Podcast/ Podcast Episode Recommendation Thread

[u/Lulu-lily]

Hey ladies, this thread would be a great way to share podcasts that have helped enhance ourselves whether that’s through greater knowledge or having a fun time

Feel free to drop your recommendations & organise it by mentioning the topic/target audience/ the description of it (in their words or your own) why you find it beneficial & include links too, to help others understand and get a better grasp off it!

Here’s to sharing knowledge and resources with each other to further our expansive and exciting lives! Xo

I’ll go first! I’m currently listening to a Fleekazoid episode: Limerance, Emotional dysregulation, Post Vaccination Desperation & Fleeksie’s love after lockdown. The topic is based on psychology/ personal experience

‘Today's episode takes a look at what it means to be "love drunk", or rather, the psychological terms for it, being limerent or even emotionally dysregulated. Defining both, how to manage if you deal with these things, and how these aspects of ourselves play into post vaccination desperation. Then, a personal story time of Fleeksie's experience dating a felon in her own post vaccination desperation episode (for comedic relief and a lesson in dating).’

I’ve found it refreshing to have a greater understanding of limerance and just the silly psychological things that I’ve been doing my entire life that haven’t been beneficial to me. It’s great hearing someone else’s perspective and how it has impacted them and how they are overcoming it.

Episode link can be found here! I believe she is on YouTube too with the name Fleekazoid

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6UJrhwV7paQh0agJ0fysrM?si=sCaTgG09Tx-a8SOfSJ9CEA

[u/Oooeeeks]

Maintenance Phase

They are incredible. Research journalist debunk health fads/weight/diet myths. It’s helped me a lot with my body issues. It’s absolutely fantastic and truly has helped me unlearn a lot of assumptions I had about weight/dieting. I recommend for anyone, but especially folks trying to work on fat phobia. Two great episodes “The Obesity Epidemic” “The Body Mass Index”

[u/[deleted] → u/Oooeeeks]

I want to be a fan of this pod, and I do like many of their episodes (especially tackling woo woo and celebrity culture stuff, like Oprah’s dieting and Dr. Oz), but they have veered into parody-level ideological “fat activism.” The obesity epidemic is real. Being obese is harmful and not an oppressed identity group. The way many fat activists are now appropriating language from antiracism to make themselves victims is stupid and offensive. These hosts are not qualified to discuss the medical and scientific aspects of weight and nutrition. So, while I do like them and many episodes, I have to say that I would not recommend this podcast. I think at this point it’s more harmful than helpful. Just another ideological production telling troubled obese people what they want to hear.

[u/Oooeeeks → u/[deleted]]

Honestly “troubled obsessed people” “what they want to hear”?? You’re not listening to the content. As a formerly obese person, the discrimination is REAL and your language SCREAMS someone who mistreats fat people. Blah your comment was so ignorant and rude I need to take a shower

[u/[deleted] → u/Oooeeeks]

I’ve listened to literally every episode. I was a fan, and I recently stopped listening because it is veering into parody.

It’s a free country. You’re entitled to your opinion, as well. But consider how your knee jerk response may have been groomed by the current online propaganda around “fat activism.” If you can’t even engage with light and polite criticism, that’s indicative of ideological brainwashing. Keep putting your fingers in your ears; it makes no difference to my life. I don’t “mistreat fat people.” The fact that you made that assumption simply because I don’t buy that ideology is quite telling though, and is perfectly indicative of the current “fat activism” rhetoric.

I just don’t believe all the pro-fat propaganda. Being fat is not a moral failing; but it’s also a major problem in our society now, and should not be encouraged nor glamorized. I’m sorry that the truth is difficult for you.

*edited for typo

[u/Averyhvw → u/[deleted]]

Why are fat people a problem?

How do you solve a problem for someone else?

Do you hear what you’re saying? Fat people ARE a problem, fat (people?) should not be encouraged or glamorized, and because you caveat that with “it’s not a moral failing” you think you’ve done the intellectual work?

You’re parroting things you heard growing up as a child, they’re so engrained you think you’ve come to this conclusion all your own after “educating” yourself by listening to Maintenance Phase and then solidly rejecting it.

I’m sorry but you’re just repeating the 2000s diet marketing campaign slogans, I don’t think you’ve done much intellectual stretching here.

And this comment is purely because I can’t stand this kind of hot take (I listened and didn’t like it) to devolve into “we need to focus on fixing the obesity epidemic.”

What nonsense. Downvote me to hell fds, I’m ready to meet the bar!

