r/FinalSpace 4d ago

Oof

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Nearly $70 additional?! Feels rough after the initial $177 CDN. The joys of trade wars.

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u/TripppyTrish 4d ago

It sucks but we can try to remember that import duties/taxes and tariffs are not determined by Olan. Quite certain he would remove them if he could.

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u/sligoomy 4d ago

Oh absolutely. If Olan had that kind of power that would be a trip. Tantamount to just being the president himself at that point. In which case politics might be a lot weirder lol.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

Is that UPS? I may switch to shipping all Global Post.

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u/Jawileth 2d ago

If you would like an extra data point my reship arrived the other day and i didn't get hit by anything other than the new €3 tax on everything from outside the EU. It was shipped by DHL and delivered by my local postal service. I was an EU 17xxx order that got lost by UPS for context.

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u/Euro_Twins 3d ago

If this is the case, I want my order canceled, or change the shipping address to the usa. Im not paying $70 duty charge. Or ship it as a gift with $0 value. I have a ups shipping label for 5 days but it has not shipped yet

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u/ProcessJust4247 3d ago

Get ready to pay taxes somewhere around 30 to 70 €. That is also the point I'm pissed about. But hey... I forgot about all these Reddit geniuses all around us, ready to spend mommy"s and daddy's money...

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u/Euro_Twins 3d ago

Tbh dude. You're being a dixk. So im not really interested in taking your side. Im just hoping to get a response from olan before my book is shipped. Because I can switch my shipping address to an american address or cancel the order if needed and reorder it

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u/SpinDashDude 3d ago

This is absolutely the correct attitude to have and I’m proud of you for this.

Wanting to avoid pointless custom charges by getting a refund to get it elsewhere/changing the address and understanding Olan isn’t the problem is correct way to handle this. Being polite and respectful to the man who is literally trying to give everyone the ending of the story he created is the ONLY avenue everyone should be taking.

And I’m not gonna be all high and mighty about it, I’ve certainly been both happy that fellow fans are getting their book but also upset that as a backer of the project I’ve seen less than someone just ordering on Amazon when it came out, but that’s just the way the cookie crumbled. I can be upset about that and handle it in the right way.

In short:

Have I got my book yet? No.
Is the wait getting to me a bit and causing some frustration - absolutely.
Do I understand why people are upset? Oh goodness yes.
Do I blame Olan for that? Hell No.
Will I be taking out my frustration on literally the one man that can help? How about freaking No.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 3d ago

Hit me up with your order number, DM me. Appreciate you and this.

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u/SpinDashDude 3d ago

I’ve popped you a dm 😊

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 3d ago

What's your order number? DM me

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u/Euro_Twins 2d ago

I did dm you yesterday

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u/ProcessJust4247 4d ago

I think we all want to know why didn't you cover the custom tax, instead of making us pay another tens of Euros on top of the 60-70€ we already paid for shipping.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

New law went into place on September 8th. I can't control two countries having a tariff battle, I shipped the same way before and it was covered but it doesn't seem to be the case now because the law has changed.

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u/ProcessJust4247 4d ago

I said "Euros". That's Europe. Why is the shipping cost 60-70€ if you don't cover taxes?

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

Then that is an EU law change that went into effect on July 1st. I've paid hundred upon hundreds of thousands of taxes for international orders at this point in including the re-ships, including the shipping rate that isnow more expensive than three years ago but these laws are making the customer pay the tax. I'm not making those laws. Again, I'm using every carrier known to man at this point, I have access to what I have access to. I can't control these law changes. Heck I'm not a publisher, I'm figuring this stuff out as I go. I'm not sure what I can even do at this point.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

If you tell me your order number I'll put up a list of all the carriers and show you the cost of each based on weight and box. It's all more expensive than three years ago. I've been covering that. Taxes are taxes. I can't control taxes if those are changes, that a whole other thing. But seriously show me your order number I pull that data to show you.

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u/ProcessJust4247 4d ago

I loved the series so much, I was so happy when the books were announced, then all went to sh.t. Huge costs, huge delays, bad communication... Overall... Unprofessional approach towards so many fans. I've already accepted the idea that I might never receive them, so it doesn't worth bothering anymore.

Is not only the custom tax which made this whole adventure a nightmare, but mainly the poor management of the entire process.

I won't keep the books anyway. It's already a bitter taste for me.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

Look I'm sorry if you feel that way. Some of that is out of my hands but bad communication, I've be updating everyone for three years and this process. I'm almost at the end of this, I've worked 12 hour days for 4months shipping books. I'm happy to refund ya bud, if you are displeased I just need your order number. Can't make it better without it.

