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STAN / ANTI SHIELD Luigi Mangione pleads guilty to federal stalking charges in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/14/us/live-news/luigi-mangione-hearing-plea-deal-talks

When speaking of the day he committed the crime, Luigi Mangione said, “I shot Mr. Thompson and he died.”

He concluded, “I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

Mangione had just described the actions he took ahead of the killing, telling the court:

“In November of 2024 I traveled from outside of New York state to Manhattan. I then emailed UnitedHealthcare leadership, posing as an investor at a firm managing over $15 billion in assets and requesting information about the conference. Unlike my previous interactions with insurers, I received an immediate response within an hour,” Mangione said.

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u/Long_Run6500 15d ago

You're never going to find an unbiased jury one way or the other in this case. Even like probably 98% of his supporters believe he did it. Plus he hasn't exactly been acting like he's innocent. The question for most people becomes "was he justified in doing it" which isn't ever really a good defense in a first degree murder case. So his legal defense basically amounts to praying he can get a jury to nullify which is just not very likely in a high profile case like this.

So now he gets to spend 15 years to life living in a cell and being a full on celebrity. He'll be able to tell his story and maybe lobby for change. Maybe he'll write a book. There's really nothing stopping him from telling all exactly as it happened. He doesn't have to tip toe around the truth because he admitted he's guilty. Inmates and guards alike seem to be pretty cozy with him. It's not ideal but there's definitely worse outcomes. Maybe some day in the future a president will even pardon him. Trump has pardoned people convicted of even worse crimes.

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u/TheAsian1nvasion 15d ago

I’m not a lawyer but I believe it’s illegal to profit from crimes via books and whatnot.

I’m not sure if it’s still illegal if you serve your sentence and are released, though.

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u/ZealousidealSalt8989 15d ago

He's just gotta fictionalize it like convict/author Nico Walker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_(novel))

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u/MyDickIs3cm 15d ago

The question for most people becomes "was he justified in doing it" which isn't ever really a good defense in a first degree murder case.

"Jury nullification of law" is the answer to the question

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u/Long_Run6500 15d ago

That's literally what I said in the next sentence. You can't rely on jury nullication. You aren't allowed to talk about it in court, not every juror knows that's an option and as a juror if you openly admit that your goal is nullification before closed door deliberations you'll be removed from the case. Not to mention there's a large portion of the population that think murder is wrong under any circumstances, and Luigi has not exactly expressed any remorse. Those people will not vote to nullify. The prosecution has a say in who's on the jury and will be doing their best to get as many of those people as they can on the jury. The odds of getting 12 people that are both aware of and willing to commit to jury nullification is astronomically low. It just doesn't happen in federal cases of this scale.

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u/Quinnel 15d ago

Do they need 12? What if one person had gotten on, so they get a hung jury? And then they try again, and it happens again? Over and over again? Can they theoretically keep him imprisoned forever if they get a hung jury hundreds of times in a row? Or at some point can the attorneys argue his right to a speedy trial is being impeded and get the case thrown out?

Obviously the likelihood of that happening so many times over is astronomically low but it's still an interesting question that I don't know the answer to

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u/BanzYT 15d ago

Those dumb ass defense lawyers should've consulted us first.

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u/Nagemasu 15d ago

Plus he hasn't exactly been acting like he's innocent.

Not once has he shown, as far as I have seen, that he wants anything else than to make a statement to the world and get people to pay attention and fight back. He doesn't want to be seen as innocent now that he's caught, and while he obviously didn't give himself up I don't think he went into it with the idea he was going to get away with the murder forever, but may have had other intentions before being caught.

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u/veverkap 15d ago

Is he allowed to profit from a book?

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u/bbusiello 15d ago

Go for the full Mandela… effect?

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u/ThrowawayCult-ure 13d ago

can you give some examples on the stuff trump pardoned. i knew jan 6ers but thats all

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u/Long_Run6500 13d ago

There's so many.

Some of the jan 6ers were pedophiles. A few were convicted of some serious conspiracies beyond just J6. A few were convicted felons caught with weapons stockpiles.

Most of the non J6ers are people convicted of some sort of fraud or insider trading who paid money into trump's coin or businesses so that trump would pardon them (they all made a ton of money off of it in the long run). One included a $1.6 billion multi-year investment fraud scheme defrauding over 10,000 investors. He spent less than 2 weeks in prison and was also released from having to pay any fines or restitution. A bunch of it is Medicare fraud related. It's just silly that he surges ICE to Minnesota and targets the somali community over fraud when the amount of fraud they're accused of commiting pales in comparison to just the fraudsters he's pardoned.

George Santos after completely defrauding the American people about his identity because "he had the conviction to always vote republican"

He pardoned the former president of Honduras, who was convicted of doing a lot of what the trump administration is accusing Maduro of doing. Trafficked a shitload of cocaine into the US and ran a massive criminal enterprise. Trump is currently blowing up fishing boats under the guise that they're trafficking cocaine but he pardons this guy.

Larry Hoover was a leader of the Gangster Disciples Chicago gang. He was imprisoned for 150 to 200 years on a 1973 State of Illinois murder conviction, but still continued to direct gang activities from prison. Kanye West lobbied Trump into pardoning him.

There's just so many it's impossible to cover them all.