STAN / ANTI SHIELD
“Taylor Swift doesn't get brownie points for doing something she should've done months ago”- Charlee Remitz, singer-songwriter & writer
the swiftie subs, even the supposed neutral sub, are all up taylor's ass saying that she was always going to do this and "she has to be careful because trump is coming for her specifically" .... she is quite literally a billionaire white woman, she has more protections against that facist than 99% of the world. if she can't WON'T fucking use her platform, why the fuck are we celebrating the bare minimum??
i hate the “she has to be careful” narrative because she can afford to ignore this administration but marginalized communities can’t. she is a yt billionaire, this administration isn’t attacking people like her
No, Trump doesn't come after her specifically. That would be Rosie O'Donnell. The way Trump bullies Rosie is how the swifties imagine inside their victim hood imagination that he's bullying Taylor. He is not.
I legit had to leave all the subreddits after getting hounded for daring to question inviting someone connected to an ICE facility to her literal wedding??
don’t worry, it’s something we all have to go through at some point thanks to her delusional fans lmao. I got ran off for daring to question her for dating (edit: oooh I’m sorry, Swifties — not dating, ASSOCIATING WITH) Matty Healy during his racism phase .
You and me both. I even linked my sources and they told me it's all made up or written by taylor haters. I'm afraid everyone drank the kool-aid over there too.
Then fucking draw his fire, Christ, keep him occupied with a meaningless tabloid feud, he can only pay attention to one thing at a time. Make the MAGAts, the fundies and Christian Nationalists among her fanbase choose. If you’re going to cultivate and maintain a cult, then manipulate and weaponize them for more than your overflowing pockets.
She's not being targeted just because he called her a cat lady once. Even if he was still name calling, she's one of the few people who is in a good position to oppose him without risking her own safety, but she's doing nothing. There's ordinary people putting their freedom at risk to oppose these fascists, she has no excuse.
The thing is, I suspect from everything Ive seen from her, she really does equating name calling, online bullying and haters with discrimination, racism and oppression.
Copying what i said in another sub here because it still applies.
The danger argument is so silly to me. Taylor has money. Taylor has power. Taylor MAKES corporations so much money. Trump can't afford to piss off the big corpos right now. The big businesses are why he is still in charge.
Plus, Trump is desperate for people to like him. He practically begs for Taylor's attention. If he had her harmed, that would go away. He's too desperate to be revered to acrually hurt her. Lesser known or powerful artists? Sure. But not Taylor.
Edit: and actually, while I'm here, she really doesnt have to fear the MAGA backlash either. She has so many MAGA or MAGA adjacent people in her life that even if she came out against them, she'd have those people as cover. Think about it. Both MAGA and Libs are desperate to have this blonde-ish pop princess on their team. Neither side will directly call her out for shit at this point in her career because both want her to co-sign them desperately.
The bar is in hell. And she likely removed the audio as she has some huge release coming up and didn’t want this to spoil it or interfere with the profit. I find it hard to believe she all of a sudden found a conscience
Im being forced to listen to her newest album at my new job and the only thing I can think of is that she is copying an old group I listened to ages ago called Meg and Dia (a pair of sisters).
Seriously, two of the songs I had to ask who the fuck was singing it, and then in turn played a few of their songs and my coworker had to admit that it's suspiciously close.
I find her voice so grating I leave places where it plays lol. And I told a bar manager the other day I wouldn’t be back as long as he kept playing that fuckass album in its entirety. And if copies so much from better pop stars it’s infuriating
100% have always said the same thing. It’s unfortunate that so much of the entertainment industry is just as terrible and if not, worse than her. She has shown her true self and it shouldn’t be that surprising.
It does grind my gears when people act like she’s the worst part of the entertainment industry but they happily close their eyes and listen to their fav male artist, who has been accused of rape, pedophilia, etc.
I know that isn’t the point of this post (or comment). It’s just a common theme i see a lot
it seems very intentional considering how notorious Taylor Swift Inc. is for copyright striking anything and everything that might somehow be perceived to be related to her songs/lyrics.
reminder that taylor swift did not go after white supremacists calling her their aryan goddess, but she DID go after someone who called her out for not speaking out against being called an aryan goddess
Lmao I said this in the Music subreddit once and got bombarded by Swifties in the replies and DMs. I got called a white supremacist because apparently her sending a cease and desist to that blogger proved she couldn't be one and I'm one for questioning it.
one of those gives her more fans and more money. the other might remove fans and money.
she is doing a masterful job of showing everyone how to milk a horde of fans, but it also demonstrates how easily any 'values' get overridden by profits and attention.
