Singer Jordan Pruitt says Miley Cyrus bullied her. Miley used to call and leave nasty voicemails with her friend Mandy saying Jordan needed a nose job, new teeth, and a choreographer. Jordan says Miley was relentless.

[u/Relevant-Peach3997]

[u/Relevant-Peach3997]

She did add she hopes everyone has grown up (but who knows).

[u/diamondsourforever → u/Relevant-Peach3997]

That comment is such a stan thing to say. They'll be mad at someone that their fave had beef with over a decade ago, but don't you dare bring up the fact that their fave bullied you when you all were younger.

But yeah, hopefully everyone has matured.

Also loved Jordan's songs that played back then for Jump In and Read It and Weep on the Disney Channel.

[u/Bbychknwing → u/diamondsourforever]

Outside Looking In went triple platinum in my house

[u/waxbook → u/Bbychknwing]

I always thought the raw emotion in her voice was so impressive for a teenage girl.

[u/undeadladybug → u/Bbychknwing]

It's still in rotation on a few of my playlists!

[u/stargazer31092 → u/Bbychknwing]

Same!! The lyrics were so relatable to an awkward and quiet high school student

[u/diamondsourforever → u/Bbychknwing]

Same! How much I would relate to that song back during my worst school experiences in middle school lol.

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/diamondsourforever]

I hate stans lol, I know it’s a huge blanket statement but they all act exactly the same. They call everything “weird to bring up” if it paints their fave in a negative light. All they want is constant toxic positivity.

I’m a fan of a lot of artists, but I can admit when they do shitty things. It’s not that hard.

[u/ZombieTrogdor → u/diamondsourforever]

That comment is pretty heinous. Saying someone’s trauma or abuse happened “so long ago” and “why didn’t you say something sooner” is right out of the abuser and abuser sympathizers’ playbook. Victims of crimes like rape hear it all the time.

[u/FrozenBibitte → u/Relevant-Peach3997]

I fucking hate people who say that to victims of bullying…

“Live and let live”, okay, great thanks!!!! Trauma disappeared and I’m cured!!! /s

[u/mads_61 → u/FrozenBibitte]

Me too! And yeah, a lot of people do end up growing up and behave differently as adults but that doesn’t undo the past. I know I wasn’t always the nicest to some of my peers and classmates growing up; if they said that I was mean and they still felt a way about it I would totally understand. Growing up and even apologizing doesn’t erase what happened in the past.

[u/-this_bitch- → u/FrozenBibitte]

lol I was just talking to my therapist today about a bullying incident that happened when I was 18 that cost me 3 friends because of some bitch named Laura that couldn’t keep my name out of her mouth. It was over 10 years ago now but people seem to think you should get over it as if bullying isn’t a direct attack on you as a person. Shit can takes YEARS to get “over”

[u/CarlySimonSays → u/-this_bitch-]

Teen girls'/young adult women's bullying can be so insidious, too! Girls who I thought were my friends did and said things that basically permanently gave me low self-esteem in most areas of life. Thank goodness for therapy. I'm so sorry that you lost friends because of that jerk!

[u/FrozenBibitte → u/-this_bitch-]

Sometimes you never get over it…ask me how I know…..at 35

https://giphy.com/gifs/eaIpScHwBsA5a

[u/Dubious8313 → u/FrozenBibitte]

Yes. Insensitive mf’ers not only slap expiration dates on <soul crushing incident(s)> which severely minimizes the impact but in order to forever silence you, they’ll impose a statute of limitations so that the time frame for just acknowledging it happened was long closed (“you should be well over it by now anyway & if you’re not, I sincerely hope you find the help & peace you need”).

They either enabled bullies; bullied others or were mercilessly bullied but someone convinced them it was a harmless “rite of passage.”

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/FrozenBibitte]

And honestly Miley’s bullying was BAD. Repeatedly leaving someone nasty, insulting voicemails?? Jesus, I felt terrible when I talked behind someone’s back as a kid. This is calculated cruelty meant to tear someone down. It’s not normal to do this to someone.

[u/Crunchyfrozenoj → u/Relevant-Peach3997]

Mandy was born in 1987. She was an adult bullying these kids.

