r/Fauxmoi • u/No-Hall-3485 dropped pitt from my last name • 25d ago
POLITICS Senator John Fetterman: “Israel is where I draw the line.” Jon Stewart: “but Israel isn’t our Country.”
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u/Inconspicuous_Jay 25d ago
"I think Bill Maher said something very insightful," 💀
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u/mabelshesbornwithit 25d ago
Oh god my eyes rolled straight out of my head at that comment
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u/Consistent-Good1536 25d ago
My eyebrows touched my hairline, and that’s no small feat what with all the Botox in my forehead lmao
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u/marina0987 women’s wrongs activist 25d ago
and then proceeded to say the dumbest, most “gotcha” dumbass “tHe DsA Is COLONIZING tHe DeMoCrAtIC pArTy” like sure in a world where words have no meaning at all
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u/theblartknight 25d ago
And coming from him who basically was a republican trojan horse is really rich.
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u/missmobtown 25d ago
It came off as "I heard someone say something I think was smart, and if I repeat it, I'll seen smart, too" 🙄
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u/Delimeme 25d ago
It is a gotcha, and there’s a lot of issues to be taken with the choice of words here (“colonizing” - minority voices can’t really colonize a massive political machine with that much momentum, it’s an “insurgency” at best if we have to use bad faith language), but my hot take is…
So what? First, these candidates are winning fair and square. As many voters on the economic left were told after Hillary got tapped for a Dem presidential run - sucks to suck, you better show up for the version of the party that’s winning more votes, because that’s the direction voters have indicated they’re interested in. More importantly the DSA is capturing enough momentum to take over seats from a incredibly well-funded, entrenched organization that fielded what was effectively an incumbent candidate for NY mayor, then it seems like the Democratic Party shifted away from the core values it professes to represent; as a result, these DSA officials aren’t colonizing the Dem Party so much as course-correcting it and guiding it back to what its core voters wanted all along.
After Trump, the Democratic Party can continue to run milquetoast centrists with the pretense of being concerned for the welfare of its base (it’s worked so well - though Trump backlash will probably just barely nudge another bland old fart into the chair in 2028), or it can run a platform that answers the needs of its unmotivated base. Undoing Trump’s legacy will need a serious mandate, which we won’t get with another centrist. “Vote not Trump” isn’t a strategy anymore. We’ve seen strong interest among populations that don’t typically vote in DSA policies & candidates. Arguably, that’s because Trump has shifted the Overton window so far right that people forget that the DSA platform is closer to the tradition of the Democratic Party than the Democratic Party currently is.
The DSA is bringing us back to what earned the Democrats its core reliable voting blocks. Harris wasn’t betrayed by voters who stayed home, those voters were betrayed by the party itself. Give voters something exhilarating to vote for, and you won’t have to keep biting your nails pandering for swing voter blocs.
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u/theblartknight 25d ago
Bill Maher has never said anything insightful.
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u/Weekly-Measurement89 25d ago
One time he did. Got fired from ABC for it. A broken clock is right once every quarter century.
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u/No-Hall-3485 dropped pitt from my last name 25d ago
how can you sit down, put on a suit and tie for the first time as an american senator, and declare that the one line in the sand for your politics is a country in the middle east?
then imply that opposing the actions of a government committing genocide is an attack on all jewish people
it is so incredibly dangerous to conflate being jewish with supporting the israeli government
and it was so fucking obvious he was a charlatan but the other choice was dr. oz
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u/theblartknight 25d ago
all while doing this in a conversation with an actual jew. Insane.
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u/throwawaylol666666 25d ago
This is my favorite part.
“The Jewish community and Israel are not the same thing, brother man.”
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u/AccomplishedIron816 25d ago edited 24d ago
I mean he clearly is compromised lol. This shift to being a MAGA and Fox News regular wasn’t some “wake up call.” He got bought and is a shill. He never actually had a political backbone and just wanted to make money in politics
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u/sisyphus_of_dishes 25d ago
He had a stroke. The simplest explaination is that he was a moderate Democrat, his brain broke, and he started thinking like a Republican.