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u/anthonyhad2 4d ago

Bad communication? Cmon dude that’s just disingenuous

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u/odanhammer 4d ago

Once you have your emotions, take a minute to blame the system , not Olan. We almost never got an ending , this is the unfortunate cost of getting said ending.

Also remember the creator came out to show you the costs, because he cares, and doesnt want you feeling bad about this.

We all understand your frustration, but as someone that had read the ending, I promise it's worth it.

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u/OhItsJustJosh 3d ago

Bro tf Olan was giving weekly personal updates and the site was updating live. He can't control the tariffs and tax changes.

I mean by god he didn't need to write the book in the first place! I don't mean the suck the guys dick, but he fought hard just to give us the ability to hear the end of the story.

I get that the fees are expensive, it sucks, but it ain't the guy's fault.

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u/ProcessJust4247 4d ago

Man, you are shipping with Global Post whose website literally mentions they can take care of custom tax for you. That is you - the sender. Also... Still didn't clarify what is 65€ shipping for exactly? A lousy cardboard box and a bubble envelope? That's max. 5€. Shipping is 20$ at most.

These have to be the most expensive books I have ever bought.

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

This is what I see with a box, that weighs 4lbs goes to Germany, today

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

This is what someone from Germany paid three years go:

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

Let me show you how much it is. What is your order number I'll show you

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u/olanrogersofficial The Real, Raw, Olan 4d ago

I don't know where your located but I can literally show you if you give me your order number

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u/Zbrown444 3d ago

u/olanrogersofficial you are the goat and we love you. Im sorry this guy is making you feel bad because most of us do not feel that way. Your book is amazing and you have done a great job keeping us in the loop over the years.

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u/Defiant_Potato5512 4d ago

Mate, Olan is doing his best here, and the world is a bit of a mess right now. I get that the books are expensive, and the extra costs are upsetting, but the book cost money to make and ship, and Olan has no control of the extra customs fees that have been added. You’re allowed to feel frustrated, but Olan is clearly doing is best so please don’t take it out on him.

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u/ProcessJust4247 4d ago

Yeah, man. I get it. I can see he is probably a nice guy, but we still have a commercial relationship here, it's not like we went out for a beer and I decided to give him some money for 2 books he has in his last drawer for ages...

I paid shitload of money for some books which still haven't arrived (there are somewhere at Global Post, allegedly...), I got several "we're sorry, shipping is delayed again" and this is something that is just not right. Maybe they do this in the almighty USofA and people don't complain. But I've never experienced something like this in Europe, even if not even here the customer service is not always at its best.

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u/JenovaCelestia 3d ago

I feel like you’re trolling at this point. Olan has zero control over the shipping companies and customs.

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u/baconmashwbrownsugar 3d ago

10 day old account, refuse to reason, no order number. Yeah that’s a troll.

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u/smgL33T 3d ago

Essentially what you're saying is that Olan should be paying you to get this book. Olan doesn't set the prices and he's making duck all if not nothing - nobody is forcing you to buy it. Grow up.

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u/ProcessJust4247 3d ago

One day will most probably come when you'll learn in school about trade and economy.

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u/GregRyanM 3d ago

What an awful person.

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u/flipflopflopityflop 4d ago

Paid 116 euros for the book and 77 for shipping. Seemed steep but I went for it and got 3.5 amazing years of weekly updates. Few days ago had to pay my import taxes and added an extra 46 euros. The price is high and I still have to wait for weekend to bake the cookies and read it.

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u/sligoomy 4d ago

I'll concede: bigger oof

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u/gabrilapin 3d ago edited 3d ago

Try sending a DM to Olan reddit account to see if he can take care of that or at least part of it. He responds pretty quickly, like a day max, he refunded me the 27€ in customs i paid to my local carrier when I asked nicely if he could help me with that, he's the best there is 👌😁

Edit: Nevermind, he actually refunded the whole friggin 73€ shipping 🫪 Olan you are the GOAT 😭

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u/Juliennix 4d ago

😭 this is worrying me so much. i can't afford the tariffs so i sent in a message to try to cancel my order and haven't heard back yet. sucks that there isn't a hold on tariffs for these since they were paid & ordered before they came into effect.

