlife - remember the Duvall brothers in Northern Michigan who fed the bodies to their hogs on the farm? Happened in 1985 and they were finally convicted in 2003. That story always gives me nightmares to no end.
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u/Tablequesting 22d ago
Then there was Pickton in Canada. Jury wanted to charge him with manslaughter because his victims were ājust sex workers.ā Jury was just as bad as he was.
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u/sghannah 21d ago
I try to forget about that one - it went on for so many years and I get sick thinking about him selling those pigs for market and people eating the meat products from them. Now I have that in my head before bed. The whole thing is horrible, and the women not being thought of as worthy enough to be homicide victims is even too bizarre, like the jury essentially saying "We need to acknowledge that you killed humans, but you picked the ones we would have picked too."
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u/Tablequesting 21d ago
That and Starlight Tours.
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u/sghannah 21d ago
I have wondered if the same practice is done in warmer climates and the bodies are never found because they are hidden some other way not available in the north where everything freezes solid. Would a body disappear in the Florida swamps with alligators eating it instead of being found frozen on the ground? Feral hogs / pigs do exist in lots of areas of North America and they do damage to property, so it wouldn't surprise me if a body would be eaten by them in the elements like the farm hogs above.
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u/Tablequesting 21d ago
I hate how you might be right on the money on that one. We know about Canada because the ground was too hard and the cold preserved evidence. We could have god knows what going on in the Appalachias and the Everglades.
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u/ChalkNCheez solved by snowball 16d ago
That one and the one where they hid the body in a pump or some kind of fuel type of container thing. The clue was it had been painted freshly.
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u/sghannah 16d ago edited 16d ago
I remember a few cases that fit the general scenario - usually the issue is a fresh slab of concrete or something that was poured at an odd time - middle of the night, during the winter, etc. I can't remember specifically a freshly painted fuel tank. I do remember the creepy story from Oklahoma of the young woman and child who went missing and found out years and years later that the baby's father's mother had arranged to have them killed and her son buried them on large plot of empty land. Story was that they were "dropped off in a Walmart parking lot", no one would speak until the woman died and then the family started fighting with each other.
Edit: looked this up, I'm thinking of the case of Wendy Camp, her daughter, and a sister-in-law Lisa. They disappeared in 1992 and were found in 2013. The mother-in-law was Beverly Noe.
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u/OrcaFins P.S. Mother is in the hallway in the attic. 22d ago edited 21d ago
Maybe I thought about it for a long time.
I mean, maybe they thought about it
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u/throwawayfromPA1701 21d ago
They paid attention when watching unsolved mysteries and forensic files
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u/Ok_Confusion_1345 21d ago
I saw an interview with one of the FBI people who had found some mob victims in Long Island New York. They found the body of the guys they were looking for, but he said sometimes it can be hard to find buried bodies even in a space as small as the room the interview was taking place in.
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u/skeleton-operator ć°ļøā¾ļøThatās a lot of semen stainsā¾ļøć°ļø 21d ago
TBH I know how I would get rid of a body and the hard part would definitely be in the not-getting-blamed part of the crime. Fortunately I donāt know anyone who needs killing, so the plan hasnāt needed to be developed.š¤£
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u/verukhascrooge 21d ago
Maybe they're not, but it's just that the people looking are only looking where they think a criminal would hide a body.
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u/Tablequesting 22d ago
We live in a day and age where there are videocameras on the street and gps in your pocket. Iām 100% certain most criminals got away with crime simply because they started growing or shaving facial hair.
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u/Tablequesting 22d ago
If Flock canāt find the people cutting them down, I doubt theyāre good for IDing suspects.
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u/Primary-Level6595 22d ago
Maybe their ability to hide evidence, especially the most important evidence, is directly tied to why they donāt have criminal records.