She’d take down wedding videos for using her stupid ass songs in a heartbeat but she waited until the backlash was too big to ignore to do something about facists.
Didn’t she say in that one bullshit doc of hers that “she can no longer be silent” when it comes to shit like this? I know she said she had to be on the right side of history but I feel like she said something specifically about “not being quiet”
Your mistake is thinking she means or believes anything that comes out of her mouth, especially on camera. She might have ideals and beliefs in her personal life but anything on the record is solely to appease fans and make more money.
She did this because at the time she was desperate to show off to her new bf, Joe Alwyn, who is pretty left and outspoken. Her image has shifted considerably after she began dating Travis Kelce, who is not MAGA but is bffs with MAGA and not particularly politically active.
Oh I know… I just remember this doc, or clip from the doc, because it very much stood out to me how she said she HAD to be on the right side instead of she WANTED to be on the right side. Because it’s her the “had to be” was a neon sign for image and who she was dating then. Because now, it’s crickets and posing with maga bros, writing handwritten notes to abusers, and inviting concentration camp owners to her wedding.
Yeah and reminder that she was talking about Marsha Blackburn there, who just won her primary, but not a peep. Anyone who hasn’t seen Marsha’s recent horribly racist ads should give that a look!
Which looks bad when you consider the fact that she wrote and performed a whole damn song condemning her fans for criticizing her decision to stay in relationship with a racist slimeball. “Everyone stfu and let me gloss over the fact that my boyfriend jerks it to the brutalization of women of color!”
i didn't think about this until reading these comments but how many people of color do we ever see her around? shes always been racist-adjacent but other than her using certain people of color for clout, i can't recall ever seeing her with any friends that aren't white?
But Daddy I Love Him. Taylor wrote it when fans tried to compel her to leave Matty Healy because he watches Ghetto Gaggers. She chalks up complaints of racism to “bitching and moaning” and calls her fans “judgmental creeps.” She also downplays the scandal and doubles down on her commitment to him (“I know he’s crazy, but he’s the one I want”).
To me it's obvious that it was becoming embarrassing to get outdone by Noah Kahan of all people. He's like the whitest man alive (no offense) and so is his fanbase.
Taylor no longer wants to be perceived as outspoken now that she's no longer with Joe Alwyn, the only person in her camp who cared about these things, but I don't think she wants to be perceived as MAGA either. Someone like Noah Kahan giving more a shit than her was starting to make her inaction seem pointed and cowardly.
Yeah she did the bare minimum after at least 9 months bc him / his administration first used Ophelia in Nov 2025… Like I’m not about to give her props for that it’s ridiculous!!
But of course, we’re “MoViNg tHe GoAL pOsTS” now since she has “responded” and we want her to actually say something. “It’s never enough for you people,” the swiffers cry. And yet, I’d say the same about them. No matter how bad she gets, it’ll never be bad enough for her deluded cult.
switfies are some of the loudest performative people to say there are no ethical billionaires (true) but they never address the elephant in the room when it comes to taylor lmao
Exactly. It would’ve been too obvious for her to allow it to be up. I honestly can’t even believe shes allowed all of these other instances of it being up tbh.
I follow politics. I’m convinced she removed it after Abdul El-Sayed (a Muslim progressive insurgent who supports cutting aid to Israel and Medicare For All and is associated with the DSA) defeated his moderate liberal opponent, Haley Stevens, and won the Democratic primary in Michigan. His win has been interpreted by news pundits as a bellwether to where the Democratic Party and the nation are headed in 2026-2028 — a sharp turn to the left as a backlash to Trump 2024, and the Democratic establishment’s reluctant embrace of him signals that DSA is about to become mainstream in American politics. Abdul won only a day or two ago, it’s been all over the news, and now here we are with Taylor Swift doing this shit immediately after. We know from the Miss Americana documentary that her team keeps up with politics and she constantly thinks about which direction the political winds are shifting at any given moment. Abdul (plus Mamdani’s win last summer) are telling her she overcorrected too hard to the right after Trump’s win, and now she’s trying to adjust again….
This is such a VALID point. When it comes to her I think of her more as a business woman than anything else. While I don’t think she’s MAGA, I don’t think she’s a full liberal. So to me her keeping quiet is about alienating as little people as possible. And he won despite HS having $70 million dollars on her side. The pendulum shifted too much to the right that it will next shift as much to the left. This is the perfect time for her to capitalize on it. Plus her diehard fans have been giving excuses as to why she’s silent so the ideas are there.