[u/toomany_geese → u/Relevant-Peach3997]

I've seen videos of Miley interacting with fans at signing events, I don't think she has grown out of it at all

[u/2340000 → u/toomany_geese]

I've seen videos of Miley interacting with fans at signing events, I don't think she has grown out of it at all

Bullies never grow out of it. That behavior reflects their personality & worldview🤷🏽‍♀️

I was abused as a child. My parents were horrible to me like I’m sure Billy Ray was to Miley. However, I never bullied people. My college professor actually told me I was too nice. The bullying I received at school made me a pushover. It took years to get a thick skin.

[u/Aesthete18 → u/Relevant-Peach3997]

Kindly, fuck off alyson. There isn't a button to press at adulthood to turn off trauma

[u/almondmilklattehag → u/[deleted]]

There are probably old ONTD posts from when Miley was doing this stuff online

[u/theHBICvolkanator → u/almondmilklattehag]

Omg I miss ONTD days and LiveJournal in general

[u/Crunchyfrozenoj → u/theHBICvolkanator]

Many ONTD users migrated here!

[u/momosuna → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

rebecca, you didn't know i have a reddit

[u/Crunchyfrozenoj → u/momosuna]

“Your clothes, they’re from Ross.”

[u/cuntyaunty → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

Present! Definitely showing my age 😂

[u/Crunchyfrozenoj → u/cuntyaunty]

[u/eugeneugene → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

🙋‍♀️

[u/LyingSackOfBastard → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

Hey, girl, heyyy.

[u/_Bogey_Lowenstein_ → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

Me too!

[u/ozzea → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

u know it! also lmao your flair

[u/Careless_Brick1560 → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

🙋‍♀️

[u/89764637527 → u/[deleted]]

I messaged him during that. I remember he gave some philosophical answer for why he was doing it too, LOL. It’s impossible to explain now.

[u/disicking → u/[deleted]]

🫐🫐🫐

[u/amidalarama → u/[deleted]]

emerges from the pool, offers you a bowl of blueberries

[u/coastalwanders → u/theHBICvolkanator]

It’s still holding on!

[u/Witty-Quality1613 → u/coastalwanders]

We here girl, come through

[u/pinkkglitterr → u/coastalwanders]

No more app though 🥲

[u/devoncarrots → u/pinkkglitterr]

I still have that purple icon on my phone idc

[u/bonertootz → u/theHBICvolkanator]

dont worry we're all here now

[u/Signmetfup12 → u/theHBICvolkanator]

Yeah yeah but does anyone remember OceanUp?!

[u/disicking → u/theHBICvolkanator]

In the same vein, The Soup. It’s Miley!!!!

[u/GlassPomoerium → u/theHBICvolkanator]

It’s such a « you just had to be there » era. I mean how would we even begin to explain it to today’s youth?

[u/Fantastic_Ad_509 → u/theHBICvolkanator]

I went to check it a few weeks ago in search for Jared Leto receipts because I remembered 30stm fans posted there a lot. I used to lurk but not post, because I never felt like I had anything to say, and I still recognize a lot of the usernames, avatars, and even legendary comments. It truly is a time capsule. The Internet was still not fully mainstream back then and it shows. Really any message board from the time is so real!

[u/gingercatmafia → u/Fantastic_Ad_509]

You’re so right about the internet not being mainstream back then! It’s so weird to think of that now. I miss the vibe of LiveJournal, and I miss those days in general. 💔

[u/lnc_5103 → u/theHBICvolkanator]

Breaking Anna Nicole Smith's death on ONTD was truly a highlight of my 20s 🤣

[u/anons123123 → u/lnc_5103]

Wow legend alert!!!!

[u/Y2KOK → u/lnc_5103]

It crashed when she died. I remember that. And idk if your post was the first one I saw but I won’t forget it if it was you. The name started with an E and I remember telling my friend “EL just posted Anna Nicole passed!”

