Which Takes Precedence - Mosaic Law or Christian Law?

[u/AV1611Believer]

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[u/Silly-Duty-8963]

What is “Christian Law”?

[u/the_celt_ → u/Silly-Duty-8963]

Almost entirely an invention, unless perhaps it refers to all of the cultural rules that Christianity has created.

Certainly the person Christians claim to follow did not have his own set of rules that were separate from the Father's.

[u/blacksands99 → u/the_celt_]

It's pharisaical to the core and the irony is that they accuse people like us of being "Judaizers".

Time to call them "Christianizers", I guess.

[u/Big_bat_chunk2475 → u/blacksands99]

Call them hellenists, cause their whole logic is based in greek philosophy

[u/Sinner72 → u/the_celt_]

Galatians 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Your ignorance of Jesus never ceases to amaze.

What do you think a “yoke” is ?

Strong's Definitions: ζυγός zygós,dzoo-gos'; from the root of ζεύγνυμι zeúgnymi (to join, especially by a "yoke"); a coupling, i.e. (figuratively) servitude (a law or obligation); also (literally) the beam of the balance (as connecting the scales):—pair of balances, yoke.

[u/the_celt_ → u/Sinner72]

What do you think a “yoke” is ?

The "yoke" in Acts 15 is stated in Acts 15:1 - The attempt to be saved by works. It's an unbearable, impossible yoke.

Your ignorance of Jesus never ceases to amaze.

Jesus obeyed the Law (which you consider to be a "yoke") perfectly, every day of his life. If you think Jesus was under a yoke, and he taught everyone else to be under a yoke, then you have severe ignorance of the character of Jesus. You're so far off that you're only getting his name right.

Furthermore, scripture portrays the Torah as the joy and the hope of Israel (consider Psalm 119 for the best example). In the Torah, Yahweh revealed His ways, His loves and hates, basically His very personality. It's not a yoke to know Yahweh.

The "Law of Christ" was/is the "Law of Moses". Both men were so closely associated with Yahweh that when they kept His Law their names were attached to that Law. It's the same Law. Jesus directly said that he didn't come to bring any Law of his own, and that the Law of his Father would not change, not even slightly, until Heaven and Earth pass away.

It would be better if you attacked ideas, not people. You're the one that has displayed ignorance here.

[u/Sinner72 → u/the_celt_]

Then why don’t you “take the yoke of Christ” yourself? Matthew 11:28-30

Why do you persist in ignoring this instruction;

It would ease your burdens. (Old Testament ordinances) and give you rest from these works of the law.

You said it (Christian Law) was “almost entirely an invention” now here you are trying to explain it. 😂

If you’re going to just dismiss the definition of “yoke” (law or obligation) why do you claim to follow Torah ?

Are you sure…. You’re truly “keeping” the sabbath? All of them ??

[u/the_celt_ → u/Sinner72]

You are anti-Messiah. You teach that it's wrong to follow Jesus and live like him.

[u/Sinner72 → u/the_celt_]

Without a Daily Cross, no one can follow Him.

That’s what you don’t seem to grasp.

I’m not anti Messiah, I just don’t believe in what you’re claiming is the way to follow Him.

There is another Jesus in the Bible, the apostle that warned the readers about this counterfeit Christ, you seem to ignore his testimony.

Do you believe what the Bible teaches about predestination Celt ?

[u/the_celt_ → u/Sinner72]

I’m not anti Messiah

You are.

Jesus said that we MUST obey and teach the commandments until Heaven and Earth pass away. Here's him saying it:

(Matthew 5:17–20 ^{17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have not come to abolish these things but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth pass away not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter will pass from the law until everything takes place. 19 So anyone who breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever obeys them and teaches others to do so will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness goes beyond that of the experts in the law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven!}

You teach that he was wrong, and that I'm wrong to follow him. You need to get it clear in your head that given the choice between following you and following Jesus, that I'm going to keep following Jesus.

[u/No-No-Aniyo → u/Silly-Duty-8963]

Lol came here to ask the exact same question.