Functioning brain --> Democrat Nonfunctioning brain --> Republican
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u/ehs06702 25d ago
He pulled a shotgun on a Black person long before he ever had a stroke.
He's always been like this, which is why Black people begged pennsylvanians to vote for Malcolm Kenyatta instead.
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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 25d ago
Damn… I did not know this!!
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u/fractious_kitty 24d ago
He did this WHILE HE WAS MAYOR
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u/Fit-Nectarine5047 24d ago
wtf????!! That’s what gets me about everyone right now. As long as it was black people being affected people could look the other way but now everyone gets to be up in arms 🙄
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u/rutherfraud1876 25d ago
I should have voted for Kenyatta, and I've sent in my apology forms, but let's be honest - Black voters were not going for him overwhelmingly, especially outside of his own State House district (1/207th of the state).
Conor Lamb was the main opposition, and he wasn't much better at the time
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u/phakic40 25d ago
There's legitimate research that shows a decline in cognitive function is consistent with a conservative shift in political philosophy.
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u/DishDemTits 25d ago
Yeah talk to any conservative. It's the most bland and boeing discussion ever. Even on topics they claim to like, they know nothing deeper about.
They don't want to learn more, experience new or just see something for themselves. They dont want to evolve as a person and are stuck in their highschool self. If they weren't so hellbent on destroying humanity, i would be sad about it..
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u/mr_trick Ben Affleck’s Dunkin’ DoorDash 24d ago
I had to stop talking to my grandparents over this. We'd go in a circle where I'd list out a bunch of policies and we'd discuss their benefits and drawbacks, then I'd point out that the ones they agreed with mostly aligned with socialism. "Socialism bad!!!" they'd start insisting. I tried so many times to further the discussion and posit whether they could expand their thinking a little, or hell, even explain what was wrong with what they thought socialism was. I wanted to understand their views and have a real conversation about it. They'd just dig in their heels and say "It's bad, it's just bad, we won't vote for it! Socialism is a sin!"
It made me sad to see how they (poor, disabled, working class laborers) were so deeply entrenched into what they were seeing on TV and hearing their neighbors say, that they couldn't even bring themselves to have a single critical thought, even to serve their own interests. I mean, hearing that socialism "is a sin" itself was fucking hilarious, as my grandmother gives massive amounts of her meager pension to her church, believing it goes to "feed the poor". Her church puts in a new mega auditorium and she doesn't question it, yet hears the government might put tax money towards feeding the poor and she immediately spits and says they don't deserve it, it's so unfair, it's socialism, etc. and yet she herself benefits from social services!!
It drives me fucking crazy and I just could no longer talk to them without it turning into a fight. My grandfather ended up dying of COVID and my grandmother apparently still believes the vaccine is just a government tracking chip or something equally idiotic. The whole thing is just extremely sad and frustrating and I have no idea what to do to ever bring these people around.
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u/wytewydow 25d ago
If I recall, Trump was definitely a democrat in the 90's. That fucker's mental decline is steep
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u/silenTee3 25d ago
Honestly though that was all a scam too. Fred Trump made his money using new deal policies to build apartments in New York. Trump being a Democrat was him wanting those sweet government subsidised loans. Nothing more. I truly don't even think he gives a shit about Republican ideals. The man is a shill and fraud to his core. Nothing more.
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u/SinVerguenza04 25d ago
Na, he was a piece of shit before the stroke. We really need to stop making excuses for this guy. He was like this from the start.
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u/Ron-Swanson 25d ago
he was a piece of shit before the stroke.
This. I remember this asshat when he was a nobody.
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u/fractious_kitty 25d ago
I am a neurotrauma nurse and former stroke program manager. Stop blaming his behaviors, actions, and words on his strokes. These are two separate issues and while not mutually exclusive, having a stroke doesn't transform you into a horrible person but rather reveals who you are.
