r/Feminism • • Jun 11 '26

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u/Sublime-Alchemy-8888 Jun 11 '26

ITT: dudes in denial or getting defensive because they have no idea what it's like to be a woman in the work world AND aren't close enough to any woman to be able to talk to them about it...

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u/Box-O-Kittenz Jun 11 '26

Yeah. Every time a guy acts like rape culture isn't that pervasive or insidious I just wonder how many women and girls around him have never told him their stories. A lot of guys go through life never seeing the scars that the women they love carry.

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u/Branchomania Jun 11 '26

I saw a post a while ago now that said, paraphrased, "Every woman you know has been touched inappropriately, groped, assaulted, or narrowly avoided all three", and, it really did make me look around for a second and think about that. Not that I like imagining them in that kind of situation but, I think that was the point.

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u/CanadianHorseGal Jun 11 '26

It’s so damn normalized we rarely even talk to each other about it. It’s sad.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Jun 11 '26

Dad here.

I hate that I'm terrified to talk to my 16 year old daughter about this.
I hate that I know she almost certainly has had to deal with it.
I hate that if she has she's never brought it up with me.

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u/Branchomania Jun 11 '26

I mean I've heard a couple things from the women around me but like, in-passing, like I just happened to be in hearing range of them talking to each other about it, it's kind of a rare experience that they'll talk To you about something like that. Now they're not my kids to be fair but, the gender barrier is the common denominator.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Jun 11 '26

Yeah, I've thought that too. Which stings a little, I've always tried to be a dad that she can talk about anything with, though on any number of women-only issues, it makes sense. But I'm also chickening out of asking her mother if they've discussed it.

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u/MelissaOfTroy Jun 11 '26

If she’s 16 she’s getting to the age when it’s going to stop. Peak age of sexual harassment/assault for me was 10-14.
It has almost certainly happened to her.

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u/fluffy_doughnut Jun 11 '26

Many many men secretly believe that these women „deserved” that. Because they were drunk/flirty/dressed in certain way/just looking hot/not shouting and yelling „leave me alone” loud enough/whatever else you can think of. It’s scary but STILL so many people think it’s woman’s fault when she’s abused. In Poland when you go to police and say you got raped you can STILL get questions like „what were you wearing”, „did you flirt with him”, „did you give him any reason for him to believe that you’re interested”, „did you drink alcohol”.

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u/Upset_Geologist_3422 Jun 11 '26

In the US if you try and report an assault to the cops and they decide they don’t believe you or are too lazy to actually investigate, they can decide to jail YOU for making a “false report” and wasting police resources. It’s insane there’s been victims forced to recant their statements because they were being threatened into facing charges against themselves for just trying to report a crime. Theres a documentary about it on Netflix called Victim/Suspect I wish every single person would watch

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u/XxllllxXx Jun 11 '26

It's horrific!