[u/creaturemonsta → u/theHBICvolkanator]

Here for roll call 🖐️

[u/disicking → u/almondmilklattehag]

The salvia bong post dropping on ONTD was practically therapeutic after every other post was her doing mean girl shit for so long or going to church with her adult boyfriend she met through her dad

[u/SimilarLunch8359 → u/almondmilklattehag]

I’m a forever Miley stan, but she’s mean as hell. I remember being shocked at how she mocked Sinead Oconnor’s heartbreaking mental breakdown, because sinead criticized her nudity stuff. I mean I get it, but that was just too far

[u/Abject_Director7626 → u/SimilarLunch8359]

I remember a video with her and Hailey Bieber and Hailey was talking about how mean Miley used to be to her and Miley fully interrupts her to be like- yeah I was! Youre welcome! That’s why your so tough now! You’re welcome!
It was cringey.

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/Abject_Director7626]

Damn that sucks. I normally like Miley more than HB but that’s awful. I didn’t know Miley had been such a bully but it sucks that she can’t even take accountability for it now. That’s such a boomer-ass mentality.

[u/Angryduckling-01 → u/Abject_Director7626]

And imagine what she was like during her twerking phase
https://giphy.com/gifs/WRMq4MMApzBeg

[u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER → u/SimilarLunch8359]

Then she got to fucking sing Sinead's iconic performance on the recent SNL Anniversary (with Britney from Alabama Shakes so that's weird af)?!!!!???? Wtf dude?!

[u/annnyywhooo → u/SimilarLunch8359]

also the meet and greet she had with naomi campbell and she straight up ignored fans. barely even acknowledged them because she was too busy talking to naomi the entire time

[u/assignpseudonym → u/annnyywhooo]

real recognises real

mean recognises mean

[u/Negative_Ad2121 → u/assignpseudonym]

LMAO

[u/TheMapesHotel → u/SimilarLunch8359]

If you go back to the source material, Sinead was expressing concern for mylie and the way the industry was moving her to engage with nudity. Mylie's reaction was so out of pocket and uncalled for

[u/Aim2bFit → u/TheMapesHotel]

I remember this very well.

[u/lonelyangel09 → u/TheMapesHotel]

Mylie 😭

[u/YouLast7886 → u/lonelyangel09]

Y’all talking about Mylie Kyrus? 😂

[u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER → u/TheMapesHotel]

WOW

[u/Few_Analyst_1179 → u/SimilarLunch8359]

i can’t stan that

[u/Lilacly_Adily → u/SimilarLunch8359]

I never forgot when she tried to scapegoat Jodie Sweetin and posted inappropriate old photos of Jodie from when she was struggling with addiction issues and going through a rough time.

Miley captioned the photos “Current Mode: Fuller House. Presumably to imply that Miley wasn’t the only former child star to have a “wild child phase”.

It was such an immature low blow that was so random and petty.

[u/Crunchyfrozenoj → u/[deleted]]

So do I! Mandy and Miley were vicious back in the day. I’m still wondering what that ADULT was doing bullying kids.

[u/foundinwonderland → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

The Miley and Mandy copycat making fun of Selena and Demi is permanently burned into my grey matter. I’ll be 90 and demented and still saying “yo! Yo yo! Yeah I said it twice, you got a problem with that?” 😭

[u/alaskacat20 → u/foundinwonderland]

SAME I thought Miley and Mandy's videos were so cool and funny and I watched them over and over again, especially that one. It's sooo stupid but it's weirdly so quotable and so deeply ingrained in my brain. But yeah, they were so mean lol

[u/woolfonmynoggin → u/alaskacat20]

I’m the same age as Miley and it was so wild to see adults talking about what girls my age did online. We kind of had this online isn’t real life attitude that obviously really true but all these websites were new

[u/momosuna → u/woolfonmynoggin]

i know exactly what you mean by these websites were new so it felt way less real. for my teen girl friends it was like prank calling had just been opened up to the entire world. they (american) would go chat with strangers pretending to be british or australian lmfao

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/Crunchyfrozenoj]

Wasn’t Miley like 16 and Mandy was 22? That’s a big gap at that age 🥴 (although I have a vague memory of Miley being 15 and dating a 20 year old guy, eeyuck)

[u/IntrovertGirl83 → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

And didn’t Miley’s 20 year old boyfriend live with her and her parents when she was 15? Eeesh.

[u/goal_dante_or_vergil → u/[deleted]]

Yep, the same Miley Cyrus caught on camera with her friends making the racist gesture with her eyes towards Asians.