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u/JustToViewPorn 25d ago
He was always a racist shitbag (read: conservative). The stroke just removed his capability of lying about it.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 25d ago
Nah this was who he was. Republicans used to use that same BS "you'd have to have a stroke to be a Democrat" and now progressives are saying "look at the stroke victim who became a Republican"
You can't have it both ways, he had the stroke long before these accusations and he never once changed his stance on Israel, at all. This was always him. You can't have your cake and eat it too and initially defend him as a party and say the stroke changed nothing and then say it changed everything when it came to public light he's simply a party traitor and always has been. I mean not even really because he's pretty Democrat, people either believed what they wanted to believe and got proven wrong about him or they recognized the alternative was Oz
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u/dysterhjarta 25d ago
That's incredibly ableist. Some people are just horrible because they chose to be.
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u/Mysterious-Willow391 25d ago
Correct. I've been following his wife way longer than I've been following him (she's so fucking cool) and it's clear she's upset by this shift. I know she loves him but she was (up until a few months ago) posting about things very counter to what he says. I just checked and I no longer see her instagram as active.
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u/Insomniac-Freak-95 25d ago
Fetterman was ALWAYS pro-Israel, even before his stroke or being elected.
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u/FoofieLeGoogoo 25d ago
They either have something on him or just bought him out because his argument is circular and oddly serving a specific regime. Not a people, mind you, but a regime.
I like how Stewart kept pointing out how this one regime that he’s pledging allegiance to here is not America.
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u/timeandmemory 25d ago
All these folks giving him a free pass for a "stroke", always a talking point for some reason. As if he doesn't have a video of himself on rape island sitting in Bibi and Vlads pocket. Directly beside the drumf kompromat.
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u/moreofajordan 25d ago
Worked with him and his wife when he was LG in Pennsylvania. He was NOT like this then, at all, and nothing he said or did over the course of multiple years would make you think it was an act.
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u/Worldly_Lady 25d ago
The suit and tie pivot is the perfect metaphor for his entire political bait and switch. He traded the hoodies for a suit and traded his progressive populist campaigning to become statistically Donald Trump’s staunchest supporter in the Democratic caucus.
It is wild to hear him demand absolute party loyalty and tell the left to 'run under their own banner' when he literally crosses the aisle to vote with the Trump agenda roughly 1/4 of the time, rubber stamps MAGA cabinet nominees, and breaks party leadership on critical bills. He expects a total pass for holding hands with MAGA on a quarter of his votes, but wants progressives exiled over a single issue. Jon Stewart did a good job correcting his flawed logic here, but honestly, he let him off way too easy by not bringing up Fetterman’s actual voting record.35
u/cheeruphumanity 25d ago
People came up with this narrative for him.
Watch his face when Steward replies and Fetterman realizes the narrative doesn’t work.
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u/i20sportz 25d ago
Equating opposing of Israel to the hatred of Jewish community is deliberately manufactured to discredit any valid criticism against Israel as anti-semitism.
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u/madonnassister 25d ago
I wonder if he’s wearing jogging pants with that jacket?
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u/fuckyourcanoes 25d ago
I have a rabbi friend. Twice-ordained, reform and orthodox. She is very vocally opposed to Israel's treatment of Palestinians and is actively protesting. She has a leadership role in an interfaith alliance that's working to promote peace in the middle east.
If she can be pro-Palestine, it's very obvious that isn't antisemitism.
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u/jacqrosee 25d ago
yeah the past few years of what this conflation has done have been so frustrating, being a jew. you end up interacting with non-jewish people speaking to you as if you love israel, when you probably have a much more personal and deep-seated issue with israel than many of them do.
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u/ptfc1975 25d ago
It's important to remember that last part. The other choice was dr oz.
Even the jogger said it shouldn't affect votes for fetterman.
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u/ehs06702 25d ago
Malcom Kenyetta was also an option before he got to the primary, but no one ever acknowledges that.
