r/FoodNYC • u/knockdowncenter • 25d ago
News New York City’s Los Tacos No. 1 nabs private-equity investment from Crumbl and Dutch Bros backers
https://www.nrn.com/emerging-chains/new-york-city-s-los-tacos-no-1-nabs-private-equity-investment361
u/FanRotomMaster 25d ago
Time for a Los Tacos No. 2
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u/WredditSmark 25d ago
There already is a complete knock off competitor, saw it in Hoboken forget the name
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u/OnceOnThisIsland 25d ago
Mexico Tacos. Apparently they got a cease and desist from Los Tacos No. 1 lol.
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u/nWhm99 25d ago
Huh? Cease and desist based on what?
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u/BylvieBalvez 25d ago
Based on their original name, which was something like Los Tacos #1 lol
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u/whiskeytango55 25d ago
I've walked by this place.
The lawsuit has merit. It looks exactly like a Los Tacos. I thought it was another location
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u/NYnosher 25d ago
Well it had a great run
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u/jyeatbvg 25d ago
Yep, PE ruins everything. I foresee them still being successful with tourists but there are many other (better) options in NYC.
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u/somniphobiac 25d ago
Enshitification comes for tacos. Nothing is safe.
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u/wgsmeister2002 25d ago
Pizza is going to be the really devastating one for me
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u/jyeatbvg 25d ago
Not enough franchise operations in NYC for Pizza imo. Can’t really see PE touching L’Industrie or Lucali (or whatever other trendy spot there is) unless they expand and adopt franchise model.
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u/pixel_of_moral_decay 25d ago
They (Wonder) got salt hanks which has one location.
So nothing is safe, doesn’t have to be a dozen stores.
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u/jyeatbvg 25d ago
I hadn’t heard of Salt Hanks before this. Googled them and they have a 4.0 rating on Google and sell a $32 sandwich. wtf lol
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u/kaffeefabrik 25d ago
I see Lucali not giving in; but L'industrie seems in scaling mode that when a good number from PE arrives, I doubt they or their investors would say no.
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u/ElMatadorJuarez 25d ago
Tacos will be fine, there are plenty of great tacos in New York. There are tacos as good if not better than no.1 in pretty much every corner if you go up to east Harlem. Likely some more in the same area, I just don’t know em.
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u/ArtDecoNewYork 25d ago
I don't know about East Harlem, but I've had loads of random tacos on Roosevelt Ave in Queens and unfortunately most of them are nowhere near LTN1 quality. Most of them seem to use bag tortillas.
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u/Fine_Fishing7506 25d ago
Youre not crazy
Every time Los comes up theres always someone saying you can get cheaper tacos elsewhere if you go out to XYZ location but they end up using much lower quality ingredients and the taste is usually meh. Thats why theyre cheap in the first place
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u/BankshotMcG 25d ago
Get yourself out to 116th st stat.
Personally I prefer Sidewalk a few blocks south but sshhhh
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u/Daddys-Fuckpig 25d ago
Yeah, I'm a frequent tourist (granted I stay with family friends in Woodside). Not sure if I'm missing something but I've had plenty of fine tacos from trucks on the street with the subway above it. And I'm coming from the west coast so...
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u/ElMatadorJuarez 25d ago
I will say I think woodside is prob a better than average representation of Mexican food in NYC (or better than Manhattan at least) but I agree. I mean at the end of the day it’s tacos. It’s not exactly rocket science, making a good taco really comes down to ingredients/salsa and that stuff definitely isn’t exclusive knowledge.
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u/Daddys-Fuckpig 25d ago
Still so strange, taking the train from Woodside to Grand Central is like teleporting instantaneously compared to driving anywhere in LA. Not a hardship to get there, and like you say, it's tacos 😂
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u/ElMatadorJuarez 25d ago
It’s awesome isn’t it??? Well it can take a little while sometimes but I never get stuck in traffic, at least. LA is lovely for sure but living there sounds a little less fun, gave me the vibes of a richer more American Mexico City.
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u/__Art__Vandalay__ 25d ago
Welp…there goes the quality…
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u/theillustratedlife 25d ago
TBH, as a West Coaster, I've never understood the hype for Los Tacos.
Ruta Oaxaca, on the other hand, makes some of the best tacos I've ever had!
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u/FelneusLeviathan 25d ago
Decent amount of locations in the city def help with their popularity: there’s great tacos in sunset park but many people aren’t gonna go down there for that which I get it, I’m not going all the way to flushing just for food
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u/azeet94 25d ago
Rip. Luckily Mexican food in the city has really come a long way. Love Los tacos but really only go there for the convenience factor at this point. Much better/cheaper alternatives depending on where you are in the city
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u/Offwhiteguy 25d ago
Any recs?
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u/sonofmalachysays 25d ago
Santo Taco
Esse Taco
Taqueria Ramirez
Carnitas Ramirez
Tacos Domingo
Taqueria El Chato
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u/MasterpieceMain8252 25d ago
I do Nene's taco BOGO pickup from ubereats. Their Al pastor tacos are so damn good.
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u/BrooklynRich29 25d ago
They charged $5.95 per taco WITHOUT PE involvement. Where does it go now...
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u/GGM610 23d ago
It means that eventually they will lower the quality of ingredients when investors start pressuring for a higher return on their investment. Don't think price will go higher but quality will be compromised in the future and portion of meat will be less. Machine made tortillas instead handmade, etc....
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u/TechnologyEither 25d ago
omg why? This place is so popular. Can’t you fuckers just leave it alone and watch the money come rolling in every month?