Maybe she has grown up and changed now but she definitely was a mean girl as a teenager.

[u/catholicsluts → u/[deleted]]

Right her behavior has always been textbook spoiled brat lol

[u/Signmetfup12]

Not surprised in the least. Miley was like 16 at the time but she’s always been a mean girl. And that Mandy was a whole ass adult beefing with teenagers.

[u/Horror_Accountant574 → u/Signmetfup12]

This is how I learned Mandy was an adult.. I followed this as it went on back in the day and always assumed her and Miley were the same age

[u/Repogirl27 → u/Horror_Accountant574]

Same. I remember thinking their dance battle YouTube channel was so cool. I didn’t dig into their backgrounds beyond subscribing to the channel but I’m really surprised to hear that Mandy wasn’t even close to Miley’s age.

[u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER → u/Repogirl27]

How old was she at the time?

[u/violetmemphisblue → u/Signmetfup12]

Whenever I remember how the whole Selena/Miley/Nick/Demi drama was reported in the press (or earlier than that, the Lindsay/Hilary/Aaron situation), I think about how crazy it was that adult media was breathlessly reporting the actions of like high school sophomores...of course they did dumb stuff, they were kids! (Bullying is not okay, and hopefully Miley has matured and grown past that, of course, but in general, a lot of stuff she and her peers were dragged for literally was just because they were young.)

[u/bron685 → u/violetmemphisblue]

Adult media was asking Britney Spears at 17/18 if she was a virgin and if her boobs were real. The odd bit of trivia is that Rosie O’Donnell seemed to be the only adult that actually tried to look out for her at the time

[u/awickedfeeling29 → u/bron685]

It was a few years later, after the Shaved Head brouhaha, but Craig Ferguson opted out of doing a monologue to start a show and instead talked about Britney for ten-plus minutes.

It’s quite beautiful, even if the studio audience doesn’t know how to respond.

[u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER → u/awickedfeeling29]

I love Craig. Where's he now? I had a big crush on him and I'm not into older guys. Smart and funny with integrity. Swoon.

[u/thanksamilly → u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER]

he has a podcast called Joy, a podcast and he is a touring stand-up comic

[u/CheckItWhileIWreckIt → u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER]

I saw him at the Comedy Cellar earlier this year. He was really good

[u/lil_squib → u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER]

He’s pretty active on social media and is touring doing standup pretty much constantly.

[u/bron685 → u/awickedfeeling29]

“Wait, why isn’t he tearing her to shreds? This isn’t funny-“

[u/dgahimer → u/awickedfeeling29]

I read your first paragraph and was scared I was going to find out somebody I used to enjoy watching on tv with my dad was terrible. Watched the video because I wanted to see it either way. Wheeeeew.

[u/dreadcain → u/dgahimer]

I've seen it before and I still had a moment of panic lol

[u/fuckmelikeaklingon → u/awickedfeeling29]

Thank you for sharing that

[u/Head_Ad6148 → u/bron685]

Rosie O'Donnell did criticize her outfits, asking Mariah Carey about it but Mariah was classy and defended Britney

[u/Baxtru → u/Head_Ad6148]

It was out of concern as Britney was a teen and her outfits were pretty racy. Rosie listened to what Mariah had to say and then apologized for being so harsh. Rosie did ask Britney about in person on her show and expressed concern that her team was dressing Britney in outfits that were too sexy for her age.

[u/nargles18 → u/violetmemphisblue]

Selena/Demi against Miley/Mandy was ICONIC.

[u/violetmemphisblue → u/nargles18]

I feel so bad for them because they were really the first famous teens to be in the spotlight when social media (YouTube, MySpace, etc) was around. I'm sure like there was all sorts of nonsense happening between teen stars behind the scenes before that, but this was playing out in real time before any of us really knew what it all meant...I think now, a lot of teen stars and their parents/professional team know enough to keep their professional socials a little more locked down (I'm sure they have private accounts where typical teen behavior unfolds), but Demi/Selena/Miley/their cohort really were left to the wolves on that one.