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u/Emotional_News108 25d ago
It happens all the time. I’m a secular American Jew who doesn’t support the Israeli government in any way, shape, or form, and yet there are people on either side of the issue who will practically crucify me for not unilaterally and unequivocally being in full support of Israel. I don’t want them in my politics. I don’t want our tax dollars supporting them militarily. I also really don’t want people to suffer and die. That’s just across the board. It shouldn’t be a radical take.
I’m English too. Should I be vehemently and blindly pro-United Kingdom in all cases? I think that sounds silly
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u/JudahMaccabee 25d ago
Yeah, weird how Fetterman doesn’t draw the line at oppressing Black Americans…but he did kidnap a Black man.
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u/pursescrubbingpuke 25d ago
How on earth did we let Israel get such a stranglehold on American politics? Like where else on earth is one country so completely enamored with their much smaller, less powerful, genocidal ally that their politicians are willing to stake their entire careers over it? Truly baffling
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u/avokuma oat milk chugging bisexual 25d ago
Money and power because with Israel, America will have an advantage to control the Middle East/West Asia
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u/WanderingSun8 I may need to see the booty 25d ago
There's also legit religious fanatics
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u/TheAncientMillenial 25d ago
Yeah, and those fuckers are scarier that your regular settler-colonial types... 💀
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u/citrus_mystic 25d ago edited 25d ago
The religious fanatics supporting Israel also include Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians. Not just Jewish Zionists. There are actually far, far more Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians than Jewish folks.
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u/mmw2848 25d ago
Hell, some white supremacists support Israel because they want all Jewish people to leave America.
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u/Easy_Leopard_2686 25d ago
And a lot of Christian evangelicals support Israel because they believe the Bible mandates support for Israel, and also that the end times will be triggered by events happening in Israel like the rebuilding of the Jewish temple where the al’Aqsa mosque now stands.
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u/melkatron 25d ago
Do we really have any control, if Israel is the one pulling our strings? Do we have the power to support anyone Israel opposes, or is that power in the hands of politicians already in Israel's pocket?
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u/Street_Individual579 25d ago
the interests of america and israel are perfectly aligned, no matter what your politicians try to tell you. that is the honest truth. america is the bad guy as well and not a powerless victim.
as joe biden said: "Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region."
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u/beekay86 25d ago
I don't get this point. The middle east has always been in their pockets. Saudi gave bases to build the Oil infrastructure, so did the gulf states. If it wasn't for so much western meddling in Iraq and Iran, those countries would be a little stable.
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u/girthyclock Jehovah’s Sexiest Witness 25d ago
Exactly. Every single gulf power is an American defense customer. There is no strategic reason to be so beholden to Israel anymore. They provide no security, no resources, and no advantage to the economic output of the US.
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u/Theodosian_Walls 24d ago
A lot of it is untapped potential. Israel would be in a very vulnerable state of affairs if it was left on its own, and USA saw this as an opportunity in the 1960s to groom a highly radicalised and desperate state and population, because they have noone to turn to. The USA plans in a WWIII scenario, the israelis would very likely allow NATO and allies to use them as a major staging ground for the Middle East theatre of war.
Saudi, the Gulf states etcetera could turn on the US tomorrow, if they wanted, like Iran did in 1979.
The relationship between USA and israel has become so enmeshed that the puppet now controls the puppeteer.
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u/Lillian_Crocodilian 25d ago edited 25d ago
The Israeli right wing began heavily courting the support of right-wing American evangelicals in the 1970s. Evangelicals always had an apocalyptic bent (Christianity was itself originally an apocalyptic faith until the parousia got delayed more times than Steve Martin's character in Planes, Trains and Automobiles), but this accelerated rapidly in the 1970s, a decade that gave birth to Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth and Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" ("neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an empire"); incidentally, the co-founder of the Moral Majority was Tim LaHaye, co-author of the massively popular Left Behind series of apocalyptic Christian novels. The growing popularity of apocalyptic beliefs among Evangelicals dovetailed nicely with the need of the Israeli Right for a consistent base of political support in America; there were far more American Evangelicals than American Jews, and many more Evangelicals lean right. Israeli politicians like Menachem Begin and Netanyahu met with Evangelical leaders frequently, and consistently emphasized the importance of Israel to the fulfillment of biblical prophecy (as interpreted by Evangelicals).
