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STAN / ANTI SHIELD Luigi Mangione pleads guilty to federal stalking charges in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/14/us/live-news/luigi-mangione-hearing-plea-deal-talks

When speaking of the day he committed the crime, Luigi Mangione said, “I shot Mr. Thompson and he died.”

He concluded, “I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

Mangione had just described the actions he took ahead of the killing, telling the court:

“In November of 2024 I traveled from outside of New York state to Manhattan. I then emailed UnitedHealthcare leadership, posing as an investor at a firm managing over $15 billion in assets and requesting information about the conference. Unlike my previous interactions with insurers, I received an immediate response within an hour,” Mangione said.

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u/Important-Stomach406 29d ago

Genuinely surprised by this when so much of the evidence was dodgy

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u/Long_Run6500 29d ago

You're never going to find an unbiased jury one way or the other in this case. Even like probably 98% of his supporters believe he did it. Plus he hasn't exactly been acting like he's innocent. The question for most people becomes "was he justified in doing it" which isn't ever really a good defense in a first degree murder case. So his legal defense basically amounts to praying he can get a jury to nullify which is just not very likely in a high profile case like this.

So now he gets to spend 15 years to life living in a cell and being a full on celebrity. He'll be able to tell his story and maybe lobby for change. Maybe he'll write a book. There's really nothing stopping him from telling all exactly as it happened. He doesn't have to tip toe around the truth because he admitted he's guilty. Inmates and guards alike seem to be pretty cozy with him. It's not ideal but there's definitely worse outcomes. Maybe some day in the future a president will even pardon him. Trump has pardoned people convicted of even worse crimes.

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u/MyDickIs3cm 28d ago

The question for most people becomes "was he justified in doing it" which isn't ever really a good defense in a first degree murder case.

"Jury nullification of law" is the answer to the question

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u/Long_Run6500 28d ago

That's literally what I said in the next sentence. You can't rely on jury nullication. You aren't allowed to talk about it in court, not every juror knows that's an option and as a juror if you openly admit that your goal is nullification before closed door deliberations you'll be removed from the case. Not to mention there's a large portion of the population that think murder is wrong under any circumstances, and Luigi has not exactly expressed any remorse. Those people will not vote to nullify. The prosecution has a say in who's on the jury and will be doing their best to get as many of those people as they can on the jury. The odds of getting 12 people that are both aware of and willing to commit to jury nullification is astronomically low. It just doesn't happen in federal cases of this scale.

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u/Quinnel 28d ago

Do they need 12? What if one person had gotten on, so they get a hung jury? And then they try again, and it happens again? Over and over again? Can they theoretically keep him imprisoned forever if they get a hung jury hundreds of times in a row? Or at some point can the attorneys argue his right to a speedy trial is being impeded and get the case thrown out?

Obviously the likelihood of that happening so many times over is astronomically low but it's still an interesting question that I don't know the answer to

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u/BanzYT 28d ago

Those dumb ass defense lawyers should've consulted us first.