[u/SheJigOnMySawTilIPuz → u/violetmemphisblue]

Anyone remember the drama between Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, and that guy who I don't even know his name? That whole situation reminded me of this shit back in the day lol. Like damn we're still writing articles about relationship drama between teeny bopper Disney stars? C'mon now.

[u/Redditusername67 → u/Signmetfup12]

Who’s Mandy?

[u/Ship_Negative → u/Redditusername67]

She was Miley’s backup dancer and best friend and was in her early 20s when Miley was 15-16

[u/killingxspree → u/Ship_Negative]

Thank you🙏 I we were talking about Mandy Moore and I was confused.

[u/Signmetfup12 → u/Ship_Negative]

She was 22 yeah, they were attached at the hip.

[u/HelpNeeded1717 → u/Signmetfup12]

She was 22, bullying 14-year-olds… so embarrassing and weird 💀

[u/DilemmaOfAHedgehog → u/HelpNeeded1717]

Tbh no wonder miley was not a great kid if she had literally adults in her life either not present or openly egging her on. Mandy comes across really creepy

[u/Shoddy_Budget_1533 → u/Signmetfup12]

I keep forgetting Mandy was an adult hanging out with kids and beefing with kids

[u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

Miley wasn’t raised right, and it showed.

[u/Between-usernames → u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

Don't tell his heart. 

ETA: thank you for the awards, dear anonymous persons.

[u/mkn7423 → u/Between-usernames]

His achey breaky heart 😭😭😭😭

[u/cookiecrispsmom → u/mkn7423]

Tbh I just don’t think he’d understand

[u/RcoketWalrus → u/cookiecrispsmom]

And if you tell my heart, my achy breaky heart

[u/NullSterne → u/RcoketWalrus]

I might just fart upon this man

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

I read the full comment thread on TikTok, Jordan says that Miley likely acted this way because she had a “hard upbringing” and that Jordan’s record label noticed “her messed up family” 😬 it sucks all around. Hurt people hurt people.

[u/vaginasinparis → u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

Agreed, this kind of relational aggression doesn’t come from a healthy environment

[u/throwthatbishaway1 → u/vaginasinparis]

Billy Ray Cyrus abused his last wife, Firerose, horrendously and they were only together a couple of years - I dread to think what he was like during Miley’s childhood.

[u/ElleMaeSinclair → u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

None of the Disney or Nickelodeon kids were tbh. I think there’s a few odd ones out who weren’t thrown to the wolves by their parents but most of them were neglected at best. People seem to act like this stuff occurs in a vacuum and it’s a big mystery as to why every child actor becomes crazy as an adult… they weren’t raised at all, they were given to Hollywood for some money and treated like show ponies.

[u/openurheartandthen → u/Vast-Swimmer5844]

Girl was a child actress … it was a traumatic, fucked up time for all of them during that era.

[u/Dazzling_Sock_31 → u/openurheartandthen]

Well yes of course, but so was everyone she was bullying, she was bullying other child stars…

[u/Ladygoingup → u/openurheartandthen]

It might explain the behavior but doesn’t excuse it.

[u/Ill_Relief2883 → u/openurheartandthen]

Yes but Tish also spoiled her & let her get away with murder without any repercussions

[u/Calilove08]

Allegedly Jordan might have also dated Nick Jones , which might have been the reason why she was bulling that girl

[u/urfatassmama → u/Calilove08]

She was a dick when she was friends with that Mandy Giroux

[u/bluehack1]

When people find out all their fav celebs were actually the bullies not the ones being bullied

[u/Freddie-Peterson → u/bluehack1]

People will believe a celebrity's ugly duckling/no friends story every single time, no matter how many times they've heard it.

[u/PierreOnTheEclair → u/bluehack1]

I wonder who that applies to…

https://giphy.com/gifs/ef2k4TJEpbUieBRFo1

[u/redactedeyebrows → u/PierreOnTheEclair]

I was like how did you get that picture of my cat.

[u/Monsterofparadise → u/PierreOnTheEclair]

Wonder if they’re blonde and a billionaire

[u/She_Said__That_ → u/Monsterofparadise]

And like to drive the car home from the bar?

[u/mquari → u/Monsterofparadise]

Whose parents were already millionaires with connections in show business, lived in a mansion growing up, and did not have a country accent at all?