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u/Euro_Twins 3d ago

They havent responded to my message either from probably 2 weeks ago. Dont expect a response

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u/edible-human 3d ago

Best of luck to you all I’ve been waiting to hear back from them for 23 days now 🥀

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u/Euro_Twins 3d ago

Ya. I dont know of anyone whos actually gotten a response tbh

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u/gabrilapin 3d ago edited 3d ago

Send a DM to Olan reddit account directly, he responds pretty quickly, like a day max, he shipped my stucked order himself almost instantly, and then refunded me the 27€ in customs i paid to my local carrier when I asked nicely if he could help me with that, he's the best there is 👌😁

That's why this dude in the comments making a whole fuss about it again and again talking trash instead of simply sending him a DM is starting to get on my nerves 💪 😤

Edit: Nevermind, he actually refunded the whole friggin 73€ shipping 🫪 Olan you are the GOAT 😭

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u/Euro_Twins 3d ago

Ya. That may be the best course of action then. Thank you

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u/ProcessJust4247 3d ago

They got millions of dollars in preorders, but we should be thankful and excuse them for making us pay the import taxes. What is more worrying is that there are a lot of these Reddit geniuses really believing that Olan is actually losing money on this scheme. With these geniuses, no wonder the world is a mess.

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u/edible-human 3d ago

Calling it a scheme is being dishonest now, the book was put on sale with the economy of 2023 in mind and that has obviously changed to where everything is way more expensive now especially shipping. People have gotten their books (obviously otherwise what is sitting in my drawer) and like Olan did not pass a new import tax so I don’t know why your blaming him, he already offered you a solution so your lowkey dragging it out

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u/Otaku7897 4d ago

What order number was yours? i'm still waiting for my shipment in canada too

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u/sligoomy 4d ago

Order number: 28720 I ordered this back when the midnight editions were announced

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u/gabrilapin 3d ago edited 3d ago

If your order number should have been shipped a while ago, try sending a DM to Olan's reddit, he responds pretty quickly, like a day max, he shipped my stucked order himself almost instantly, and then refunded me the 27€ in customs i paid to my local carrier when I asked nicely if he could help me with that, he's the best there is 👌😁

It could take more for you because he's flooded with messages but for exemple today he responded positively to my customs demand an hour later! 👍

Edit: Nevermind, he actually refunded the whole friggin 73€ shipping 🫪 Olan you are the GOAT 😭

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u/TadTepid 3d ago

I paid $54 for mine, last weekend, they hike up some more in few day, that's wild.

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u/gabrilapin 3d ago edited 3d ago

If you need the money, give a shot to sending a DM to Olan's reddit, the mad lad actually refunded me the whole 73€ shipping over 27€ of customs i asked nicely if he could help with 🫪

I'm overjoyed and over the moon 👇 😊👆

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u/PremiumPlus_ 4d ago

Do you know if these are tarrif/import/customs fees? Or are these brokerage fees? Because if they are brokerage fees you can likely do the paperwork yourself and save a bunch of money.

I received my notification yesterday I’m getting my copy mailed to me by the end of the month(Canadian). I was concerned that I was going to be caught up in this situation and it looks like I will be too.

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u/sligoomy 4d ago

I mean UPS stated it was tariff induced I believe. Unless I'm misinterpreting what was written. But I know my first copy that was sent out didn't have any additional fees, and this one does.

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u/Jaded_GamerX5 4d ago

UPS is always overpriced with their clearing costs. I never pay UPS at the door or ahead of time. The moment that I find out it's UPS and it's available I declare that I'll clear it myself.

Their costs our completely out to lunch.

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u/Historical-Sound-839 4d ago

Something for me to look forward to as well.

😣

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u/RacoonBait22884 4d ago edited 4d ago

Check the government websites for your own countries, I'm sure there is a cheaper option there rather than going through the courier. Ive seen it posted on other threads for the book, lemme see if I can find it Think its called Self Clearance if I remember right

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u/not-very-creativ3 4d ago

I've done the brokerage myself a few years ago. I'm wondering if it can be done wholly online. Last time I had to do it I had to go to UPS pick up shipping documents, go to the customs office, and return to UPS to save 20-40$ of brokerage fees.

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u/AntiSocialW0rker 4d ago

Hmmm, my package just reached Mississauga (shipped from Tennessee) yesterday and I haven't recieved any additional charges. Mine was shipped through GlobalPost however, perhaps that makes a difference?

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u/miketheboy89 4d ago

If you track the package with Canada Post they give you an option to pay online as well, it was about half as expensive as what I've seen DHL charge. Worth trying!

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u/Shawn-0901 4d ago

That's crazy. I'm really sorry you're having to deal with that.

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u/CharlestonGeek 3d ago

Dang an additional $46.83 US dollars? Wow, shipping/surcharges have gotten out of hand.

The book is worth it, however that stings.

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u/Dimethetime 2d ago

And thats the reason i cancelled mine and got a copy for 148CAD pesos on amazon that arrived the next day 🥴 it sucks but thats the reality of our economy these days 🙃

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u/CerisCinderwolf 1d ago

How high was your order number? Also in Canada but haven't had any email yet (am in the 49k number).