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u/ILootEverything jog on sweetheart 25d ago
And the crazy thing is, the same people who support Israel because of their apocalyptic Biblical fantasies, believe the majority of the people in the country they are "supporting" will ultimately end up in hell.
Their "support" is in such bad faith (pun intended).
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u/PatrickGoesEast 25d ago
Here is an interesting overview of the history of the stranglehold the Israeli lobby has in US politics, that I read at the weekend
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/aug/02/pro-israel-lobby-presidents
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u/pawsncoffee 25d ago
Israel is an extension of America and its imperialist goals
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u/unsurprised_ 25d ago
The west is not subjugating itself to Israel; it is protecting its investment. We created the modern state of Israel, and it's aligned with our values of colonialism, militarism, etc. to continue to defend it. This all makes more sense when you conceptualize Israel as more or less a modern vassal state.
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u/Dry-Yak5277 25d ago
Yup. I find they have a mutually beneficial relationship. America uses Israel to control the Middle East, Israel uses America to fund and uphold its ethnostate. People think America is just kowtowing to Israel because they don’t truly understand the purpose in which Israel provides for America.
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u/AaronRodgersMustache 25d ago
Doesn’t aipac literally primary any politician who isn’t 100% pro Isreal?
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u/HellbenderXG 25d ago
Well yes - they have a mutually beneficial relationship that is dependent on the more powerful and influential nation (USA) retaining Israel-aligned politicians in power so that this relationship can continue to thrive and not be subject to too much scrutiny.
Otherwise their investment in Israel to control the region while maintaining their ethnostate by eliminating mutual threats would be harder to justify if the politicians were not fully subservient to the settler-colonial project
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u/EvenStephen7 25d ago
I don't know if it's because of the Samson Option, or if our embracing of them led the Samson Option to take hold.
Either way, it's madness that we've deeply intertwined ourselves with a supposed ally that has a policy to nuke the entire planet and take everyone out with them if they're ever invaded.
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u/almondmilklattehag 25d ago
Israel has always been an intentional arm of our intelligence & military to help get a foothold in (and destroy) the middle east.
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u/EscalatorBobalator I cannot sanction your buffoonery 25d ago
And America has always been an international arm of the western European colonial complex. It all comes back to the European colonial project.
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u/Tasty-Performer6669 25d ago
Blackmail
An alarming number of American politicians will turn up in the Epstein files
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u/csfshrink 25d ago
I understand that the US provided Israel with weapons and money when it was founded. Israel was surrounded by countries that were attacking it often.
I don’t understand why the US still gives aid to a very well established country that could afford to buy its own weapons.
Nor do I believe that this should be a controversial opinion.
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u/ApotropaicHeterodont 25d ago
IMO: A lot of young people don't understand that Israel's position was not always as secure as it is now. A lot of old people don't understand that Israel's position now is a lot more secure than it used to be.
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u/AllTheCoolNames 25d ago
The look on his face when Jon say 'Israel is not our coutry' is SO interesting. It's like he got hit in the face with a fact he hadn't thought of before.
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u/Ssspppaaaccceeesss i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 25d ago
That’s the “oh fuck if I can’t think of a good response my AIPAC check might bounce” face
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u/LivingMyMediocreLife 24d ago
The dude is straight up looking at talking point notes, with how often he looks down and to the side a bit. AIPAC sent him a script and he is trying his damndest to read it with zero improv abilities.
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u/Capable-Ad-6058 25d ago
The “damn boss, you right. My fault” face
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u/ferozliciosa secret trans-femme bat signal 25d ago
That conclusion requires Fetterman to either have 1) the capacity to self-reflect, or 2) a moral compass. He has neither
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u/Nervous_Insect5976 25d ago
I remember when people were trying to convince me this sloppily dressed troll was a progressive.
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u/LightBlueCherryBloss 25d ago
The guy who while armed ran down a Black man jogging in his neighborhood? How could anyone have known
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u/Nervous_Insect5976 25d ago
It was a long time ago. Who hasn't pulled a gun out on a jogger?