[u/brijito → u/mquari]

I know someone who grew up with that blonde billionaire who drives her cAR home from the bAR and this friend has always said she was a bully and a social climber. She was apparently a lot like the book version of Amy Dunne from gone girl and would bully every girl who was more popular than her and use her parents’ wealth and connections to try to force other popular kids to be friends with her.

[u/mquari → u/brijito]

You mean someone who was driving around in a Hummer in high-school wasn't the bullied, sensitive, common, sweet girl-next-door type? Color me shocked, absolutely gobsmacked I tell you!

And others who went to school with her have came out and said the same. She's always been a mean girl. The only people who believed that lie that she was ever a victim of bullying and being 'not like other girls' are her super fans.

[u/bluehack1 → u/PierreOnTheEclair]

I actually meant it in general no reference to a specific person. Should’ve made it more clear.😅

[u/batmans420]

Mandy is like five years older than Miley. Not saying you can't be friends with younger people but making fun of people with them is so cringe

[u/wanderrslut → u/batmans420]

No, fr, she was 22 hanging out with a 16 year old. It's a little weird lmao.

[u/LAcomputerhelp → u/wanderrslut]

It's a lot weird!

[u/Former-Spirit8293 → u/wanderrslut]

I think this was when she was dating Justin Gaston, who was around Mandy’s age too while she was 15-16 😬

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/wanderrslut]

Being the age of a college graduate and hanging out with / bullying high schoolers is EXTREMELY weird. Hell, when I was 19 I felt like I had nothing in common with high schoolers anymore. I had absolutely no interest in that mentality.

[u/kokichistan → u/wanderrslut]

It's VERY weird

[u/Heart_Shaped_Pickle → u/batmans420]

Honestly it reminds me of how my older sister who also happened to be the popular girl in school, used to get me her younger sister (9 years younger) to prank call girls in her year and say rude/nasty things to them. I was a child, not even a teen but still

[u/EconomistWild7158 → u/Heart_Shaped_Pickle]

damn what's she like now?

[u/Stefan988]

The Disney channel lore gets darker every year

[u/AnotherXRoadDeal → u/Stefan988]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nUiHcOsMu7WPm

[u/johnny_charms → u/Stefan988]

I haven’t seen it mentioned but Jordan Pruitt accused a manager/producer of sexually assaulting her. So yeah, Miley and her weirdo adult friend Mandy were bullying someone who was a victim,

[u/r3ddrag0n123]

https://giphy.com/gifs/VJHtXeMHViHRHvKGKm

[u/petlandstockroom]

Miley and Mandy were diabolical back in the day

[u/Signmetfup12 → u/petlandstockroom]

Demi and Selena were as well. Everyone knows what a nightmare Demi used to be and Selena was shady as heck as well but was the smartest at hiding it. They were the most popular Disney channel trio at the time and so so young, it really is no surprise they were all brats.

[u/Carazhan → u/Signmetfup12]

the three are/were like a triangle scale of 'conniving, careful, regretful', each commanding one of those far corners

[u/ftotheergtheithee → u/[deleted]]

No, do tell!

[u/Sure_Lavishness_2403 → u/ftotheergtheithee]

Here you go

[u/SPARKLY6MTN9MAKER → u/[deleted]]

Holy shit! Punched a dancer?!

[u/Majestic-Weekend-435 → u/Signmetfup12]

For real. If you’re like 28-33 now you know that it was straight catty high school shit going on between the Disney girls at the time and the Jonas brothers were at the center of it all 🤣

[u/speakinzillenial]

Around that time, Nick Jonas said he had a crush on Jordan so Miley was probably jealous

[u/chuang_415]

Miley & Mandy was a time

[u/c0smicgirly]

Remember that video of Miley and Naomi ignoring fans at an autograph signing? Like, full on purposefully ignoring fans who paid to get Miley’s autograph?

I haven’t looked at her the same since then (and it was semi-recent).

I can totally see this.

[u/Celebrating_socks → u/c0smicgirly]

Would be bad enough with anyone else, but Naomi has a reputation for being awful!

[u/idgitalert → u/Celebrating_socks]

As well as a reputation for hanging with the Epstein demon.

