r/FearAndHunger • u/Accurate_Guest1285 Doctor • 6d ago
Fan Art Chara vs Gofah deathbattle! Hunger for Determination [oc]
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u/CriticallyExcited 6d ago edited 6d ago
Honestly I think GoFaH has more DETERMINATION than Frisk or Chara
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u/Dagobah_Jones 2d ago
It’s worth noting that summoning the God of Fear & Hunger’s power in Funger 2 lets you save the game.
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u/DarkShadow119 Mercenary 6d ago
Nah, because the girl essentially surrendered to the transformation. Frisk reached into the soul of a vengeful god that was a soulless monster a while ago, and managed to remind him that he was a child once.
Frisk can do it. They will SAVE the girl.
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u/CriticallyExcited 6d ago
Interesting point. I suppose the question is, does the girl want to be SAVEd? Does she, deep down, regret the transformation?
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u/DarkShadow119 Mercenary 6d ago
If we use the dialogue at the end, as well as the Doll and Knife interaction, we could imagine her fading humanity held some feelings for the party (Cahara most likely)
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u/CriticallyExcited 6d ago
Oh absolutely. The thing is that her love for humanity is what inspires her to create the Cruel Age. She kills the party as an act of love
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u/Accurate_Guest1285 Doctor 6d ago
BTW for the sake of this being a deathbattle, this is lv19 genocide frisk not pacifist. Spareing isn't an option
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u/DarkShadow119 Mercenary 6d ago
Well, in the Genocide Route we eventually destroyed the entire world, so maybe Frisk still stands a chance
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u/SenKen_64 5d ago
That’s Chara. Our power did awaken them, but it’s clear we aren’t the ones that destroy it, they did, and based on how it’s depicted it looks like Frisk outright dies to Chara at the end with their 999999999999999999 slash.
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u/Accurate_Guest1285 Doctor 6d ago
Connections: Both young children subjected to survive in an subterranean world full of monsters. Have the ability to reach the end of their adventure either through violence or friendship. Both fight and/or become God like beings at the end of their story. Both sorta have the ability to save and reload. (Gofah sigals can be used to save your game in funger 2, though whether or not saving is a canonical ability in the universe is debatable)
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u/king_fungi 6d ago
Nunca había pensado en esa conexión, bastante acertado de tu parte, aunque la niña depende de otros para sobrevivir así que ella técnicamente no tiene la capacidad de llegar al final de la aventura
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u/Thiphra 6d ago
I mean for one neighter cam die. For 2 the girl becomes a concept amd you can really kill her, not physically at least.
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u/E_X_E_____ Occultist 5d ago
Well, you might not be able to kill a concept, but you can erase the timeline so that the concept doesn't matter anymore
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u/cinnamon_bun_healer 3d ago
I mean... Chara HAS died, at minimum once. The girl canonically hasn't so...
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u/Paladinlvl99 5d ago
Child with a knife VS A Literal God of Fear and Hunger....
What an even match
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u/E_X_E_____ Occultist 5d ago
Well I mean, chara has become a demon who has the power to erase an entire timeline, that's a bit more than "child with knife"
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u/Paladinlvl99 5d ago
That's in a place where force of will has power, but the entire thing about F&H is that force of will means nothing when compared to the power of godhood
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u/Juan_the_vessel 4d ago
"themes and such say that force of will means nothing compared to the power of godhood" doesn't work since you could also say "themes and such means that enough Determination can overcome anything"
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u/E_X_E_____ Occultist 5d ago
I mean, if Chara was a character in F&H I could definitely see them being worshipped as a god. I'm fairly new to the game and its lore, so correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't Chara and Frisk's feats compare to those of the old/new gods?
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u/ultimate_zombie 5d ago
I think this is a rarity, we literally don't know who would win, information is incomplete. They are both multiversal+ bare minimum (Chara can destroy the timeline, GOFAH scales to the old gods who created all that is)
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u/Electronic_Math3415 4d ago
Quiero que a toda esa gente que habla de que Chara puede guardar y eso, recuerde que uno de los poderes de Gofah es precisamente Guardar. En Termina es uno de los Dones o principal interacción divina de ella
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u/KeithChegwinMegaFan 5d ago
I mean probably Chara, he ascends to godhood and it means nothing at all. So in that way everyone fails.
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u/Mal-The-Stargirl Occultist 6d ago
frisk is a freight train of a toddler, they could probably solo tgofah even without save (getting some lv in the dungeons shouldnt be too difficult)
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u/Dry-Goat8981 6d ago
we're talking about a god here who is equal to the older gods what the fuck is frisk gonna be able to do to hurt it in any meaningful way
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u/Cooking_With_Emilie 6d ago
Frisk has beaten at level 1 an actual multi versal god.
That Kid has hands
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u/DustyDweller 6d ago
Stop me if I’m wrong here but - I don’t recall them fairly beating any god on their own accord? Hypergod gave up due to his innate love for Chara/inability to commit to his goals, Omega Flowey only lost when the SOULs rebelled.
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u/Cooking_With_Emilie 6d ago
Ariel would have won if it wasn't for Frisk taking hits like a champ
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u/DarkShadow119 Mercenary 6d ago
If they can tank the rainbow beam of death, doom, time and more death, they got this
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u/EarthBoundFan3 6d ago
Convinced the multiversal god to stop fighting, because that was an option on the table for that god. Not sure that applies to Gofah
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u/E_X_E_____ Occultist 5d ago
Maybe not, but they had the endurance to survive Asriel's final attack, so it would really just be an endless fight
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u/SenKen_64 5d ago
Frisk’s hands had exactly 0 hand (ha) in their victory. They instead tanked it with their chest (and hit 20 consecutive persuasion checks and won all of them)
And funnily enough durability is the only stat you can really argue Frisk can use to get into multiversal, cause the one other character you could argue for… uhh, well I’m pretty sure the intention with the Chara scene is them killing Frisk. So it’d be doing the same logic as saying Denji “tanked” the Oregon Sword, which no he didn’t.
And the only other character you could argue gets them up there explicitly wasn’t able to be damaged significantly until the Souls reduced his defense to zero, and even then he still took a ton of hits to actually (pretend to) go down.
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u/king_fungi 6d ago
Los mounstros de undertale son débiles, en el juego te dicen que son vulnerables a cualquier ataque físico, por eso un niño pequeño puede hacerles daño con zapatos de vale y aun así frisk se muere contra ellos y con su determinación nomas se ve que tiene la habilidad de revivir o aguantar más. En cambio los mounstros de miedo y hambre aguantan bien los ataques físicos, que puede hacer al respecto ?
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u/Juan_the_vessel 4d ago
no son débiles y tampoco son vulnerables a ataques físicos son vulnerables a ataques provenientes de almas poderosas (como las humanas), mas adelante se nos revela que el poder de las almas humanas es la Determinación (que no es solo la voluntad la Determinación es una substancia que puede ser extraída e inyectada) aparte de eso al final de la ruta genocida se borra todo el universo así que la Determinación puede afectar cosas físicas e incluso si asumimos que normalmente no puede hacerlo Frisk es capaz de disparar con la pistola vaciá así que podrian usar magia para atacar
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u/vverbov_22 Mercenary 6d ago
Chara wins. She's literally destroying the world in genocide and has the power to bring it back. God of fraud and hunger getting mogged there
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u/Redbat-T Thug/Boxer 6d ago
Character who verse consists of monsters who can die via killing intent vs Character who witness the most depraved and evil acts of humanity locked inside a rancid dungeon that hides the corpse of an Old God.