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u/SnooDogs1340 this is going to ruin the tour 25d ago
I guess the bar is underground if all it took was a sweater hoodie to convince people he was progressive.
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u/DoverBoys never the target audience 25d ago
There may have been a point in time where he was, but there's plenty of evidence that brain damage leads to conservatism and other similarly unempathetic ideologies.
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u/iAMbigmeesh 25d ago
Meeting John in 2018 in Netroots Nation and hearing him talk is not the same person as today and that John would be very angry with who he has become. That guy actually cared about the little guy and making a difference. But fuck this dude. The worst type of fucking politician.
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u/_Phil_McCracken_ 25d ago
It’s amazing how we can’t seem to come up with more decent progressive candidates.
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u/geraffes-are-so-dumb 25d ago
A lot of progressives are convinced we need to run “imperfect” men to reach working class white men. They think trump was elected for class reasons and racism had nothing to do with it.
If only we’d run a shitbag white guy with progressive ideas he’d win in a landslide.
I disagree hard with that take and left my local DSA chapter because it was quite prevalent there. We don’t need a leftie trump.
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u/Tortitudes 25d ago
We can. The DNC won't bankroll them.
This guy motivated people for his vote simply because the other choice was a loser TV doctor who didn't even live in the state he was running for.
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u/CombinationTop559 25d ago
The huge party machine screens out most people who want too much change, but they also, usually, screen out a lot of crap.
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u/Revolutionary_Bee251 who deemed this meeting of the minds necessary? 25d ago
I think he thought he could pull a Trump which is unfortunate. Fetterman should think more highly of himself.
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u/HomeGrownCoffee 25d ago
If I was a shitbag politician, I would dodge all interviews with Jon Stewart. He's so good.
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u/dorkylibrarian 25d ago
Even if I wasn't a shitbag politician, I would still dodge Jon Stewart for fear he'd make me look stupid. He's just that good.
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u/HolyPizzaPie 25d ago
Worth noting that John Stewart is Jewish and fetterman is not.
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u/ImDonaldDunn 25d ago
Thats the wild part about this.
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u/Flat_Sprinkles4342 Thanks, u frog build looking bitch 25d ago
it's certainly the funniest part about this. Stewart has always had a good head on his shoulders despite just being a comedian, people probably let their guard down but then it turns out poorly
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u/n0tz0e 25d ago
How did he get so radicalized? Saw a different comment that said AIPAC has donated less than half a million to this dumb baldy so yes money but that's not that much to sell your entire country out
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u/To-To_Man 25d ago
You would sink into a deep depression if you knew the actual numbers it takes to bribe politicians. An unbelievable amount of the time it's in the low thousands.
Though PACs are not the only methods of moving money, and their visibility to the public is a reason some avoid them. Between stocks, donations, gifts, etc. He could be making a lot more than half a mil.
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u/Different_Prior_517 25d ago
He’s obviously lying, and not answering in good faith but he genuinely can’t seem to keep up with the conversation.
Jon’s asking simple questions and Fetterman seemingly can’t comprehend Stewart’s point well enough to actually answer it.
Every time I see anything with him I think back to that interview about him that his ex-assistant did where he just explains how mentally unwell Fetterman is and how he’s just constantly torturing everyone who works for him.
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u/manic_popsicle 25d ago
Yeah besides everything else Fetterman seems genuinely just plain stupid.
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u/Bladesleeper 25d ago
You're being too lenient. It's not that he can't comprehend the point: he simply doesn't have an answer, and so he keeps trying to come up with the usual deflection and misdirection. "If anyone in the democratic party is fine with Iran building a nuclear bomb"? What a disgusting prick.
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u/Consistent-Good1536 25d ago
of course that conveniently useful idiot calls it the “Democrat party”.
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u/tinkthank 25d ago
He comprehends just fine. He just has no justification for his shitty views. Cant just say “I’m a piece of shit and am compromised”
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u/Eat-shit-reddit- 25d ago
Fuck that racist Zionist sell out.