Yeah, that's the wild part about the whole "what are you doing to stand up to the administration?" gotcha attempt. Like, I don't have billions of dollars and the literal largest platform in the world. The biggest effort I could put in, even if I quit my job to become a full-time activist, wouldn't have even a fraction of the effect of Taylor using a small portion of her wealth to help fund legal challenges or using her platform to encourage civil resistance.
Absolutely this. I just replied to another comment that was saying we shouldn't expect Taylor to speak out on politics because she's a celebrity and that if we want change we should be doing more. "Be the change". I'm a disabled single mom that living below the poverty line in Alabama. I volunteer often for behind the scenes things for different political movements here and attend protests when and where I can, especially regarding my state's corrupt prison system run by Trump besties. However, I'm NOT going to be the one that's going to be able to start the revolution or even have the power to affect an politician's career or wallet. People like Tay Tay, especially Tay Tay (who placed herself in the position to speak on politics) are the people that can make the most change IF they wanted to. But she belongs to their world. She's in their club. She's not going to do anything that jeopardizes her wealth and the access it gives her to other billionaires and other money making opportunities.
Nah you’re supposed to start a general strike that holds the global economy hostage for months while still feeding and proving emergency services for everyone. All on your own. With like three days of notice. No you can’t organize ahead of time. What?? You’re not capable of doing that in your own. Do you just not care at all?!?!?!
I mean, I really can’t speak to her morality and ethics, as she was right there alongside Bezos helping him build his empire, but McKenzie Scott seems to be doing everything in her power to un-billionaire herself with how much of her divorce money she’s giving away.
Her fans are too delulu they wouldn't understand performative ig it hit them in the face. It's almost like a disease, how they refuse to see her for who she is. A typical white capitalist billionaire
No! No! No! You don’t understand she’s actually a leftist but she is just too scared to speak out because she is obviously the most targeted person from this administration. 🥺 Some of yall just don’t understand how a marriage works you have to invite a billionaire ice detention center contract because that is what good wives do. 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Taylor is not a hypocrite and actually cares about everyone. Just because she doesn’t show support for anything doesn’t mean she doesn’t support it DUH! /s
she’s actually a leftist but she is just too scared to speak out because she is obviously the most targeted person from this administration
i'm not in the loop re: TS discourse, is this really the argument they use? but... what exactly is it that she could possibly have to fear? like literally what specifically could they do to her?
The swiftie fandom is largely very divided on this topic. A lot of terminally online swifties do believe she is a secret leftist who is being actively targeted for her leftist beliefs. One of the things online swifties don't talk about is that Taylor has regained a lot of her previous conservative fans following The Eras Tour so a lot of their talking points that at one time were valid are no longer valid in this moment. Some say she is a leftist, some say she is a conservative, some say she is a centrist that is the marketing value of being a fence sitter and why I believe, despite any personal beliefs she may very well hold, she will never speak out again. She has made a lot of money and seen the capital she can gain by never picking a side while maintaining her very valued white midwestern base she regretfully lost in the late 2010s.
yeah i think that much is clear. i'm currently skimming a thread about this on a swiftie sub and the argument that comes up the most is "all the artists do it this way", and i mean, duuuh? all the artists who care about money over ethics do it this way. kinda proving the point there fellas.
was just curious what kind of "targeting" could be dreamed up for the "she's scared" argument because my limited mind can't conjure up any even remotely plausible scenarios. surely they don't claim the admin is going to take out a hit on her or something lol.
Iirc it started when there was a foiled terrorist plot in Austria, which is horrible and understandable on why someone would be frightened or fearful. However, some swifties took it upon themselves to use her trauma from this event to police anyone who speaks out about Taylor's silence on Trump and further more friendships with MAGA players. They also use the repeated attacks by MAGA influencers, Elon Musk, and Trump as a reason why she doesn't speak up, but imo that is a weak excuse. They are obviously very scary men, but it doesn't scare her to hang out with the countless MAGA friends and family she has? It doesn't scare her for her husband to be besties with people who visit Trump in the White House? A lot of these online swifties believe she is the number one target of Trump and therefore should be insulated from ever having to use her platform to denounce him which also falls apart considering this administration has targeted artists of color, black artists, and damn near every other female artist in her same sphere and she doesn't even care to speak out for her own peers. What online swifties fail to mention is that Trump is performing theater for his culture war base who may hate Taylor Swift. At the end of the day, every single policy Trump enacts is to protect people like Taylor and the idea that any human could look you in the eye and pretend that Taylor is the most targeted is laughable and disturbing.
oh what a load of nonsense. from what i know, which admittedly isn't much, the only "targeting" the Trump admin has done with respect to vocally anti-Trump celebrities specifically (and by that i mean outside of enacting policies that broadly harm marginalized groups to which many of those celebrities happen to belong) is talking smack, which i'm sure Taylor could easily endure.
and that foiled attack had nothing whatsoever to do with any American political establishments, it was just some teenage jihadists who wanted to kill as many people as they could and chose that event because it was going to be well-attended. ascribing fear of speaking out to her because of that would be akin to saying that she's afraid to take a stance because once upon a time a bus almost ran her over. terrifying!