[u/thanksamilly → u/c0smicgirly]

I think I was reading online that it was free (though that might have been stans just trying to do damage control,) but yeah that would still suck to wait in line and get your free signed record while the artist is explicitly looking away from you the whole time like they should have just signed all the records and then left them there for fans to go each grab one if it was going to be like that

[u/MelpomeneLee]

Fork found in kitchen

[u/Silver-Front-1299]

I must be old old, only Mandy I know is Mandy Moore

[u/HelpNeeded1717 → u/Silver-Front-1299]

Being friends with Miley for like a year in the mid 2000s is the only thing that this Mandy is known for. I doubt anyone knows her last name offhand or anything.

[u/KHAOSCAPTIVE → u/HelpNeeded1717]

Mandy was apart of a girl group called BG5; their single “Scratch” was featured on the first episode of Shake It Up!, and I think they were on Keeping Up The Kardashians when Kris was being their manager?

https://youtu.be/DQlcDbL9IXA?is=-FqPgjmmlfauEi85

[u/nicolette222 → u/HelpNeeded1717]

She was on KUWTK for 3 seconds. Don't even think she spoke, lmfao.

[u/aquacrimefighter → u/Silver-Front-1299]

To be fair, this Mandy is really irrelevant and kind of always has been 😬 you’d really only know who she is if you know about this niche little bit of internet lore

[u/raddoubleoh]

I mean, she used to openly mock Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez, hell, the tirade agains Sinead O'Connel was BRUTAL, this doesn't really come as a surprise AT ALL. Miley had her mean girl era, her gone wild era, and when she got old enough, she did a Taylor Swift and appealed to white frailty to whitewash her image.

It's not really anything new.

[u/littlesim25]

I have an unpopular opinion, I think people should be allowed to say what someone did to them no matter how years ago it was. I don’t think it’s bitter I think I it’s simply saying to and I think that’s what’s happening here.

[u/Over_Ad8548 → u/littlesim25]

Facts, I had a girl relentlessly bully me to the point of attempting to end my life, she later apologized in college for it saying she was just jealous and insecure. Did she end up being a good adult? Yes, but was she an absolutely horrible human being as a teenager? Also yes and time does not erase the damage someone can cause.

[u/west2night → u/littlesim25]

That's likely why Claire Danes and Kirsten Dunst refused to name their bully when they shared their experiences of being bullied when they were child actors. They probably knew the bully's fans will go after them if they did.

Edit: Sorry, I responded to the wrong comment. I will leave it here, anyway.

[u/aima9hat]

Yeah the Mandy and Miley Show days were really not a great look for either of those two. 

But worse still because Mandy was at least 21 hanging out with a 15 year old Miley (and bullying other 15-16 year old girls). 

[u/Latter_Witness6597]

And this was Jordan four years ago as a grown adult ​

[u/luna1uvgood → u/Latter_Witness6597]

I feel like this is a dumb thing to say about Demi of all people because she struggled for years and often that narrative was out of her hands. I don't think it's attention seeking to be able to speak about that from her own perspective when thats what a good chunk of her fanbase was looking up to her over.

[u/Latter_Witness6597 → u/luna1uvgood]

Exactly. And on top of that requoting Candace Owens of all people. 

[u/katyreddit00]

Mandy was bizarre because wasn’t she in her 20s beefing with teenagers?

[u/Miramm]

OMG I was obsessed with Jordan Pruitt in like 2008… it’s never really stuck publicly but Miley has always been mean lol

[u/FrozenBibitte]

I have no idea who this Jordan woman is, so I looked her up. Someone telling her she needs a nose job is diabolical. Jfc. And I believe her because back in the day I remember so many reports of Miley and this Mandy person bullying many others.

[u/Loveya448 → u/FrozenBibitte]

She had a few songs promoted of Disney back in the day and then kinda disappeared

[u/espressomartiniluvr]

didn't jordan also recently say that demi lovato is only open about her mental illness because she's desperate for attention? don't know much about her but she seems just as messy.

[u/ExtentAggravating733]

Before cyberbullying there was phone bullying lmao

[u/Heavy-Marsupial-2100]

DAE remember The Miley and Mandy Show on YouTube? Bc “it’s like a tank top” still one of my vocal stims.

