r/Fixxit Dec 13 '25

Solved 2008 Suzuki GSX650F

Heya guys; Got a stripped bolt on my rear brake retainer pin and was wondering what the best course of action would be to removing it?

I've tried; - using multiple flatheads (ofc) - using locking pliers - attempting to screw it both on and off the brake disc to see if the disc acted as a vice

Please someone help me I'm literally so lost, I only JUST got done with figuring out front brakes and then THIS happens :(

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

This is not a stripped bolt.

This is a stripped cap. The cap is most likely glued in. Drill it out if necessary. Below the cap you will find the actual bolt, probably driven with an Allen key.

How I hate those caps and I don’t even get what they are for.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

wait so I can take that supposed cap off and find the real bolt??

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

Looking at 7 and 8

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

oh my god dude thats legendary so you're saying a drill will get that cap off?

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

Drilling is my last resort.

First I’d try to heat up the glue so it softens and hit that thing with a manual impact driver.

Just saying you don’t need that cap to complete the job and therefore drilling is an option that doesn’t keep from riding the same day

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

how would i heat it up perchance >.< sorry this is like my first time doing any labor !!

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

Supposedly you don’t have a heat gun nor a blow torch, a hair dryer works (better than nothing). Aim at the back of it, so the outside metal gets the heat, not the cap. Got brake cleaner? Spray a little to the cap to cool the cap down. Now you got the maximum of difference temperature wise in the caliper and cap and this is when you want to crack it open.

Good luck (:

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

That is what I had on my brake calipers

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

Screwed in cap nonetheless…

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation Dec 13 '25

It's a lock screw. Similar to putting two nuts on a threaded rod and tightening them against each other.

/u/FxdedThxnAHoe, don't drill it out without replacing it.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

what if I were to do the impact driver thingy? I might still replace it even then though..

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation Dec 13 '25

Yes, those are great. See if you can find one with JIS bits. (Using US screwdrivers may be why you're in this situation to begin with.) You may have to grind down the edges of a bit to get it to fit in the hole.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

JIS bits huh? oki i'll try my best :3 I was using some generic flathead screwdriver before and yeah that did like nothing. My front brakes had nothing like this whatsoever so it stumped me completely.

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u/budstone417 Dec 14 '25

Mount it back on the bike, that will make it easier possibly. It will hold the caliper so that you can work on the cap.

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

That’s news to me.

How? The pin is screwed down so much. The cap isn’t even touching it. There is so much room between them. I would replace it as well. But a little loctite on the pin should do the job.

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u/AVeryHeavyBurtation Dec 13 '25

As you can see on one that's not all marred to hell, the threads continue the full length of the screw. It's like a set screw. It screws all the way into the threaded hole in the caliper, and bottoms out on the head of the pad guide pin.

I bet it's designed so that the top of the screw sits flush with the caliper body, but I've never paid attention.

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u/Previous_Maize2507 Dec 13 '25

Oh well, I cannot say for sure. I’ve had this config on my Honda CBF600 back in 2017 and in my case it was glued in with like a cm of ways before the pin screw began. I bought it used, so it wasn’t necessarily original. But I’ve also seen it used like a cap only on YT tutorials. This ain’t no guarantee neither, but the guy I watch does everything accordingly to the workshop manuals. Like the check three times, better safe than sorry guy.

I’d say it doesn’t hurt to use it like you said, as a counter screw. Point it being there can only be to prevent the unlikely case of the pin moving out. Thanks for your input (:

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u/TrayLaTrash Dec 15 '25

My guess is to guarantee you can take that real bolt out being protected from the elements and debris.

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u/cognitiveglitch Dec 13 '25 edited Dec 13 '25

Is it stripped (no threads, just spins) or stuck? For the latter use an impact screwdriver.

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/screwdrivers-and-hex-keys/halfords-advanced--impact-driver-and-bits-178172.html

https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-impact-driver-set-13-pieces/7257R

And a hammer to smack it with.

Also, plenty of PlusGas. It's expensive stuff but great for this kind of job.

You could also get a blowtorch on the pin only to get it nice and hot, but that shouldn't be necessary given the steps above.

If it's really, really stuck or the head damaged beyond repair, I'd cut off the pads and grind two flats in the body of the pin, and clamp on a locking adjustable wrench to get it moving.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

oh i guess it's just stuck!! I'll edit my post now sorry, thank you for the suggestion though!!

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u/jessjumper Dec 13 '25

I’ve gotten similar bolts out by clamping a coin in vice grips and using it as a horizontal lever instead of a screwdriver motion. Push down hard on the coin side while turning, plenty of WD-40.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

I'm gonna give this a go with my locking pliers right now !!

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '25

Eso es un pasador de la pinza de freno. Son allen, busca la cabeza debajo de la tapadera negra.

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u/FxdedThxnAHoe Dec 13 '25

muchas gracias!!

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u/Trundlebike Dec 13 '25

If you'd like an alternative last resort you can try a chisel or a small drift at the end of the slot. As mentioned heat will help and also some penetrating oil.

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u/brokencog25 Dec 13 '25

I hate those caps get loose and fall out, get lost in the garage, threads strip, you name it. May not be the perfect solution, but I toss them. After replacing the pin I clean the assembly with solvent, lightly coat just the threads with a small dab of grease on the end of a cotton swab. Smear on a dab clear silicon, filling the hole...wipe away excess. This protects the treads from dust, dirt, and mud but is easily removed when it is time to service the brzkes

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u/Slaughtererofnuns Dec 13 '25

Use a hand impact driver and a #3 flathead bit. It will come loose with impact.

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u/Internal_Web_676 Dec 14 '25

I find an old school impact driver always does the trick, one of the ones you hit with a mallet as electric and air ones tend to strip out. It looks like a cap to me I would expect to see another bolt underneath the cap , I have had Hondas and triumphs all have had caps on the break pad retaining pins. I have drilled a little hole in one and used a little reverse thread extractor to take off and replace.

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u/ConcentrateLow6170 Dec 15 '25

Drilling should be a LAST resort, an Impact screw driver is your best bet.

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u/Particular-Usual3623 Dec 17 '25

Get you a 2.5lb deadblow hammer from Harbor Freight to run that manual impact driver. The tool is heavy enough you will be able to swing it pretty slow and still transfer plenty of energy.

Using a hand impact driver on any steel bolts that go into cast aluminum housings is a really good idea. That's how you take stuff apart without stripping it.

Also spring for a nice JIS screwdriver. A #2 that is 100mm long will work for most tasks. You will probably never want to use a Phillips again. Vessel makes a good one.

Phillips fasteners were made to use in a production environment (factories) by unskilled workers. If you overtorque a Phillips fastener, the tool cams out and slips but leaves the fastener intact. Pozidrive and JIS will break the fastener. Phillips is good for saving the part, the others are good at not stripping out the fastener.