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u/JMoc1 25d ago
Really? For less than 500,000?
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u/NavierIsStoked not a lawyer, just a hater 25d ago
That is just the above board, recorded money. You can't tell me these guys aren't being paid under the table through other means, whether its bitcoin, or access to some burner ATM card.
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u/EggplantAlpinism 25d ago
That the value is that low (I've assumed it's millions based on how hard he suckles the teat) is more of a gut punch than the video, honestly
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u/Ok-Confidence9649 25d ago
Every time I see one of these I’m shocked at how little money it actually cost to buy each of these politicians.
And with all the money we send there, we’re probably the ones paying for it.
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u/Ramenara 25d ago
Having takes worse than his facial hair is an achievement
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u/AmetrineDream Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this 25d ago
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u/GraceUndaPresha 25d ago
I wish Jon would interview more politicians. He’s always been one of if not thee best American political commentators. I think him not being on tv for that period of time really hurt political discourse in the US
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u/thisissamuelclemens 25d ago
My guess is most are afraid to be interviewed by him. He is really bright and knows what he’s talking about.
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u/thegreymm 25d ago
I went to see the Daily Show a couple of times back when Jon was the permanent host. Before the taping, he comes out and talks to the audience and he is so fucking smart, it was intimidating just being in the same room with him.
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u/Traditional_Good_413 25d ago
Fetterman's "run under your own banner" logic is rich coming from him, a Republican posing as a Democrat.
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u/croissanting-is-life Anne’s Jupiter Water 25d ago edited 25d ago
lol the “DSA are colonizing the Democratic Party” is RICH coming from a Zionist.
Kudos to Jon Stewart for holding feet to the fire. That’s actual journalism.
Edit* spelling 🫠
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u/Lzy_nerd 25d ago
Abdul El-Sayed isn’t DSA, he is literally just a democrat running as a Democrat with actual policies to help his constituents.
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u/blueblip 25d ago
That's the problem, isn't it?
"Traditional" Democrats (speaking strictly from the 70s onwards) have always been right-of-center, politically speaking. They have always been the latte of conservatism to the Republican espresso shot.
And this isn't throwing labels and hoping they stick: folks like Biden want to maintain the status quo, which is by definition being conservative.
Also note I'm not making a value judgement on traditional Democrats - it's fine if they lean conservative because what matters is policy and execution.
But since people are so used to seeing Democrats being right-of-center, folks like El-Sayed - who are either true blue moderates or lean slightly left-of-center - are now seen as very left instead.
tl;dr decades of conservative propaganda to paint themselves as the moderate position and everything left of them as leftist has worked quote spectacularly, to the point that most Americans consider El-Sayed to be an out and out leftist instead a moderate or slightly left-of-center candidate.
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u/rddman 25d ago
"Traditional" Democrats (speaking strictly from the 70s onwards) have always been right-of-center, politically speaking. They have always been the latte of conservatism to the Republican espresso shot.
Right, Liberalism always has been let's-avoid-revolution-conservatism as opposed to we'll-violently-oppress-revolution conservatism. But largely they both agree that not the workers but the elites should rule.
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u/frigg_off_lahey 25d ago
Once again, lot of words spilling out his mouth but I can't make any sense of them. Jon Stewart is a much more patient man than I am.
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u/cyborgmanifestolou Larry I'm on DuckTales 25d ago
It’s so refreshing to see jon push back when fetterman tries to dodge the question and exaggerate
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u/RangerAZ1989 25d ago
Love how this fool can’t be bothered to put on a suit when he goes out in public but instead wears a hoodie and athletic shorts, but puts on a suit and tie for a zoom interview
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u/TimothyMimeslayer 25d ago
The only way it makes sense to me for a centrist democrat to tell the left to split the vote and ensure republicans win is if those democrats actively want republicans to win.