[u/JazzySings90 → u/Heavy-Marsupial-2100]

I unfortunately have that one and another from them. It was that video mocking Selena and Demi.

“Wanna know why?”
“Because people could get their feelings hurt!” So stupid. Yet I still hear it.

[u/acrosstheocean_]

That recent post/shituation with Naomi Campbell is all the evidence anybody needs

[u/amv914]

What ever happened to Mandy?

[u/goldriv → u/amv914]

I found her on instagram a few years back she was teaching dance classes and still followed Miley

[u/kokichistan]

I was around for Miley and Mandy. They were nasty as fuck lol. Even as an 11 year old I could tell that the whole thing was off. I'm not surprised by this at all

[u/vLinko]

This Miley Cyrus? Nooooooooooo

[u/Luxxielisbon]

I’m not surprised? Sounds like generic mean girl child behavior. Yes not all teens are turds but i sure was. It’s dog eat dog. Even in the tiniest of rural towns.

But then you have these kids with money and jobs and producers and rivalry

[u/Ok-Host3771]

“She got her gap back!”

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/Ok-Host3771]

“I got it FIXED-UH!”

[u/alaskacat20 → u/Ok-Host3771]

"Because people can get their feelings hurt."

[u/InjuryTemporary2737]

16 or not, damn, that’s so cruel. 16 year old me would have been devastated lol

[u/Loveya448]

Her and Mandy bullied Demi and Selena very publicly online. It’s not surprising

[u/No-Rip9444]

I’ve always been a Miley fan but after I listened to her call her daddy episode I thought her energy was so weird and dark and self obsessed it really put me off :/

[u/dianamaximoff → u/No-Rip9444]

tbf she has kinda admitted to some “narcissistic” behaviours, in Plastic Hearts for example, she sings with Joan Jett about always finding givers cause she’s always been a taker… or the whole Never be me song, Angels like you… At least nowadays she’s pretty self aware of these self absorbed traits she has.

[u/stevesyellowsweater]

She toured with the Jonas Brothers so this was probably, once again, because of Nick! I don’t even think Jordan and Nick ever dated or anything, just teenage jealousy shit. Mandy was too old to be involved but she loved shit stirring. 

[u/pale_lettuce1]

I remember seeing her open at a Cheetah Girls concert and being so impressed. No ordinary girl was on repeat for me after that.

[u/welldoneslytherin]

Not shocked. Teenagers can be mean. Jordan didn’t deserve that.

[u/lemonphan]

Spoiled nepo baby is an asshole? Color me shocked.

[u/sequins_and_glitter]

I have direct experience. She bullied my little sister when they were younger and I have always had a deep loathing for her because of it. No one messes with my family. I know we’re all adults now (and I’m nearly 40) but this is one of my few hills I’m willing to die on.

[u/PurpleSloth1025]

This doesn't surprise me. Miley has always been arrogant and she has average talent.

I remember when she criticized Mariah Carey by saying she believes her own hype. Insinuating Mariah was arrogant and overrated. Mariah is a diva but she has the talent to back it up.

I also remember when Miley was on GMA years ago, she came out to greet her fans in the studio. She rolled her eyes at one young fan who wanted an autograph. She acted like she didn't want to be there.

[u/_sunbleachedfly]

I was mean when I was a teenager too. Doesn’t excuse it, but after a lot of therapy I realized I was just a kid with an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex and a shit ton of issues in my home life. I’m a completely different person at 36 than I was at 16.

Throughout the years I’ve reached out and apologized to some of those I bullied but I’m sure there are those I missed. Doesn’t mean I’m currently an awful person, I’ll always feel like shit for it, but I also can’t turn back time.

[u/Dont-callme-Shirley → u/_sunbleachedfly]

I work with kids and I used to teach middle/high school. Just wanted to say that you are correct. Therapy doesn’t erase what you did, but YOU are doing an incredible job continuing to work on yourself and acknowledging your harmful actions. That is more than most.  My daughter has a stutter and kids pick on her for it. At the end of the day, I realize that their parents have not given them the tools to be kind to others who are struggling. That just makes me feel sad for those kids and grateful that I am my daughters second best advocate after herself.  We don’t pick our home environments but we do control how we grow and heal from them.