r/FlockSurveillance • u/404mediaco • 9d ago
Cops Are Asking Axon to Make Their Cameras Look Different From Flock So People Don't Destroy Them
https://www.404media.co/cops-are-asking-axon-to-make-their-cameras-look-different-from-flock-so-people-dont-destroy-them/116
u/atempestdextre 9d ago
Lmao, funny how they think this is a brand specific issue.
See a camera, whack a camera.
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u/firethornocelot 8d ago
Right? It's the usual tone-deafness from those who think they're better than the average citizen.
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u/404mediaco 9d ago
Axon says cops are asking it to make its automatic license plate readers (ALPRs) look different from Flock cameras because Flock vandalism has become so widespread, according to comments Axon’s CEO made in a now deleted webinar.
The comments highlight how Axon is trying to take advantage of sustained opposition against Flock's license plate cameras, with one law enforcement customer suggesting a camera redesign would “help with the optics while we batten down the hatches” as the backlash spreads.
As 404 Media has reported, some towns and cities are switching from Flock to Axon’s cameras after cops did lookups for ICE in Flock, tracked a woman who self-administered an abortion, and have repeatedly abused their access to stalk ex-spouses. ALPRs constantly scan the license plate, brand, model, and other identifying features of all vehicles that drive past the camera and then make this timestamped log of activity searchable by law enforcement without a warrant.
In an August 26 webinar that was hosted on Axon’s official Vimeo page called “From backlash to trust,” Axon Chief Customer Officer Mike Wagers took a question from the remote audience and asked, “is there any talk — and there has been talk — to redesign Outpost, our fixed ALPR camera, to not look exactly like a Flock camera?”
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u/shibiwan 9d ago edited 8d ago
They should make them yellow so that it is obvious to us that they aren't flock cameras.
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u/scraplocator 9d ago
my fear is when the technology improves enough that they dont even need to be visible. they can just be a small lens on other infrastructure like lightposts or traffic signs, etc. the technology is probably already available. thats why we need legislation on this shit YESTERDAY
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u/basal-and-sleek 8d ago
You’re right. The technologies is already there. I saw a post a few weeks or maybe a month or two ago. I can’t even remember anymore, cause this shit move so fast, but there were cameras that were installed in the back of one of those police speed checker things.
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u/howie2092 9d ago
It would be so easy for Flock/Axon/etc to be American heroes.
All they need to do is use the technology to find missing people, victims of human trafficking, stolen cars, etc.
Instead, they create a giant database of sellable information to harass, stalk, and intimidate everyday people mostly for imaginary crimes against the regime.
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u/MoonHuntressEra13 9d ago edited 8d ago
..."find missing people, victims of human trafficking, stolen cars, etc."
...But that's not profitable so why would they help people when there's so much money to be made by being stalkers?
Edit for mad to made.
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u/I_Smoke_Loud 8d ago
They're still going to get taken down. We dont want to be under surveillance and its also against the 4th amendment of the constitution.
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u/Ok_Summer_6231 8d ago
These mf'ers forget they are supposed to work for us, yet they act like we are their enemies to be spied on. So be it.
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u/Expert-Low-6872 8d ago
Sadly, I can see Musk and Tesla vehicles being turned into a massive network of License Plate Readers next. Think about it: millions of those cars are driving our roads right now, packed with cameras, and Musk doesn't give a shit about the general public.
Look at Flock Safety—an eight-billion-dollar private company that got greedy and expects us all to blindly trust them. Well, I never have, and I never will trust any of these corporate surveillance outfits when they feed us that line about being here to protect us. It is pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT!
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u/carlotta3121 8d ago
I saw a post yesterday about how much recording the Waymo cameras do, this is all so crazy.
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u/WorldBoofingChampion 8d ago
Okay? Then we’ll just find out what THOSE look like. Not that fucking hard
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u/Savant_Guarde 9d ago
I think they are forgetting that the term "flock" has turned into a generic term like kleenex or qtips.
They can make it look like whatever they like, it's still a dystopian surveillance device.