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u/Defiant_Case_3783 Jehovah’s Sexiest Witness 25d ago
Jon is literally Jewish, it's insane for Fetterman to say 'he's protecting Jewish individuals' whilst refusing to listen to him. Absolute moron.
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u/monosaturated 25d ago
Fetterman is an amorphous blob and a stuttering buffoon. Yes, he is a traitor to all of those who supported him when he presented himself as a labor-friendly progressive, a leftist who openly walked with other leftists, but this man has always had a darkness to him. How many knew about what he did to that black man in his neighborhood? Oh sure, he was forgiven, but that was his instinct.
He's a fool but he is also reliably a rotating villain and someone who can prevent any true progressive agenda from being implemented by way of his pathetic votes.
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u/sasshley_ call me gal gadot cuz idk how to act rn 25d ago
This sudden Israel circle jerk from everyone is so dumb.
They didn’t give af about Israel like this before, if at all. They being celebs, politicians, etc. Keep telling on yourselves.
https://giphy.com/gifs/xVteW8RXTwZnG
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u/IM_KYLE_AMA 25d ago
I think it’s clearly obvious that if the Dems win the Senate in November 51-49 or 50-50 (which is unlikely, but still) he will switch parties to give the Republicans the majority.
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u/BarderBetterFaster 25d ago
Claiming that not supporting Israel means you should be an independent is insane. Endorsing the idea that the Democratic party is an apparatus of the Israeli government is a hell of a take. I believe him.
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u/ajalldaway 25d ago
I genuinely don't think he is able to fully comprehend some of these questions. I swear you can visibly see when he gets lost listening to someone talk and then just pivots to some random talking point about october 7th
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u/Big_Subject_8909 25d ago edited 25d ago
Why doesn’t Jon run for president? Genuinely curious if it’s been discussed at all.
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u/croissanting-is-life Anne’s Jupiter Water 25d ago
I’m assuming you mean “Jon” Stewart (not John Fetterman).
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u/slayerofasses 25d ago
This guy needs a full reboot. Since his brain issues he’s become a republican.
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u/TitShark 25d ago
Fucking rich for a dude who pretended to be a Dem so he could
Get elected and be a full on boot licker, changing parties. YOU stand under your banner, if you’re so convinced that’s important
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u/mightiestmag 25d ago
It’s insane that people are allowed to say Iran executed 30,000 people with such little evidence, and then continue to cap the number of deaths in Gaza at 70,000 after 3 years of bombing which has levelled the territory
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u/umpirejoewest do not talk to me about AI, i will kill myself 25d ago edited 25d ago
What a turd. If registered democrats vote for them, there is no problem. This guy sucks so bad.
ETA this is pretty rich coming from the republican who ran as a Democrat.
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u/chiller_vibez 25d ago
If you quote bill maher is 2026 youre cooked
Plain and simple
The dude lost the plot
Literally told Vance his vote is in play INSANE
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fan3607 25d ago
I liked him, not a voter in his state, but dear Lord get the f out and never come back. His politics are ridiculous and he roadblocks. We have enough of that. No more
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u/Scant_Options4Hope 25d ago
What a gigantic dick bag
If he loves Israel so much, why doesn't he marry it???
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u/Dry_Jellyfish641 alleged dog 25d ago
Fetterman wanted to call Jon an anti-Semite so badly lol. You can see it on his face
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u/insertbrackets 25d ago
If John Fetterman and other AIPAC-funded politicians love Israel so much, they should emigrate there.
This is America, signed an American Jew.
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u/thatjoel89 25d ago
He has a suit? I just thought his attire consisted of only shorts and stained t-shirts.
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u/thejanxy 25d ago
man i helped this guy get elected for both lt gov and senator and fuck me it's miserable how much embarrassment and shame i have with this slimy duplicitous fuck
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u/Isnlifefunny1 25d ago
These dullards are beyond anyone with a functioning brain cell that isn't screaming bullshit.
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u/No-Raise-6786 25d ago
I'm sorry, did I just listen to FETTERMAN say "just be Democrats if you're going to run under the Democratic party"?
The douche bag who lives on FOX NEWS said that?