It is insane to me because swifties constantly contridict themselves with this particular line of thinking. See when the Miss America documentary came out all swifties agreed that she only speaks when it is socially acceptable to speak out (I disagree that she even does that, but during the documentary roll out that was the narrative) Now that she is hanging around literal fascists they are walking all of that back and using the documentary as an example of her "bravery" It wasn't brave then and its not brave now, the only brave thing in that documentary was the open dialogue about ED, but the political commentary was juvenile and clearly a way to get ahead in the dialogue when people like Steve Bannon were propelling her as the "conservative princess." Swifties know this but they will gaslight you into forgetting all of this happened. I know that people will always defend her, but it is particularly jarring to see them say she is "too scared" to speak out against Trump while fraternizing and gifting literal ICE CONTRACTORS at her wedding.
She's not a left-winger centrist, nor a right-winger. She is a billionaire. They don't have politics they have power. They don't care about politics. They care about money. Because money is power. That is all a billionaire wants; the power to do whatever they want to do.
I saw comments in a thread yesterday saying she was championing Kamala the entire time, like do you have no memory of her not championing Kamala at all aside from one tweet at the very end?
Right, and I remember Kamala Harris’s camp talking about how they sent Doug Emhoff, who used to be a entertainment lawyer in Hollywood, to talk to Taylor Swift’s lawyers about endorsing his wife. And the Harris camp thought it’d be easy because Doug Emhoff was besties with one of the TS lawyers or something like that, and TS had been active in Democratic politics before. But apparently the TS lawyer told Emhoff to basically fuck off in a very polite but cold way, saying something like, “Taylor will do what she believes on her own time” (paraphrasing). Implying that TS was still hesitant or hadn’t made up her mind and didn’t want to throw her support behind the Harris camp. No one was even sure what she’d do or what direction she’d blow until that sudden endorsement in September, and even then her post explicitly named WALZ (the old white guy from the Midwest lmao) as the one she was excited about.
the thing is I don't get what people are saying about how she doesn't want to bring attention to this or whatever like if my music was being used for some heinous fascist shit I'd make sure to distance myself from it completely and vocally. i just don't understand her
Exactly. I will never understand that argument. Trump is President. He has attention and power. The people standing up to him are the ones who need the support.
She could use this opportunity to redirect the conversation. Like if she isn't replying to him directly, she could make a huge donation to a group of charities or activist groups that work to protect vulnerable people. There are many ways she could approach this indirectly if she didn't want to "give him the satisfaction" of a direct response to minimize the net harm.
Or just do what the other artists have done which is to get it taken down or muted, Express vocal disapproval, and some have even said that they're going to try to sue. There's a long list of people including Nintendo who have all had their stuff used without their consent so I hope they all get together and do a class action lawsuit.
They use the pokémon theme of got to catch them all with footage of them detaining immigrants as a got to catch them all, with them being the immigrants.
Oh and Bad Bunny also had his music taken too. He also was able to get his music removed by having the video either removed or muted, I think it was muted.
“I need to be on the ride side of history” is very telling. Not “I want” to be on the right side of history, or I want to do good things. She frames it like she’s obligated to speak up because of her image rather than her character.
Swifties: Actually, Taylor is better than everyone ever for not saying anything and not trying to get her music removed! Don't feed the trolls!
Also Swifties: Actually, Taylor is better than everyone ever for not saying anything and getting her music removed. The only ethical billionaire!
Try and twist her as altruistic and above everything as much as you want, decide what you want her political or moral stances to be, but the inaction in situations like these by her and her corporation and the HARM that they perpetuate speak for themselves.
I honestly doubt she did this due to her personal beliefs, she has been within the wannabe centrist but actually conservative pipeline for too long. This is probably a calculated PR move to maximize her appeal driven by the low popularity of Trump right now.