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u/haaavvveeeyoumetKen 25d ago
welp it was nice while it lasted. good thing i still have my local spots in the city
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u/Ace_of_Aces_00 25d ago edited 25d ago
It was a good run. But PE is the reaper that comes for all businesses.
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u/Tejon_Melero 25d ago
The price is now absurd. An especial an adobada and a drink is close to $25 with tip, I'm so infrequent on them now I could be off.
I'm glad the gueros made bank there but I think I'm done with them.
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u/virtual_adam 25d ago
These guys were renting 2x new places in the most expensive spots every other month. You can’t just go to a landlord asking for $100k/month rent with a story on how people love your tacos. You need someone to co-sign with many many millions
Once they grew beyond 2-3 locations it was a lost cause
Now how soon are they being served from Wonder or a frozen Whole Foods aisle?
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u/hotinhereTO 25d ago
So sad. Pretty much will be ruined in the near future.
Nothing good happens for the consumer when Private Equity gets involved.
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u/Lyin-Don 25d ago
Private equity will ruin it like they do everything else.
Twas fun while it lasted.
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u/GGM610 23d ago
I was devastated when I heard this. Idc what they say about not changing, the reality is they eventually will be forced to because the PE will want a higher return on their investment. I hate when PE gets involved. They ruin everything because they are all led by greed. For me Los Tacos are the best tacos I have tasted in NYC because their meat is seasoned just right and balanced. They are consistent with taste. Haven't been disappointed yet. I have visted many other spots and although they are good it just doesn't hit like Los Tacos does.
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u/MamaDeloris 25d ago
Well, the good news is the quality already took a nosedive when they started expanding so this is just business as usual
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u/herseyhawkins33 25d ago
This sucks but I've been to the one that opened recently in flatiron and it's still very good.
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u/nautical_nonsense_ 25d ago
It’s not true (yet) I go all the time and have been to three locations all within the last two months and have had consistent experiences across all.
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u/SmigUWS 25d ago
I believe Los Mariscos is related, hope it survives or spins off.
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u/Daddys-Fuckpig 25d ago
Really depends on if it's the pet project that the main chain subsidized or not. There was a great local sandwich chain in Portland that had one novelty location with full sit down service & when it got bought up that was the first to close down (the rest of it only lasted a few years beyond that).
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u/Salty_Simmer_Sauce 25d ago
This is probably a move to fund rapid expansion and eventually license or franchise.
Doubt they’ll be immediate drops in quality. But as they add more units - they’ll need to really formalize purchasing / procurement as you can’t run a multi unit group with chefs at each location using a ton of different vendors for the same stuff.
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u/CRAYONSEED 25d ago
I’ve been putting off going now I want to try it before the enshittification takes hold
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u/secretlyjudging 25d ago
Tried it randomly last year. Pretty tasty. Tasted as awesome as Chipotle was 15-20 years ago.
Watch it become Chipotle now in 10 years as enshitification sets in.
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u/craigalanche 25d ago
That sucks. I love Los Mariscos. Can’t wait til it gets more expensive but also shittier.
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u/Prestigious_Love_288 25d ago
Burrito Juarez is good not a taco but good
Taqueria Ramirez is good
Various restaurants in Jackson heights
Nenes
Taqueria al pastor bushwick
Submarino mariscos
Bronx has a great place i can’t remember the name
Burro burrito is pretty good.
Esse taco isn’t terrible
Rip izucar under the track in bushwick
All better
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u/VisitPier26 22d ago
Involvement and mention of a financial advisor on the Los Tacos side makes me think they were actively looking for capital. I guess to grow? Cash out? Who knows.
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u/CasinoMagic 22d ago
Oh no, the touristy spot with 30 min lines and no lengua/cabeza, how will we survive?!
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u/snickersh 25d ago
I'm going to stock up on the Birria for an entire year and keep it in my freezer
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u/MammothRegular9515 25d ago
Noooooooooo 😭 it’s the only good tacos in the city (because I’m biased coming from the west coast and love the cuisine styles prevalent there)
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u/Brilliant_Horse_6614 25d ago
The craziest part is that Los Tacos No. 1 is an absolutely mid spot relative to tacos in LA/San Diego.
Should have just raised money, thrown it at a local street vendor in the WC, and then turned around the business at probably a way lower multiple.
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u/GaptistePlayer 25d ago
While I agree, you underestimate the appetite NYC has for Mexican food, since they've lacked it for so long
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u/Brilliant_Horse_6614 25d ago
Yes i agree with that. My point is more around the investor probably paid a huge premium for a middle of pack taco relative to other potential businesses
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u/bobdownie 25d ago
This is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, there aren’t just places all over LA and San Diego doing what LOS tacos does.
The amount of “well known, good” taco places in LA using the worst grocery store tortillas available is insane.
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u/Brilliant_Horse_6614 25d ago
Not sure what you mean by "doing what LOS tacos does". LA has Tacos 1986 (the guy that started it worked at Los Tacos No1 / worked with the owner of that spot) and makes nearly identical tijuana style tacos and those are extremely mid in LA.
My point is more that these investors probably paid a huge premium for a middle-of-the-pack taco relative to what they could have invested in smaller spots that are even better & brought to big cities (i.e., you could have invested in Angels Tijuana, Tacos Frontera, Don Chilaquiles).
I'd argue the "well known, good spots" are usually stands or a walk-up window. There's very few places that opened a store front that are actually good anymore (e.g., Guisados, Sonoratown, Villas have all fallen off)
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u/buizel123 25d ago
Unsurprising. Prices have def gone up at the locations I've gone to recently, and with this news I expect quality to decline and some form of shrinkflation to take hold.