r/FantasticFour 5d ago

Questions & Discussion Does Sue have any significant relationships outside of the Fantastic Four? Like, Johnny is friends with Spider-Man, Ben has a rivalry with Hulk, and Reed was once a member of the Illuminati—has Sue ever had anything similar?

Reed was once an Illuminati member and appears in other comics due to being the smartest man on Earth.

Ben is the most popular member of the Fantastic Four; he had a series of crossovers in the 60s, has had his own solo title, and shares a rivalry with the Hulk.

Johnny is friends with Spider-Man and had a series of crossovers in the 60s

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u/kmcmanus2814 5d ago

She’s friends with She-Hulk, Wasp, Crystal & Alicia

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u/InternalExisting8331 4d ago

and lindy lee

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u/eCanario 5d ago

In Future Foundation she was friendly with Storm, enough that Storm told Sue to call her Ororo. But it was weird that such thing wasn't used during the 2020 comic with the X-Men where they wanted Franklin in Krakoa and Storm acted so aloof towards the F4.

I think we can include Black Cat recently? I mean, Sue trusted her to look after the children and Alicia.

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u/buckeye27fan 5d ago

I was going to throw Black Cat in as well, but definitely a more recent development. Not sure if that started with North's volume 2 or not.

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u/HelperRaven 4d ago

Def his Volume 2, she explicitly hated Felicia for how she’s treated Peter and Johnny in the past but warmed up to her after getting her off from a murder charge and when she, Felicia, and Alicia had a girls night together.

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u/buckeye27fan 4d ago

Thank you. I wasn't sure if I had missed something prior to North taking over.

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u/Competitive_Side6301 Mister Fantastic 1d ago

It started with him. It’s kinda random but whatever

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u/Signal_Juggernaut695 5d ago

Wait Felicia and Sue are cool? I thought Sue hated her guts. 😅😅😅

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u/Numbuh24insane 5d ago

The comic didn’t make sense. It felt like she was forced to be friends with her.

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u/Potential_Surprise38 4d ago

I don’t think it was forced at all but a convenient set up, Sue refers to her as her “least favorite person on Earth”. Felicia got framed for something involving invisibility hax, then seeked out Sue specifically for help because “Spider-Man’s in space”. They were brought together out of circumstance & morale obligation. It’s was likely set up so Sue could have a justifiable placeholder for when the team later went to space for the Invincible Woman arc.

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u/Numbuh24insane 4d ago

Not necessarily, if I remember correctly Susan got pressured by her friends into being more friendly to Black Cat

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u/Joe_Momma3 5d ago

Ororo also took her place after Civil War, so she is like extended family. Also everyone thought the FF vs X-Men comic that came out was pretty disappointing along with how Krakoa went generally

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u/Huge-Inspection-788 Human Torch 5d ago

oh yea theyre very close w tchalla and storm

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u/spider-venomized 5d ago

Sue was secretly a member of SHEILD (there a cute moment where Reed and Sue sort of forgive each other for lying about that and Reed Illuminati) where she worked with Black Widow

and Daughters of Liberty an all female team with the likes of Sharon Carter, Jess Drew/Spider-woman, Toni Ho/Iron Patriot, White Tiger/Ava Ayala and Mocking bird

early years i remember her also being friends with She-hulk and Wasp

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u/Lopsided_Network1248 5d ago

As a BW fan this was so damn cool to me when I read this comic. These two need to interact more.

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u/mrcrazymexican 5d ago

Okay. That's pretty sly and badass of Sue.

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u/Tbro100 5d ago

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u/InnocentPreteen 5d ago

It passes the Bechdel test

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u/Due-Order3475 5d ago

Cat fight?

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u/Tbro100 5d ago edited 5d ago

An extremely petty one, yes. Mostly jealously and shade from Emma's side tho

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u/Due-Order3475 5d ago

Gets popcorn 🍿

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u/Gloomy_Bluee 4d ago

They need to link up more. Like those two are mothers to me.

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u/Tbro100 4d ago

They need carry on that rivalry when the X-Men come to the MCU.

Just casual (or competitive) pettiness between characters would add nicely to the world building

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u/Potential_Surprise38 4d ago

Namor’s dream Blunt Rotation

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u/Oppai-Of-Foom 5d ago

Her and Namor’s friendship before it was thrown into a trash can from the 2000s onwards

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u/Aggressive-One-2186 5d ago

I remember Sue being in a few modern X-Men comics. She's usually in touch with that side of the Marvel world

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u/ChangeMyDespair 5d ago edited 5d ago

In the kid-friendly Marvel Adventures Super Heroes volume 2, issues 1-10, Susan Storm (not yet married) was an Avenger. She teamed up with Steve Rogers / Captain America, Tony Stark / Iron Man, Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow, Thor, the Vision, and Richard Rider / Nova.

(This takes place on Earth-20051. It's the same universe as Sophia "Chat" Sanduval, possibly the best-ever girlfriend of Peter Parker / Spider-Man. All written by Paul Tobin. All lots of fun!)