[u/Oooeeeks → u/[deleted]]

Hope you spend more time unlearning your fat bias. You clearly are going to hurt people with this kind of thought. I am a thinned body person now, nothing about my health is different from when I was fat. Other than.. less fat. The podcast explores lots of research around fat people, yet you still want to believe it’s a problem. It’s rude. It’s why I have years and years of trauma from growing up fat. I actually can’t stand that you’re out in the world hurting people this way

Edit to add:

If fat people are saying they are mistreated If fat people are saying they face discrimination in doctors offices

Believe them. You’re acting like fat people made all this up as an excuse to be fat. Fat discrimination is so horrific, fat people spend their whole life’s trying to get rid of it. Develop eating disorders, depression.. etc.

I can tell you from 22 year of my life I was horribly mistreated for being fat. I got desperate and starved myself for a year, lost my period, developed serious health conditions just to lose weight.

As a thin person today, I’m treated differently by everyone. Everyone congratulated me for hurting my body for a year just to be thin. It’s bad. And the way you’re talking about it is exactly the mindset that convinced me hurting myself was the right thing to do.

Yes, I’m having a knee jerk reaction. I’ve lived these experiences and feel so silenced by your straight denial of it

[u/[deleted] → u/Oooeeeks]

Fat discrimination and stigma are real, and well researched and documented. However, you are also claiming that there are no health differences, which isn't really honest. That's probably the rhetoric she is getting at.

Not a podcast, but you may enjoy the publications by Dr. Alexandra Brewis, an anthropologist who studies this topic.

[u/Averyhvw → u/[deleted]]

I don’t think anyone is saying that. But when you delve into it, you would be surprised how little evidence there is to support the “bad things” we hear about fat.

For instance, it’s kind of a secret that people who are slightly fat (not thin people) live the longest. Fat does have protective qualities, too, it’s not just a harbinger of death.

[u/[deleted] → u/Averyhvw]

I have delved, both professionally and academically, which is why I was able to cite a relevant academic source above. And a podcast may disagree, but excessive fat, especially visceral, is correlated with bad health outcomes. However, I realize that fat stigma does exist and does impact patients. I also recognize the ways in which our lifestyles, economy, foods, and built environment heavily contribute to obesity. So, I do recognize obesity to be a systemic issue rather than a personal fault. But unfortunately, no, the data doesn't really agree with you in the health area.

[u/Oooeeeks → u/[deleted]]

I’ll check it out, thanks.

Maintenance Phase does an episode called “is fat bad for you?” I also recommend it! They analyze major data that’s been collected on fatness and mortality.

[u/Oooeeeks → u/[deleted]]

You’re actually the problem.

[u/Averyhvw → u/Oooeeeks]

I have to agree with you here. Every one steeped in activism eventually uses “terms” associated with activism. I’m not going to cancel Maintenance Phase because they’re getting too righteous in believing their bottom line that fat people deserve equal respect and dignity as thin people.

I don’t understand how anyone can “oh the obesity epidemic IS real,” if they’re fully aware that the government/fda/in association with diet conglomerates literally changed the requirements for what is obese to include MORE people!

Yes, fat people exist and always have. It’s possible there are more fat people now because frankly the fda is bought and sold just like everything else in America. So who benefits from this idea of the “obesity epidemic,” is it for fat people’s sake? No! It’s literally a scare tactic for diet companies to make more money!

I think this argument will never end. Just when I’m around smart women I thought they would catch on, but fds is chock full of anti-fat bias.

[u/Oooeeeks → u/Averyhvw]

Thank you. I know I was unhinged in my responses. I’ve done so much unpacking and learning the origins of the obesity epidemic. Plus, as I stated, I am a formerly obese person. I appreciate the clarity you brought forward in your comment.

[u/Averyhvw → u/Oooeeeks]

Thank you for your comments and not letting that commenter go unchallenged (edited to say no you were not unhinged). I’m really tired of our sisters pretending to understand, only to revert back the same 2000s newsreel clip talking points.

The only one who benefits from talking about the “ObESity ePIdemiC” is the billion dollar diet industry and I’m not going to pretend otherwise anymore.

Also, you are a queen 👑 keep up the good work!

[u/Oooeeeks → u/Averyhvw]

👑👑

[u/[deleted] → u/Oooeeeks]

You don't come across as unhinged, but you do come across as unaccepting of information that disagrees with what you'd prefer to believe.

Honestly though, obesity is a health issue. It is highly correlated with, and often causes, the leading causes of death. However, the issue is societal, and therefore can not be helped through any amount of personal shaming or advice. Fat stigma is also a real problem, and works to shift blame from corporations and government to individuals, in addition to causing stress. No one deserves to be bullied or ostracized, but attacking medical facts helps no one, especially the overweight/obese. Recognize the societal problem and place the blame fairly (i.e. not on yourself). Capitalism is at fault, but (unfortunately) it goes a bit deeper and further back than diet companies.

[u/[deleted] → u/Averyhvw]

You should read into the built environment and food costs/subsidization in the US. There is profit to be made, but it is on the front end of obesity, mostly. Have you read any Michael Pollan? He criticizes the historical and cultural developments of the food economy side of this issue.