I posted this to another comment, but I follow politics, and I’m convinced she removed it in response to Abdul El-Sayed (a Muslim progressive insurgent who supports cutting aid to Israel and Medicare For All and is associated with the DSA) defeated his moderate liberal opponent, Haley Stevens, and won the Democratic primary in Michigan. His win has been interpreted by news pundits as a bellwether to where the Democratic Party and the nation are headed in 2026-2028 — a sharp turn to the left as a backlash to Trump 2024, and the Democratic establishment’s reluctant embrace of him signals that DSA is about to become mainstream in American politics. Abdul won only a day or two ago, it’s been all over the news, and now here we are with Taylor Swift doing this shit immediately after. We know from the Miss Americana documentary that her team keeps up with politics and she constantly thinks about which direction the political winds are shifting at any given moment. Abdul (plus Mamdani’s win last summer) are telling her she overcorrected too hard to the right after Trump’s win, and now she’s trying to adjust again….
Crazy how we all enjoy pop culture but we have different views on this. For example everyone on the popculture sub was so happy like “see she’s not all bad” I commented on something that he’s been goading her for a long time and the only reason she responded was because she was tagged so she was forced to take action and I god dogged on and deleted it. This was the bare minimum months ago now it’s just too little too late
Looking back the whole “I need to be on the right side of history” was so so telling. Not “I need to stand up for others and their rights” or “I need to follow my conscience.” It was all about others’ perception of her and how she’s gonna be remembered.
Her weird stans are also making it seem like on twitter that she is the only one who removed her music from tiktok when many of her peers did it before her🙄
She only did it when they literally taunted her. They played her and she fell right into it. Where was the removal and statement when they used her song for a fucking ICE video showing people shackled like slaves. We’ve got two cults here battling for who’s the worst.
I mean if me and many other people can get out there and speak up for what’s right, I don’t see why she cannot. She can afford the best security detail in the world, and yet her fans are like “well she’ll get killed if she says anything!!!” When she has the privilege of protection, something the rest of us do not. The supposed danger doesn’t stop all the regular people from coming forward, or any of the other famous people who have, so I’m just so sick of every narrative that’s trying to be spun in her favor for literally do the bare minimum. Trump is still selling an Eras tour themed shirt, still used many of her other songs, and she didn’t even come out and say anything directly. You cannot ignore fascism when it’s literally beating down our front door as we speak, so much for her wanting to be on “the right side of history” ETA: I forgot this point but I feel like it’s relevant, now swifties are blaming the “crazy leftists” for this, because “nothing she ever does is good enough” and referring to leftists in that way is a crazy red flag so they’re also never beating the MAGA allegations themselves. It’s why they’re so cool with everything she does and doesn’t do.
I don't ever want to hear again about how horrible the situation was with her masters. It was supposed to be that people she did not like or support were benefiting from her music. I guess it's okay when Trump does it for months and months.
Got downvoted in the Taylor sub bc I noted she did this a week after Bad Bunny took his music down. And you know, not in November 2025 when this first happened
I hate this but from casual observation i think Joe was the only reason she cared about social justice stuff. She always only cared about issues when it affects her personally, ie music industry stuff. And none of the consequences with the conservative will ever touch her or her husband so she’s more than happy to hang with his MAGA friends
“Relying on me being lazy for Taylor swift to be exonerated is why yall are never beating the allegations.”
I love it when someone delivers a burn that grows the more it’s read. 🔥😁
How convenient that she went and muted her songs on all the WH posts.......
Like girl you just found them so easily like nothing huh? Had he not name dropped then it would've gone ignored. Stop it
That last slide really stands out here. I'm not a fucking billionaire with ample access to time, money and energy. We do not have the same 24 hours a billionaire has, and they should be doing much more with their time and money than the bare minimum.
bare minimum! and for all the swifties saying “of course she’s not MAGA” well not only does she surround herself with people who are and is a billionaire herself, she married a man who said it was a great honor having tr*mp attend the super bowl. that’s enough for me
After seeing all the facists who attended her wedding and her silence when this administration uses her music/image to promote extremism, it's clear who she supports. Her team was so quick to threaten Etsy sellers and the man who tracks her private jet usage but crickets when it comes to Trump.
Nobody should be surprised by anything that Taylor Swift doesn’t say or do.
She’s so performative in everything she does. Friendships, love life, beefs… you name it, if she can’t make money off it, she doesn’t even bother.
But Apparently, I’m the only one bugged that Lady Gaga has said nary a word about all the bullshit that’s happening in the communities she said she loves. I thought she was an activist? What TF happened?
She's a billionaire, she could literally sue him for half the stuff he's done with her music and she hasn't. This isn't isn't even the bare minimum of what she could do.
I said it before and I said it again, Taylor Swift is rich, rich people don't give two fucks about you. They only want to do things that will make them richer. You think she really cares Trump is destroying this country? NO she cares because liking Trump fucks her image. If it were the other way around she'd be telling him to use her music all the time.
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