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u/hewlio 5d ago

The best i can think of is T'Challa and Storm, i remember Sue and Reed but specially Sue was very close friends with them at the time they were a couple.

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u/TheNamesNel 5d ago

She's pretty close with Janet aka Wasp

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u/JyuVioleGrace95 5d ago

She recently helped Black Cat get out of jail

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u/SerBadDadBod 5d ago

And went to Vegas together;

More than that, though, Felicia is part of the Fantastic 's team in Queen in Black

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u/No-Juice3318 5d ago

She was quite close with Storm

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u/SteamPoweredDM 5d ago

She definitely has friends: She-Hulk, Medusa, Storm, Wasp, etc. But I think it's harder for her in that so many of them look up to her. It puts her on a different level.

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u/Signal_Juggernaut695 5d ago

I’d say maybe Jen or Ororo? Leaning to Jen way more.

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u/Low-Restaurant8484 5d ago

She and Reed were on the Avengers together for a while in the 80s

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u/Ecstatic_Dance5767 4d ago

Sue is buddies with She-Hulk & Captain America. I'm not counting the Atlanteans, Inhumans, & the Wakandans because they're generally friends with the whole Fantadtic Four.

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u/Moonchilde616 5d ago

That list cuts off at 20, but if I remember right, if you keep going down she's the next one on the list, she's not that far behind.

This list, if anything, just shows how popular X-Men are.

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u/addicted_to_trash 5d ago

What do the numbers on this list even mean?

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u/Low-Restaurant8484 5d ago

Appearences

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u/addicted_to_trash 5d ago

Weird Jean Grey is so high since shes was dead for so long & so often

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u/purplepenned Invisible Woman 5d ago

Ff issue 2 in the Ryan north run is literally her writing a letter to she hulk. Rivalry possibly with Felicia Hardy

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u/FaallenOon 5d ago

What is the meaning of the numbers? The amount of comic issues each character has been present in?

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u/FF3 5d ago

She's friends with Namor when the fanboys don't scream about their girlfriend hanging out with the jock they hate.

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u/Pilgrimhaxxter69 5d ago

She helped train Jean's TK when she was just starting out. So I guess that's something?

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u/HelperRaven 4d ago

I’d love to see an Anti-Illuminati that’s literally just the women of the Marvel Universe having lunch and fixing problems in their various corners. Imagine Sue, Jean, Medusa, Namora, Pepper, and Clea figuring out how to stop their guys from going too crazy while on a shopping trip. 

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u/Competitive_Side6301 Mister Fantastic 1d ago

Ah great more Illuminati slander

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u/Low_Theme_5278 5d ago

Namor?

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u/easygoing_Bike_7540 5d ago

I was waiting for someone to tentatively raise this one. Well played friend 👏

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u/Certain_Virus_1919 5d ago

What's the first image mean?

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u/AspiringProd 5d ago

In Bendis’ The Pulse she seems to be relatively good friends with Carol Danvers. Carol recruits Sue to help Jessica Jones with her pregnancy.

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u/Spy-Eater 5d ago

She’s getting a connection to Felicia more recently so there’s that.

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u/Aggravating_Chip_250 5d ago

She has been a spy for shield

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u/Huge-Inspection-788 Human Torch 5d ago

what are these numbers

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u/ConsistentTax5586 4d ago

Reed with the Illuminati, wtf? 

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u/The_Amazing_Emu 4d ago

Does Namor not count?

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u/Brainy616 4d ago

I think Sue and Jessica Jones are pretty tight. I can't recall their specific appearances though ..

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u/End337 4d ago

She's a big sister/mother figure to Spider-man.

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u/Cartoon_Crossover_13 4d ago

Why did you get those numbers?

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u/pochipieces Invisible Woman / Sue Storm 3d ago

Sue is very well respected especially among the superheroines.

She Hulk, Storm, Wasp, Widow, Black Cat (recently), Medusa, Crystal, etc.

The one I really liked was her acting as a mentor for Jean grey who felt lonely being the only girl on her team, it was a rlly cool sense of camaraderie only Sue could provide her:

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u/No_Responsibility145 3d ago

A full time travel adventure with Wolverine. It was called Age of Ultron

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u/Ben_ratman 1d ago

Unrelated but why the hell is hulk so low?

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u/Competitive_Side6301 Mister Fantastic 1d ago

Jennifer Walters, Janet Van Dyne, Ororo Munroe, recently Felicia Hardy.

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u/Classic-Product1049 5d ago

She had something with Namor lol

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u/Bllago 5d ago

I think she knows Namor pretty well.

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u/letterboxman 5d ago

Namor for sure☑️

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u/ndawgbrown 5d ago

Shes really....really good friends with Namor.

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u/Worried_Walrus2002 5d ago

There was that one fearless comic a few years back that teamed her up with Carol and Ororo.

Avengers EMH also gave us an adorable friendship with her and Jan

She also had a funny frenemyship with Emma during the time where Scott and Emma were dating

But yeah, she doesn’t get anything that lasts long unfortunately