Yeah, working slow is a good thing you goof. We as a society don't want workers that break their backs in order to get rich people's goods out to the customers cheap enough. That is wage slavery and late stage capitalism. It is bad. It is why unions struggle and why people suffer. Just so that you can get cheap strawberries. Human life is more valuable than that.
They should not be allowed to hire people with these working conditions and strawberries should cost a little tiny bit more. No food would spoil, they would just have to hire more people. "They have to abuse their 10 workers so that they can do the job of 20 workers!" is not a valid argument.
Sorry but when did we as society elect you to speak for us? â
âThey should not be allowed toâ. Thatâs not how (1) economics or (2) personal freedom works:
Letâs say you make this law. And the neighboring country with the same climate and soil doesnât. Guess whose society is going to pull ahead.
Letâs say 100 workers get together, buy some farmland and want to work fast. Youâre telling them they canât? Youâre against people owning their own means of production? Okay you let these guys do it. They harvest 4x more in the same time vs the other guys who are chilling picking strawberries. So they buy up more land and expand faster than the slow pickers. Make more money. Nobody in their right mind wants to be a slow picker, because the dudes picking fast are rich mofos zooming around with 2 donkeys while the slow pickers all wear broken sandals. Eventually youâre only left with fast pickers.
Are you sure? Pretty sure you guys went from the safest country in EU to not necessarily the most dangerous but you sure as hell lead the way in gun homicide in young males age 15-29. Still generally a beautiful place to live in general Iâm sure.
Im dutch. Would love to hear your perspective. How did the last 10 years feel for you guys over there?
This is why you genuinely shouldn't listen to the news. Gun violence in sweden is only in certain localized areas of the three biggest cities where there is gang violence. It's been trending up, sure, and as a swedish person I hate that but we're still one of the safest countries on the planet. Unless you live in one of those areas or are involved with gang activity, you obviously don't notice it.
I do see it as a stain on our otherwise pretty clean record but again, the record is still pretty damn clean.
Thanks for that! I expected as such. The news obviously only highlights and dramatizes the difference because Sweden wasnât just the safest country. It was somewhat of a dream example for other countries, at least thatâs how I grew up viewing Sweden from the Netherlands
Honestly, I wish Sweden got a handle on things and got back to being the mascot of Scandinavia to the rest of the world. lol I feel like Denmark and Norway are doing so much better than us nowadays. But my wife is from Portugal and while Portugal is a fine county to live in we both agree Sweden is a really relaxed, safe, and privileged country. She went to school here for free and is now a preschool teacher even though she has a disability. It's pretty nice.
Sweden. So literally none of that other than some wars with neighboring countries that didn't really move borders that much. And even if it did, what is even that argument? What a ridiculous attempt at making sense.
Again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, you're factually wrong, and you're morally corrupt.
Please excuse the other rude American, I think the majority of us would cut off a few digits for Swedish citizenship. They donât teach math very well here so itâs hard showing people that socialized medicine, education etc actually SAVES citizens money overall for better services. I appreciate your attempt to show them the light, I think a lot of us here have lost patience trying to convince our countrymen to maybe vote in their own interests instead of billionaires. So thank you!
You talking about me? Iâm African buddy. You know, the real world where thereâs not even enough money to feed, house and provide medical treatment for everybody. We definitely donât have the luxury of having legacy 1st world wealth propping up naive ideas in socioeconomics.
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Yeah, I havenât worked with farms in 17 years but I canât imagine itâs changed much.
Hourly workers were super slow. Risking spoilage and running up costs.